It’s Time To Hold Stan Bowman Accountable

On Tuesday, the Chicago Blackhawks released a letter to fans. In it, the club acknowledged that the time for a rebuild is upon us and asked for patience from fans as young players get experience.

In the wake of the letter, Blackhawks general manager Stan Bowman did a media tour that included podcasts with The Athletic and NBC Sports Chicago. He said the team lacks the organizational depth to compete at the highest level in the NHL and needs time to build the club back into a winner.

Let’s talk about that for a moment.

It’s worth noting, again, that Bowman was named the named the ninth general manager in Blackhawks history on July 14, 2009. You can view his complete record as GM here.

First, let’s look at how the 2021 Blackhawks roster was built. How were the players who are expected to be on the NHL roster for the coming season acquired?


Jonathan Toews – drafted 1st round (#3) in 2006 – Dale Tallon
Patrick Kane – drafted 1st round (#1) in 2007 – Dale Tallon
Dominik Kubalik – acquired via trade
Alex DeBrincat – drafted 2nd round (#39) in 2016 – Stan Bowman
Kirby Dach – drafted 1st round (#3) in 2019– Stan Bowman
David Kampf – signed as free agent (Europe)
Mattias Janmark – signed as free agent (NHL)
Lucas Wallmark – signed as free agent (NHL)
Alexander Nylander – acquired via trade
Matthew Highmore – signed as free agent (QMJHL)
Ryan Carpenter – signed as free agent (NHL)
Pius Suter – signed as free agent (Europe)
Matej Chalupa – signed as free agent (Europe)
TBD: Dylan Strome – acquired via trade
LTIR: Zack Smith – acquired via trade
LTIR: Andrew Shaw – acquired via trade*
* – (originally drafted 5th round (#139) in 2011 – Bowman)


Duncan Keith – drafted 2nd round (#54) in 2002 – Mike Smith
Brent Seabrook – drafted 1st round (#14) in 2003 – Mike Smith
Calvin de Haan – acquired via trade
Connor Murphy – acquired via trade
Nikita Zadorov – acquired via trade
Adam Boqvist – drafted 1st round (#8) in 2018 – Stan Bowman
Ian Mitchell – drafted 2nd round (#57) in 2017 – Stan Bowman


Collin Delia – signed as free agent (NCAA)
Malcolm Subban – acquired via trade
Kevin Lankinen – signed as free agent (Europe)

This is a bloated list because the Blackhawks currently have a bloated roster: 16 forwards, 7 defensemen and 3 goaltenders.

We included Suter and Chalupa because they were signed with the idea they would be in the NHL this season. We listed Smith and Shaw as LTIR because there isn’t a clear roster spot for either at the moment and that’s where they finished last season. And we listed Strome as TBD because he still doesn’t have a contract… and there isn’t a spot for him, either.

So where did the current roster come from?

Of the 26 players we listed on the projected NHL roster, four (4) were drafted by Bowman. While Shaw was originally drafted by Bowman, he is currently on the roster because he was acquired by trade.

Two players on the projected roster were drafted by Mike Smith (Keith and Seabrook). Two were drafted by Dale Tallon (Toews and Kane).

So as many players on the roster were drafted by previous GMs as were drafted by Bowman.

The rest of the roster is made up by the following acquisitions:

  • Trade: 8
  • European Free Agent: 4
  • College Free Agent: 1
  • CHL Free Agent: 1

As many players on the current roster were acquired via trade as were originally drafted by the Blackhawks, of which half were selected by GMs prior to Bowman taking over.

If we look at CapFriendly‘s organizational depth (players under contract), you’ll see another interesting mix of player acquisition.

Drafted by Bowman: 6
Acquired via trade: 4
Signed as free agent: 3
* – note: we are not including Suter and Chalupa in this figure because they are in the NHL roster set above.

Drafted by Bowman: 3
Acquired via trade/waivers: 3**
Signed as free agent: 1
* – note: we are not including Mitchell in this group because he is in the NHL set above.
** – note: we are including Nick Seeler (waivers) in this set, not the NHL roster where CapFriendly has him.

Drafted by Bowman: 1 – Matt Tomkins (2012)
* – note: we are not including Lankinen in this group because he is in the NHL set above.

Out of the 21 total contracts listed here for the AHL roster, less than half (10) were drafted by Bowman. Six were acquired via trade and the other four signed as free agents.

Of the 46* players under contract with the Blackhawks organization, 14 (again, not including Shaw) were drafted by Bowman; we listed 47 players but Strome is still unsigned.

In other words, the general manager who has been in his job for more than 11 years is responsible for drafting 30 percent of the players on the complete roster.

It gets worse.

Between 2010 and 2015, the first six drafts owned by Bowman as the general manager, Chicago made 53 selections. Two (2) are with the Blackhawks organization: Shaw (who was brought back by trade) and Tomkins, who was drafted in 2012 and has yet to see NHL action.

Let’s play it forward three more years. Between 2016-18, Chicago owned 26 draft picks. Only six (6) have appeared in an NHL game for the Blackhawks. Two of those six – Blake Hillman and Henri Jokiharju – are no longer in the organization. Another two of those six, Nicolas Beaudin and Lucas Carlsson, have appeared in seven regular season NHL games combined.

Between the 2014 and 2019 NHL drafts, only three players selected by the Blackhawks have appeared in more than 100 regular season NHL games. Two of those three – Nick Schmaltz and Jokiharju – are no longer with the organization.

9 years.

79 draft picks.

Four with NHL experience still in the organization (not including Shaw). And two of those four have seven combined regular season games on their resumes.

Why does the organization lack the depth to compete?

The answer is simple: the Chicago Blackhawks haven’t drafted and developed talent to supplement the NHL roster.

