17 thoughts on “Duncan Keith Named Norris Trophy Finalist

  • April 28, 2014 at 10:57 am

    I get that the Predators are working there way to becoming a better team which impacts both their offense and defense…but should a Norris Trophy finalist be a -2? Weber contributed 56 points this year which was the most for a d-man in the regular season, but that minus number really stands out. I also had no idea he is “only” 28.

    Can we go back to how in the last lockout the years and value was something the owners had to put in to “stop” themselves. I believe the NYR were a player for Weber, Philly signed him to the crazy offer sheet (with the killer signing bonus)…He is a good player, but that contract is an obvious handcuff…14 years 110 million total with an AAV of 7.857 million. The actual outlay is worse than the AAV.

  • April 28, 2014 at 11:44 am

    Another great season for Keith…very deserving and a great honour to be in the top 3 as their are a lot of great NHL DMen…but Weber is your winner…he had an absolute monster season for NAS…he’s the best DMan in hockey…as others suggested, yesterday Keith had probably the best DMan performance all season long. Plus Keith is such a great competitor, he fights every puck battle like it will be his last…great player!

  • April 28, 2014 at 2:04 pm

    Sr. Brad — I agree with Peter concerning Weber’s “-2”. If Keith doesn’t win it’s fixed (or the usual *East* bias wins out).

    GP G A PTS +/- PIM
    Keith 79 6 55 61 22 28
    Chara 77 17 23 41 25 66
    Weber 79 23 33 56 -2 52

  • April 28, 2014 at 2:10 pm

    Dickie, Peter, I hope you are right, but just from the games I watched, no DMan was able to do what Weber did…he’s just at another level from even Chara and Keith.

  • April 28, 2014 at 3:52 pm

    I really feel like its Keith’s to lose, he hand another amazing season and has been a league leader in assists all season. I think its really between Chara and Keith, hopefully Dunks gets it again! Go Hawks!

  • April 28, 2014 at 6:36 pm

    ….Yeh, Weber lead his team to a great season, just missing the wild card by 3 points…

  • April 28, 2014 at 7:34 pm

    Peter, Weber was actually tied for third (Byfuglien) in scoring for defensemen with 56 behind Karlsson’s 74, and Keith’s 61 points respectively.

    Weber being a -2 isn’t really a reflection of him and his defense, then man is a beast and his -2 is not only because of the competition he himself faced on a nightly basis, but the lack of defensive help he got along with Carter Hutton being the #1 goalie most of the season. While I like Hutton a lot, he’s no healthy Pekka Rinne just yet… Weber also doesn’t have the same forward help that Keith and Chara have. Hawks and Bruins would be ok without Keith and Chara, I don’t think Nashville would be close to where they are without Weber, but that’s just my opinion.

    I definitely think it could be a toss up between Keith and Weber as to who wins this year with Chara coming in third.

  • April 29, 2014 at 6:56 am

    Matt, thanks for the correction. I agree completely with what you are saying about the +/- and the team around him…it just “looks” bad. One argument that I have heard against Keith is that sometimes Oduya and Hammer take the other team’s best offensive threat putting Keith up against weaker offensive players. While this does not happen exclusively throughout the games, there is some truth to that. However, I do not think Q is protecting Keith and Seabs so much as what a luxury to have two # 1 pairs. This may give Keith more offensive opportunity, but I rarely feel his defense suffers because of it. I still go with Keith. We will just have to see.