The math is painfully simple. Six percent of the players selected by Stan Bowman in his first nine draft classes have been with the organization

Players have eventually come up and played a role. But the impact of those players is all now in the past. When considering the current roster, Chicago has almost nothing on the NHL roster from nine draft classes.

So whose fault is it that the Blackhawks are now desperately begging for patience because they lack organizational depth?

93 thoughts on “It’s Time To Hold Stan Bowman Accountable

  • October 21, 2020 at 10:02 am

    Wow! Telling summary of complete incompetence! Great teams in a salary cap era REPLENISH their talent successfully….Stan has wasted this opportunity Through sheer incompetence & mis-management. How is he not held accountable by anyone other than the fans?

  • October 21, 2020 at 10:04 am

    Bowman deserves to be held accountable no doubt but to be fair context is important

    He traded away some of the players he drafted to try to win another Cup – like Teuvo, Danault, Johns, Hinostroza, Motte

    And there are others traded away in an effort to get better (whether it worked or not) such as Schmaltz, Hartman and Jokiharju

    Again you can debate the results of these moves but these are all NHL players that Stan drafted that are contributing to other teams

    It seems where Stan has fallen hard is the return on some of these trades (even accounting for the cap forcing a number of them)

    If all the above players were still on the Hawks Stan’s draft and develop record would look a lot different

  • October 21, 2020 at 10:22 am

    Context is absolutely important, Wrap.

    He traded Teuvo in a salary dump.
    He traded Danault for 2 players who did nothing.
    He traded Johns in a salary dump.
    He traded Hinostroza in a salary dump.
    He traded Motte in what was effectively a desperate move to avoid losing Panarin as a free agent. He was a throw-in.

    One of those trades was made to “try to win another Cup” – Danault – and that one failed miserably.

    They gave up on Hartman. He was traded for a prospect (who hasn’t played in the NHL) and two picks.
    They gave up on Schmaltz and traded him for a player who had similarly underwhelmed his organization.
    They sold low on Jokiharju in an effort to add a young forward they needed because they hadn’t drafted well.

    Those are the results of the deals you specifically mentioned. Each of them is a failure for Bowman with the only possible exceptions being the Schmaltz/Strome deal and the picks acquired for Hartman (Beaudin & Philipp Kurashev).

  • October 21, 2020 at 10:31 am

    Honestly there isn’t much to talk about when it comes to the blackhawks until Bowman is fired. There has been so much subtraction from a talent standpoint, I don’t even know where to start. I havn’t posted much because really talking about loosing player after player and the team getting worse and worse is honestly depressing. Bad draft pick after worse draft pick, bad trades, etc, etc… Let’s be honest with ourselves about the last playoff appearance. A pandemic got us in the postseason and any of the games were won because of Crawford. Ohh he is gone now too. When are we going to move on from the subtraction and get back to addition. I think someone posted Bowmans grade as a B. Judging by this being a last place team again I would give him a C- and that is being generous.

  • October 21, 2020 at 10:45 am

    Holy f*ck, a freaking roadmap to the hell we are in (cue AC/DC)….
    Once again, Spin Doctor Stan has been super condescending to all of us that really follow and know hockey; those of us here are not 2010 casual fans. Those people bailed a long time ago.
    Stan needs to own his shit. ALL of it.
    The proof is in the roadmap above.

    Wirtz’s Gonna Wirtz….
    For now, I’m keeping my money in my pocket, and my memories close to my heart.
    ((Go Kraken!))

  • October 21, 2020 at 10:49 am

    Bowman has every right to be criticized but using trades as evidence of poor roster management is wrong. Trades are swapping existing assets trying to upgrade. Trading Nick Schmaltz for Dylan Strome is a negative by the logic in the article but it was really a swapping of assets that upgraded the roster. Same with trading a 5th rounder for Dominik Kubalik. And why are signing European free agents a sign of ineptitude? It is really a supplemental draft and kudos to any GM who improves their roster via this method. Look up Artemi Panarin and let me know how this was a bad move when he was originally signed.

    It is the excess of free agent signings on a roster that indicates poor front office management because then a team is paying full sticker price for a player that is more likely to underperform the contract value. The Hawks don’t have an excess there either. Where Bowman’s fatal flaw has been is overpaying his veterans. Toews and Kane were the two highest paid players for three seasons until McDavid’s contract kicked in. Using point shares as a measuring stick, Toews’ output has been on par with an $8 million player, not $10.5 million. And Seabrook’s $6.875 million was fine for the first two years but will be a boat anchor on the cap for the last four remaining years.

    The saving grace has been Kane has actually outperformed his contract despite the high pay as only Kucherov has clearly better point shares for a winger and a lot of $6 million + wingers have been busts. But unlike Sidney Crosby or Steven Stamkos, neither Kane or Toews left a nickel on the table when their current contracts were negotiated. That’s on Bowman but I don’t have sympathy for a player who questions how we got into this cap fix when their contract is a significant part of the problem.

    The one player I do sympathize more with is Duncan Keith. He still outperformed his contract in Years 6-10 by around 1.1 million per year and he was 25% more productive in Years 1-5. So he left a lot of money on the table. But it helped them win two more Stanley Cups.

    As for Crawford, his salary was almost exactly commensurate with his performance over the last five seasons and that is after missing signficant time over two of them. If he had gotten his 55 starts during those two seasons he would have been the second most productive goalie after (surprisingly) Frederik Andersen. And using point shares, no goalie was worth more than $7.6 million per year.

  • October 21, 2020 at 10:50 am

    Rocky put his trust in Stan let’s see how next season pans out best option tank it we need size desperately Stan doesn’t seem to know which way to go small and speedy doesn’t work we need big bodies oh well going back on time machine 95-05 maybe they will give tickets out on Craig’s list again only suckers will pay to watch this product loafers laziest team in nhl amen

  • October 21, 2020 at 10:59 am

    An underwhelming resume for sure with Bowman,s tenure being prolonged by the 3 Stanley Cups which this organization is now paying the price for.Bowman probably should have been kicked to other duties about 3 years ago.Interesting article on Fanside this morning proposing 3 possible trades for Toews.Dougie Hamilton,Ryan Dzingel,and a 1st round draft pick with the Canes taking on the entire 10.5 Million of Toews contract.Panthers and Bluejackets were the other teams but the Hawks would be taking on part of Toews salary.

  • October 21, 2020 at 11:05 am

    Good article Tab.

    The Bowman apologists will always be there to refute, but the GM makes the decisions to draft/trade.

    If he fails, he gets canned.

    At least that is how it works in the rest of the NHL.

    Bowman has failed.

    Simple, unless you choose to make it difficult in multi paragraph verbiage.

    You stated the guy had done C minus work in previous postings.

    You just proved it.

    Thank you.

  • October 21, 2020 at 11:09 am

    Holding Stan accountable is absolutely fair. Unfortunately it seems like this site has become All Stan All the Time. Everyday is Groundhog Day regarding Stan.

  • October 21, 2020 at 11:18 am

    I’d be curious to see what the average % of hits on draft picks is, and what the % is for teams that have made the playoffs 7 or 8 years in a row. Hard to believe so few are still in the system for the Hawks. Granted, any player drafted below the 3rd round probably has very little chance anyway, but those 1st and 2nd rounders have to at least make the NHL roster at some point.

  • October 21, 2020 at 11:37 am

    Haters gonna hate. That’s fine – everyone is entitled to their opinion. My beef with most of the haters isn’t only the one-sided picture they paint to support their narrative, it’s their inability or unwillingness to acknowledge the intertwined compexities of the actions taken by Stan. Listing each individual move makes for a fine list if your objective is to paint the picture in the worst possible light but it doesn’t come close to the reality of the real picture – a picture that was almost certainly influenced by factors not solely determined by Stan.

    Anyone not tunnel visioned into torpedoing Stan would acknowledge that McD had his meddling hands involved behind the scenes in things Stan gets credit/blame for. For all the angst regarding the Danault trade – please remember that Q wanted veteran players for the run up to the playoffs rather than rookies he didn’t trust and that is what precipitated the Danault trade. So the trade is hung on Stan but Q is the one that pushed that trade.

    I’ll say again – I don’t have a like or dislike of Stan – I have no dog in this fight. If the press conference yesterday had come out and said Stan was fired – I would have been fine with that. What I’m not fine with and why I keep finding myself in the awkward position of being a Stan apologist is the unfair prosecution by disingenuous Stan haters that weigh only the evidence that supports their bias to the exclusion of ALL evidence.

  • October 21, 2020 at 11:46 am

    If there’s an axiom that’s apropos of so much discord across a wide spectrum of topics, it’s – “perfection is the enemy of good”. We use the unattainable metric of perfection to find the good wanting and in so doing dismiss good as something less.

  • October 21, 2020 at 11:52 am

    MS, I agree. Stan should be held accountable. Everyone should be held accountable. But where is the accounting done? Should it be done from the outside or from the inside. Ultimately, it’s both but the inside has more data to use in the assessment and in the case of Stan – Rocky and those on the inside have more pertinent data with which to make their assessment and they have decided to retain Stan … so there’s that.

  • October 21, 2020 at 12:02 pm

    How is it possible that the club is worse off than the Dollar Bill days?? This is utterly ridiculous.

    Pretty sure simulation via EA’s NHL series would have drafted, negotiated and traded better than Stan.

  • October 21, 2020 at 12:09 pm

    Unfortunately Stan isn’t scotty and scotty’s past rejuvenating an Nhl franchise. We bought 4 season tickets the day the hawks hired scotty and got 10 years of bliss before the current dumpster fire began.

    Outside of the best logo in sports, the franchise won’t be relevant soon. Stan made some decent moves (barker for leddy etc) but trading the next Duncan Keith for the poster boy for lazy and hockey senseless nylander will go down as one of the worst in franchise history.

    Time to blow it up including replacing Stan. I hear dale tallon is available.

  • October 21, 2020 at 12:24 pm

    Well if I’d like to steal more from my posts on previous articles but I’ll steal just a bit.

    “When it comes to the draft teams should pick the best available player period. Teams can barely pick needs years down the road.

    Look at draft history anyone drafted after the second round is extremely hit or miss….with most being miss. Heck just running though previous years like 2010 2011 2012 2013 2015 any there are tons of first round draft pick busts. Even the second round has plenty of bad picks.

    Some drafts reimagined based on performance stats years later with a minimum of a hundred games played wouldn’t last past the second round….no seriously look.. the second round wouldn’t even be filled all the way through it would end midway through the second round….seriously. no really go look at draft history of the league overall. And redo the draft…the second round wouldn’t even finish…seriously look.

    Look. ”

    So keeping this in mind how much worse is Stan statistically than the other general managers? Without running a full analysis I’m going to go ahead and say probably near the bottom of the list,but I could be wrong. Again noting I’m totally guessing. That said I’d love to see how accurate this guess is….

    Now the other side of this is ..if I were to run a statistical analysis (which while time consuming wouldn’t be that difficult, give me the data in a spreadsheet and I’ll have it done in ….well I could do it) is to exclude any picks in the top …what is it…top 14 picks that are non playoff teams. I just think those need to be excluded from the analysis. Price of success you may call it….success the Blackhawks should NOT have had this year noting again they were flat out robbed of a top ten pick.

    So with bad drafting, or shall we maybe call it unpredictable as this is a little more league wide than one may initially think. Perhaps the bigger criticism is or should be development? Now the problem is and I guess has to be Rockford right?