  • April 29, 2014 at 7:13 am

    Sorry for the back to back posts: I watched the Avs/Wild game last night. When the Wild tilt the ice in their favor, they are relentless. Their cycle got going a couple of times and they just had the Avs worn out. I would say that the Avs best players are more skilled (MacKinnon, Duchene, Stastny, Landeskog) than what the Wild have right now. I say that and am thinking man Parise just isn’t a superstar and then he has 2 goals and 2 assists (1 came on an EN). He just keeps going. Is Varlamov just in the Hawks head? He was fine, but gave up a lot of juicy rebounds last night. I thought O’Reilly played a good game and then he ends up -1 (I know this isn’t everything and he was probably on the ice for the EN goals). From what I saw O’Reilly was playing primarily wing and I have always been impressed with him as a center (How crazy was Uncle Feaster’s offer sheet…when O’Reilly would have had to go through waivers…smh). Suter played all right for Minnesota, but I have never considered him a #1. He “only” played 26.41 last night. It just seems Minnesota has little faith in their 3rd pair, like less so that Q has in playing Leddy consistently. What the Wild are doing to Suter now, I really feel will bite them the last 5-6 years of his 13 year deal. The Wild are probably 2 offensively skilled players/2 D-men away from being very good…these players might be on their roster now and just need time to develop…but I doubt it from the d-men side. The Avs are missing a little defense. I think the Hawks can take whichever team comes from this series.

  • April 29, 2014 at 9:15 am

    I’m so happy for Duncan!

  • April 29, 2014 at 9:44 am

    Writer’s columns seem to think Chara is your Norris winner.

    I agree that Weber at -2 is a negative stat but that does not state what he does for his team or the excellent game he plays.

    Kieth (and Seabrook) sometimes take shifts against lower lines to take full advantage of their offense. If that loses him the Norris, so be it. 2 and 7 play a big role in the Hawks offensive scheme. They are fortunate to have a shut down pair behind him.

    Lastly, now I am not sure who I want the Hawks to play next. Hawks have had a lot of problems with the Avs the past couple of years. But, the momentum the Wild would carry into the next round, should they win tomorrow, will be a huge factor.

  • April 29, 2014 at 10:23 am

    I believe Nick Lidstrom won his last Norris ( 3 or 4 yrs ago) with a -1 for the season. This coming playing on a very talented Wings team which is much better than Weber has in Nashville. I could be wrong, he may have been even for the season.

  • April 29, 2014 at 11:39 am

    I hope if Keith doesn’t win it’s Wber that gets it. I can’t stand Chara. Weber can be vicious and has handed out some cheap shots but Chara is constantly getting away with clutching, grabbing, holding you name it. If you looked in the rule book for an interference penalty there would be a picture of Chara right there.

  • April 29, 2014 at 11:43 am

    yes Minny has some good young players. I saw Charlie Coyle play alot in his year in the QMJHL and he was a beast and so dominate in that league and he is showing it at the NHL level too.

  • April 29, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    If Chara wins this year, I will forever be done with this Award, not that anyone would care but, c’mon. This has been Duncs since Jan and he did nothing to lose it to B33 !!
    I know Bz fans who wouldn’t even vote for that immobile beast. He has far too many gaffes.

    Skating should be required too. 33 can barely move. phwa probly relates well i suppose

  • April 30, 2014 at 1:20 am

    To me, it sounds like some of the evidence presented supporting Weber is better suited for argument that he should be MVP. (I really don’t know, over the years, how much consideration is given to “weak team”, “quality of competition”, etc., or how often players in those situations have been selected. Just guessing it would seem that contributing to a successful team is an attention-grabber…shallow/limited thinking, or not?)

    I admit that I see Keith every game and Weber mostly only playing against the Hawks. Given that, except for a few games (especially) after the Olympics break, Keith has maintained a very high level of play – definitely Norris worthy.

  • May 1, 2014 at 8:00 pm

    When asked who should win the Norris Trophy in 2014, NYI legend, D Potvin, while guesting on NHL Radio 5/1 replied, ‘Duncan Keith , ”hands down” the best d-man in the league’. not a shabby endorsement. Unless you are a blueshirt!

    He also said he was surprised that the other 2 were actually finalists, hinting that a minus number meant a lot more than some may feel is appropriate. He referenced the ‘flood gates’ were open when Lidstrom was a winner at -2, giving way for more unexpected voting results, He didn’t directly address his surprise for B33 being in, maybe to him it’s obvious. Agreed

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