    See the problem elsewise is …take for example: The college prospects (one of which walked and is currently probably overpaid in Philadelphia) are not under the direct development of the Blackhawks. As with many prospects for many teams prospects are literally everywhere. Just my opinion but people talk about commesszo as if hes already here. There is a good chance he never even plays for the Blackhawks better odds he plays less than one hundred games if he does. To me the main reason they drafted him was the fact the Blackhawks have two other prospects playing for the same college team.

    What about the most recent first round pick. He will play in europe. Every team has this issue. How much does this or should it factor into who a team picks. I maintain always pick the best player…..but maybe after the second round the focus should be…something else. Obviously the drafting league wide seems to be not that great. ..then again its players making three million a year being told “you’re playing tonight whether you like or or not ” thiugh I’m sure few complain. Foley’s comments on karpotsev probably wouldn’t be taken too kindly by the ever changing social standard. And a team doesnt want to lose them to waivers right? Much of this can be somewhat attributed to player management creating lack of opportunity but that’s union and collective bargaining agreement type stuff and every team has to deal with it.

    God forbid a millionaire or even a minor leaguer making a thousands to play a game I pay to play have their feelings hurt. Might ruin their development I suppose. Not like the past where guys would play hurt or hurt others to protect their livelihood. Heck guys sticking up for their teammates often doesnt happem these days. Maybe having a big physical player would be helpful…oooohh nooooo Saad the inevitable free agent is gone! Now its guaranteed contracts while being a millionaire and opening a brewery (dehaan) or supporting a family business. But hey who doesn’t like bowling and beer right?


    OH and as Tabs article seems to highlight….anyone still calling for the trading of the core for draft picks? You must be out of your mind. Sorry. Players over picks everytime. Problem being none of the picks or heck other prospects they traded for have …developed? So which is it scouting or development or both? Or just bad luck.

    Let roster play as is and see what deals takes more than one team to make a trade. Based on what I see the opportunity is there. Stan would best work the phones and try to have honest conversations about other team needs then try to work the middle between two teams. Though Stan did says it’s the quiet time of year so maybe other gms and team staff just really arent working that much right now.

    Whatever, to me the only big difference between this years roster and lasts is the goalie. As someone else pointed maybe this will expose how bad some players are without a world class goalie between the pipes. Course we already saw that two years ago. How did it look? Different coach, different supporting cast, arguably oh worse supporting cast two years ago might I add. We will see.

    Lots of players waiver exempt on the roster. How many call ups are allowed per season?

  • October 21, 2020 at 12:47 pm

    Simply put…Bowman cannot be trusted with the top picks destined to arrive in our hands due to rebuilding. End of story. Bring someone in who can and rebuild this thing right. Top 5 picks can completely change your organization if executed properly.

  • October 21, 2020 at 12:55 pm

    C minus work is C minus work.
    Blaming someone else for one’s C minus work is the stuff participation trophies are made of.

  • October 21, 2020 at 12:59 pm

    I agree that I don’t think you can throw out players that have been traded when making this evaluation of Stan. I’d also be curious to see a comparison of these types of statistics for other organizations/GMs. Just wondering what a good success rate looks like in an organization that does this well.

    I think there are a lot of valid criticisms here, and I also think there are things he’s done well. Personally I think his biggest downfall was that he made a calculated gamble that the cap was going to significantly increase over the last 5-6 years (I recall many people projecting that at the time) and it just didn’t. He’s acquired some good talent over the years, he just couldn’t retain much of it because of the perpetual cap hell.

  • October 21, 2020 at 1:05 pm

    if you want to see what success looks like, see boston and Tampa since we played each in the finals esp Tampa. and watch Stevie I do it again in DET

  • October 21, 2020 at 1:48 pm

    Tab – respectfully I think you made my point

    I took issue with this general conclusion from your article and I quote

    “The Chicago Blackhawks haven’t drafted and developed talent to supplement the NHL roster”

    Where Stan has particularly failed is in the return for trading away players that he drafted that are now NHL players either because of the cap (ie. salary dump) or to try and win the Cup. So while it’s true Stan hasn’t “supplemented the roster” with developed draft picks he has in fact drafted and developed NHL players I would guess at a rate of an average GM or possibly considering their draft position most years at an above average rate

    My point was that Stan has been OK at drafting and developing it’s the trading of those players where he’s often not been OK

  • October 21, 2020 at 2:01 pm

    Goforfour – ok I’m looking at BOS and TBL and seeing 1 cup each in roughly 10 years of being good

    Tampa lost in the conference finals in 2010, went to the finals in 2015 and finally won in 2020

    Boston won the Cup in 2011 lost in the finals in 2013 and 2019

    The Hawks as you know won 3 cups in 6 years

    The Penguins have come the closest to equaling that with 3 cups in 9 years from 09-2017

    Los Angeles who were the Hawks main rivals for a time won 2 Cups in 3 years 2012 and 2014 but have either missed the playoffs (4 times) or been eliminated in the first round (2 times) in the 6 years since their last Cup

    My point is that sustained NHL success is very difficult but if you want to look at a team as a model Chicago from 2009-2015 is probably the best model

  • October 21, 2020 at 2:03 pm

    one great easy move to start the rebuild rocky:

    hire Michelle: you would immediately please half your fan base and if any men listened, they would realize she is astute in hockey knowledge, very funny and communicates extremely well within the medium’s confines.

    but DON’T let go of TM or JW: your two best broadcasters IMO

    Why do so few women work in sports radio?

  • October 21, 2020 at 2:13 pm

    The article should have been titled, time to hold McDonough accountable. Guess what, Wirtz did. For better or worse Bowman will stay for another couple years.
    Time for hockey

  • October 21, 2020 at 2:42 pm

    Trades are almost certainly evidence of poor management. Its the evaluation of the incoming asset(s) and what their output is. Danault for Flieschman and Weise was the highest level of stupidity. There was no need to make that trade. The Hawks we’re thriving at that time. Joker for Nylander? Joker has solidified himself on Buffalo’s roster while Goldilocks will struggle to get ice time this year. Strome/Perlini for Schmaltz? Why – what did it net? Schmaltz had skill, speed, played great D and part of the PK. Hartman for Edjsell and a draft pick (Beaudin). Hartman is in the league still while those others are not. Johns/Sharp for Garbutt and Daley – who was quickly traded again. I get Sharp’s contract at the time, but the return was poor.

    Stan did get Vermette for a 1st rounder and can argue Vermette was an important ingredient in the 2015 cup. You can also argue that getting Frolik for little netted good results. But objectively, the net result from Stan’s trades aren’t good. The other 30 GMs in the NHL have the same pressures/complexities to deal with and with the same amount of scrutiny.

    And if any statement reeks of ‘tunnel vision’ it’s ‘haters gonna hate’

  • October 21, 2020 at 3:13 pm

    Do we really need to question everything move?
    Ryan Hartman I recall those happy to get a first round pick. Where us Ryan now? On his fourth team in three years. No really Dallas traded for his rights then didnt sign him. Then he was a free agent and signed with Minnesota. In other words the Blackhawks could have just signed him. Surprised they didnt as hes from here. Maybe more the criticism is who should have been drafted instead. That’s always easy years later right? …..maybe Rasmus Sandin??? LOL
    Only threee players after him have even played a single game from the 2018 draft. I’m sure more will start to see the ice this year.

    Speaking of from here…..Hinostroza. recently signed as a Free Agent to Florida. Free agent …could have signed anywhere. Some of these criticisms are easy to dispel

  • October 21, 2020 at 3:15 pm

    Yes there are a list things Bowman did that failed miserably, for sure. Also alot of success happened under his watch, even if he inherited a team ready to win. Seems like ownership feels like that has earned him the endorsement to continue his reload. He mentioned yesterday about 12 to 18 months to see how development is going, quite possibly a critical time frame for him. My question how does a new President fit into this type of scenario. Seems like his hands are tied on bringing in his own hockey people for time being.

    This notion that Crosby left money on the table is not correct. Crosby’s contract was for 12 years, same for Keith, Hossa, why those caphits are so reasonable is that term was not available to Toews and Kane. Instead they signed a shorter deal. That value factored with % of salary cap that salaries are based on, pretty sure most any agent or Gm would agree 19& 88 was a better value or at least as good. Crosbys total contract 104m, while Toews and Kane is 85m, so where is this money he left on the table. Stamkos has not lead his team on a cup run yet, with being injured this year and not playing any time worth noting. Don’t think anybody be willing to trade the whole picture there.

  • October 21, 2020 at 3:30 pm

    Adding are not quite a few fans ready to trade Toews and Kane and seemingly the whole team for draft picks….all while criticizing trading Ryan Hartman for a first round pick???

    We are all over the map now folks.

    What’s funny is the other part of the Harman deal is currently a prospect playing at…..drafted by Nashville playing for….ready….Notre Dame! Know anyone with pull in the Blackhawks organization there that might get that college prospect to be a free agent draftee runner from Notre Dame?? Hint he may have something to do with Rockfords most recent goalie signing…a goalie who played for Notre Dame. Another hint he’s the GM of the team of topic on this site. Too funny. Literally every piece of that trade could be with the Blackhawks if it were truly desired.

  • October 21, 2020 at 4:04 pm

    The statement “Trades are almost certainly evidence of poor management” just isn’t correct. It is one thing to give up more assets in a trade than you receive and 99% of those are bad deals. And several of those bad deals have been listed in the comments. But how was Nick Leddy tainted because he was acquired in a trade for Cam Barker? Or Dominik Kubalik tainted because he was acquired for a fifth rounder? Those were outstanding trades because they got a lot more in return than they gave up.

    This whole perception that Stan Bowman can’t identify talent is just wrong in my opinion. His problem, and it is a big one, is that he overpays on free agent or soon to be free agent talent including his own players. And it scares me when Dach and Kubalik are due new contracts because Bowman has paid a home town premium for his own players instead of negotiating a home town discount.

  • October 21, 2020 at 4:22 pm

    Whats done is done. Stan made many bad trades and no resignings. Hjarmallson, Teravainin, Hartman, Hinastrosa. Johns, Panarin, Saad, Rocky let Stan do what he wanted. COLLITON is not a good coach. Dump him. You have Marc Crawford behing the bench. Firing Quenville was a big mistake, Hossa leaving hurt big time, But the top guy is the Breadman. Saad never should have been back. The End

  • October 21, 2020 at 4:42 pm

    Other than Crawford, Toews, Kane and Seabrook, Stan has made no resignings.

  • October 21, 2020 at 5:25 pm

    He should have been fired April 21, 2017.

  • October 21, 2020 at 5:35 pm

    Stan Bowman was very good at managing the excellent team he inherited.

    3 Cups in 6 years attest to that. Good work in a Salary Cap era.

    But…………,………from 2016 going forward…..,………………….
    When that team needed to be upgraded and rebuilt?

    Stan Bowman has failed miserably.


    Look at how the team has gone further and further South.

    It is not rocket science to understand.

    He made the decisions that produced a declining product on the ice in an Indian Head Sweater.

    That is what matters.

    Who gives a damn about what his draft picks/trades are doing in other sweaters in the NHL?

    He is paid to produce a quality product on the ice in a Chicago Blackhawk uniform.

    The Chicago Blackhawks bear his stamp now.
    Not Dale Tallon’s stamp that Bowman inherited.

    He has done C minus work since 2016.

    He needs to go and Colliton needs to go with him.

  • October 21, 2020 at 5:40 pm

    Love to hear the comments here if Stan paid Breadman $11 million per

  • October 21, 2020 at 5:45 pm

    Dale Tallon hit the jackpot when he was gifted a lottery pick. Outside of that he was awful.
    2006 – outside of Jonathan Toews, not one draftee played an NHL game for anyone
    2007 – outside of Patrick Kane, no draftee played more than 7 NHL games
    2008 – outside of 6th rounder Ben Smith, only one player played an NHL game and he only played one game.

    Mike Smith was the one who drafted the majority of the core players.

  • October 21, 2020 at 6:29 pm

    Actual consideration of opposing views is a good thing – it leads to harmony, even in disagreement.

    Cognitive rigidity is not a good thing – it leads to division in disagreement.

  • October 21, 2020 at 6:37 pm

    Bottom line- living in Ontario, Canada- if the Leafs win a cup before Hawks win #7, Stan’s an idiot for sure!!

  • October 21, 2020 at 7:43 pm

    Isn’t Toronto a lot farther down the road to icing a potential Cup contending team than the Hawks are? I think so.

  • October 21, 2020 at 7:58 pm

    Mr Nease,
    Wikipedia says Tallon was Director of Player Personel from 1998-2003, when he then became asst GM until 2005, at which time he became GM til 2009, when he got replaced by Bowman.

    I knew most, not all of that.

    So that tells me his stamp was all over that team of that era….at least according to Wikipedia.

  • October 21, 2020 at 8:30 pm

    Gonna save some writing. Completely agree with Scott Nease’s analysis and ER’s thinking. People also tend to forget that 5 steady defensemen were needed for our 3 cups in 6 years IN THE SALARY CAP ERA. Sometimes 6 were needed (Remember Anaheim ?, first time I saw pancakes winning a series). We’re lucky Kane wasn’t moved to Florida last year. Rooting since ‘77, I can be patient. Go Hawks!

  • October 21, 2020 at 8:53 pm

    Dale Tallon also drafted Hjarms, traded for Sharp, traded for Versteeg, and signed Marian Hossa.

    Pretty damn good GMing.

  • October 21, 2020 at 9:15 pm

    Tab laying out the hard, indisputable evidence. You can’t change the facts.

    Yet, you can lie, one thing Bowman excels at — consistently. For the sake of brevity, let’s examine, in relevant portion, his take on the goaltender “situation”:


    “Much like Corey needed that opportunity when he came up after the 2010 season, we have a couple young goalies in [Kevin] Lankinen and [Collin] Delia who we haven’t given a real opportunity to. With where we’re headed, the NHL is relying more and more on young players. We’re going to embrace that going forward.”


    “The problem with signing him to a multi-year deal is that, if at the end of this year there was a young goalie that was available, whether through trade or free agency, we would not be in the market to get that person because we’ve already committed ourselves to Corey for another year,” Bowman said. “So shorter term — a one-year deal — was much more appealing to us, and that didn’t interest Corey.”

    In our next installment, we’ll take a look at Bowman’s take on the head coaching situation (from November 6, 2018 to the present).

    Good evening to all.

  • October 21, 2020 at 9:18 pm

    Tallon also signed THE BOB in Florida. Yikes!

  • October 21, 2020 at 9:33 pm

    I don’t have a big problem with Bowman. Clear to me that McDonough was given undo influence into the hockey operation by Rocky. Someone McMarketing convinced Rocky that trying to avoid a full scale rebuilding was the best way to further milk the cash cow. While that might have been the right approach for the pockets of the Wirtz family it created the clusterf*** of a situation the Hawks are now in. And to be clear, the Hawks are in a hole. The pipeline of genuine quality young talent is strong, deep or inspiring enough. The Hawks are anchored with the contracts of Seabrook and Toews. And the salary cap reality is going to keep kicking in the nuts for awhile. Rocky finally fired McMarketing and will let Bowman do what needs to be done now. Obviously Rocky has rationalized that it’s better to stomach the financial hit of being a crappy team for a few years as opposed to the alternative of falling into a 13 year sea of ruin and no playoffs that preceded Dale Tallon being named GM. Like it or not, Rocky is rolling the dice with Bowman and giving him a wide berth for a least a couple seasons. Chances are solid that the Hawks will be picking in the top 5 of next summer’s draft. And probably doing the same the year following. Bowman is going to have to get real like with that high draft capital while hoping Dach, Mitchell, Boqvist Reichel and the handful of other legitimate NHL prospects progress in the background.

    2021 is going to be world class awful hockey in Chicago. I’ve been a diehard since 1979 and I think this upcoming season shapes up to be among the top two or three worst the Hawks have endured over 40 years. Who knows maybe this sobering reality will convince Kane and Keith to void their NMCs and Rocky gives the green light to trade two franchise icons and future Hall of Famers to provide much needed fuel for the rebuild. My primary beef is that Colliton is behind the bench. I cannot stand this guy and to me he is a terrible choice to preside over the coaching and developing of younger talent at the NHL level. And he is not respected by all on that team. Which is a disaster because we don’t want youngsters like Dach and Mitchell to develop under dysfunctional circumstance.

  • October 21, 2020 at 9:46 pm

    good points by all pressure is on stan agreed changes need to happen core needs to go lets hope they wave no trades thanks to the core for all youve done time to move on

  • October 21, 2020 at 9:50 pm

    And all the players he did draft..that were NHL ready..he shipped off. Or in tge case of Kevin hayes, wouldnt even sign.

  • October 21, 2020 at 10:24 pm

    PP bottom line is Tallon was let go in favor of Bowman and regardless of how you want to rewrite it. He did nothing after he left to show it was the wrong decision. By your logic you should be saying Norm Macivor should get the blame for every mistake Bowman made.

  • October 21, 2020 at 11:49 pm


  • October 21, 2020 at 11:53 pm

    Want to add German Star Lukas Reichel Name FUTURE STAR STAN & HIS STAFF DRAFTED

  • October 22, 2020 at 7:03 am

    How stupid.
    I noted how well Tallon performed in Chicago 15 years ago, and people compare it to his recent performance in Florida.

    Who gives rats behind what happened in Florida?


    Hey Mike Ditka won a Superbowl here, but then washed out in New Orleans 5-10 years later.

    He must suck.

  • October 22, 2020 at 9:57 am

    For the love of God, Bowman traded some promising talent BECAUSE:

    1. He was working to prolong the period of the Blackhawks being Stanley Cup contenders

    2. The NHL has this thing called the SALARY CAP and not every desirous hockey player can FIT into the salary structure of the Blackhawks

    3. He had to put in a “sweetner” in order to get another club to take a bad contract off our hands (e.g. Teuvo packaged with Bickell)

    Math is your friend. End of subject

  • October 22, 2020 at 10:06 am

    Ducks Murray 12yrs
    Bruins Sweeney 5 yrs
    Aves Sakic 6yrs (this is the year imo)
    Blue Jackets Kekalainen 7yrs
    Stars Nill 7yrs
    Habs Bergevin 8yrs
    Preds Poile 23yrs!
    Rangers Gorton 5yrs (close SCF this year imo)
    Sharks Wilson 17yrs!
    Canucks Benning 6yrs
    Jets Chevaldayoff 9yrs

    So if your GM doesn’t win a Stanley Cup in 5 years he should be Fired! Let’s not forget that StanBow is competing against 31 other guys for the Holy Grail. 14 other GMs have been in place 2 years or less. Tampa’s BriseBois won (maybe given the keys to a Ferrari, sound familiar) a Cup.

    Let it play out some more. Again happy to have witness 4 Cups in my lifetime with 3 victories. Let’s work on another in 5 years.

    Don’t forget, The Devil you know is always better than The Devil you don’t.

  • October 22, 2020 at 10:17 am

    At this point, I’m exhausted. I’ve been a Blackhawks fan for over 60 years. Never abandoned my loyalty while bad years were going by. Now. .it is so so disappointing to see how Stan Bowman is allowed to screw up this team year after year. Rocky Wirtz doesn’t seem to care anymore. They won 3 Cups, and the fans still pack the UC. So. They need a new GM and a better coach … Why is it so hard for ownership to make the change. We are on our way to another decade of Pulford years.

  • October 22, 2020 at 10:37 am

    To JR’s post:

    Ducks Murray 12yrs – probably should be replaced
    Bruins Sweeney 5 yrs – they were the best regular season team in the league last year
    Avs Sakic 6 yrs – doing a marvelous job. I’m envious.
    Blue Jackets Kekalainen 7 yrs – small market, small pockets, doing well.
    Stars Nill 7 yrs – they were just in the Cup Final
    Habs Bergevin 8 yrs – should have been replaced
    Preds Poile 23 yrs – dead man walking
    Rangers Gorton 5yrs – took over at the beginning of a rebuild
    Sharks Wilson 17 yrs – probably near the end of his rope
    Canucks Benning 6yrs – doing very well imo
    Jets Chevaldayoff 9yrs – should have been replaced, will if they lose Laine

  • October 22, 2020 at 10:46 am

    I can appreciate folks saying we should let this play out. Unfortunately, the shelf life for most head coaches and GMs is usually maxed out at 10 years. Bowman has had 11. He inherited a Cup championship roster, and did a good job of rebuilding it into two more championships. I give him full marks for navigating the cap and sustaining a dynasty.

    The last 5 years, however, have shown us that there has been a level of desperation in the front office that has led to poor decisions re: talent in the organization. And, as we have talked about numerous times here in the past, the Blackhawks have not developed anyone in Rockford. Saad & Shaw weren’t there long. Neither were Teuvo, Leddy, Boqvist, etc. In fact, Saad, Shaw & Leddy spent much of their time w/ the Hogs during the lockout – it wasn’t necessarily by choice.

    If we’re going to give Bowman time to right the ship, we need to see moves that are pointed at the future more than the now.

    I’m OK w/ the Maatta deal. That was a pure salary dump and they didn’t have to include additional assets – a win imo. Could they have found a partner in need of a bottom-four defenseman w/ his cap hit? Unlikely because of the cap. So they did fine there.

    The Saad deal frustrates me. I struggle to imagine they couldn’t have done better after Taylor Hall signed for 1 year & $8M; Saad has one year and $6M on his deal – one of the runners up may have been willing to take him at that price. The Hawks added a veteran defensemen – which they had just moved a piece in Maatta – and still ate some of Saad’s cap hit in making that trade. That felt more like a hockey move than a rebuild move, which contradicts the philosophy they’re trying to sell us now.

    I like the two free agent forwards they added. Both should help this year (because there are no forwards apparently ready to play 3rd line roles in the org). And they’re pure rentals (one-year contracts) who may have trade value at the deadline.

    I need to see moves that indicate consistent vision for the future. So far we haven’t seen that… in 5 years. If this is where they’re headed they should have been more aggressive at the draft, too.

  • October 22, 2020 at 10:51 am

    re: Big Barn’s comments – your second point actually contradicts itself and is the entire point of this article. The NHL DOES have a thing called the salary cap. And having cost-controlled talent on rookie contracts is precisely HOW you make it work w/ the cap. There need to be waves of talent coming up to replace older player they can no longer afford so you’re not overpaying bandaids (see: Smith, Zack). Can’t buy that as rationale for mediocre trades.

    Either they’re failing to evaluate their internal talent or they simply haven’t drafted well enough to fill the bottom six internally. There is once case of moving a good prospect to get money off the books – Teuvo. And giving Bowman credit for having to move a talented prospect to rid himself of a terrible contract he wrote is also a self-defeating argument of support.

  • October 22, 2020 at 11:13 am

    I think the “starting point” from which to evaluate Stan is now – the first off season after McD was no longer influencing the decisions being made. This is the first off season he has autonomy. He may not be the right guy to do it but he should be judged on what he does – not on what he was told or allowed to do.

    Having said that, he has autonomy as the decision maker but he still has his hands somewhat tied because of the NMCs of the most expensive players. The Rangers seem to have become the model for how to rebuild but looking at that model shows multiple years of purging high salaried players from their team. That would be the best scenario (IMO) to effect this rebuild in the shortest time frame but even then the time frame is probably closer to 4-5 years than 2-3 years.

  • October 22, 2020 at 12:15 pm

    Bowman could not possibly have know that Bickell would drop off the face of a cliff and be diagnosed with MS. Young talent in the system? Well, when your draft position is low for almost a decade then it’s going to be exponentially harder to secure top flight talent. Bowman absolutely must do better in drafting and developing players, but at some point the right albeit painful strategy to have moved forward with is trading Toews, Kane and Keith to the highest bidder. That won’t happen now. Maybe Kane sours about playing for a dog while he’s still elite and therefore demands a trade. Maybe.

    Let’s be perfectly honest. What the Hawks need and are poised to get is a couple of years of picking in the top 5 in the draft. They MUST hit big on those marquee picks similar to what they hopefully did with Dach.

  • October 22, 2020 at 12:53 pm

    I think his bad contracts to show loyalty to good players caused him to have to use most of his blue chips as bait to take bad cap hits.
    And when did Mark Kelley come on board?

  • October 22, 2020 at 12:54 pm

    Tab as i just mentioned on next post, in last 5 drafts, 40 picked, 33 still in system. Only Jokiharju traded and other 6 gone were not offered an elc when rights expired. 4 in Nhl counting Mitchell and 9 signed to elcs, so definitely a shift to keeping and trying to develop seems to be afoot recently.

  • October 22, 2020 at 2:10 pm

    The Rangers rebuild has gone amazingly well …..they sent a letter to their fans explaining what was happening in 2018….it’s now 2020. By the 2021 season they should be ready to compete for the playoffs every year. Two talented young goalies, so good they said goodbye to the King. Signed a top tier free agent in Panarin. Traded vets for several draft picks and loaded their prospect pool. Drafted Kakko number 2. Drafted Lafrienere number 1. Traded with Carolina for a talented young dman in Fox.

    Shrewd smart moves, good drafts, a key free agent signing. Young guys they had developed nicely like DeAngelo, Strome, and Zibanijad really came into their own last year.

    They turned it around in a hurry. Could see the Hawks seeing similar progression from Boqvist, maybe even our own Strome, and Dach. I feel the best about Dach, not sure on the other two. Can we make a deal to pick up a solid top 4 defensman or key young player from a capped out team like when we lost Teuvo? Can we add a couple of top tier guys from the next two drafts? (because it sure feels like we missed out on this last draft….the guys that went 8-10 were a league above Reichel at 17)

    Can we sign a key free agent down the line? Can any of our young goalies show the potential to be a number 1? Those are the ones I am not confident of, but if we do, no reason we can’t compete again solidly in two to three years. But they need to clear out enough cap space to be able to use that as a weapon in a flat cap environment.

  • October 22, 2020 at 2:43 pm

    The “flaw” of looking at the NY Rangers situation as the comparative? They weren’t saddled with 3 past their prime and expensive former core pieces like the Hawks are with Toews, Seabrook and to lesser degree Keith. Huge difference in the salary cap challenged faced by both teams. Oh, and the Rangers were blessed with the number #2 overall pick in 2019 and the #1 overall pick in 2020 which netted them TWO hoped for generational elite talents ala Toews and Kane in 2007 and 2008, respectively.

  • October 22, 2020 at 3:17 pm

    Uh oh. Sounds like PP got mad at me for not patting him on the head or stroking his back. Gosh. I’m heartbroken that he sounds upset.

    Factually, nothing incorrect in my post. It wasn’t an opinion. It was a fact. Because it doesn’t fit your narrative doesn’t mean it wasn’t worth mentioning, even if it was just a sarcastic comment meant to get a few snickers from humans on this thread. Doesn’t make it any less true. Still a fact.

    Not everything needs to be about PP or any of his other iterations on this board. Get over yourself.

    Tab may have a participation trophy for ya if you ask him nicely.

    Remember – if you are whining, you are losing.

  • October 22, 2020 at 4:09 pm

    Silent Spot with the post of the week calling out the whiny little bitch old coot Perimeter Player. Whose life has mostly been around the perimeter commenting about things of which he knows very little. Just like the whiny old coot little bitch he is.

  • October 22, 2020 at 4:09 pm

    Hereismike1 ….the rangers rebuild is largely centered around signing a big time free agent, maybe you’ve heard of him Panarin. Who btw makes some players around him look better. He wanted to go there so to those they should have signed him here it was long rumored new york was a desired destination. No guarentee he stays in Chicago. Turned around in a hurry? They finished second to last in a weak division and alot of the rebuild seems to be built around free agent signings. Having a bunch of prospects, many of which are not currently playing in the nhl and will not stick in the nhl, isnt what I would call a good team.

    So in terms of talking about the comparative signing of free agents. Blame kane Toews Seabrook keith all you want. Seems to me dehaan is largely ignored in that conversation. Same for debrincat. A bad year you can add kubalik to the list. Hopefully not. Some would argue Saad should have been on the list. I wouldn’t but some would. What about Crawford. Heck Lehner wasnt cheap!!!

    Let’s also throw in they won the lottery draft this year when….IN REALITY the Blackhawks SHOULD have had better odds of winning it but instead were given the 17th pick.

    New york Losing lots of money due to buying put contract after contract (which they’ve done many times over the years). Turned inappropriate hurry in part to a new goalie…who btw was undrafted anyone could have got him including Chicago. Their other goalie was drafted…..six years ago in the fourth round. The Blackhawks could have drafted him five times before that…oh and get this, it was the Blackhawks originally owned pick. Traded for Peter Regin and pierre Marc borchardt. One actually played 28 games for the Blackhawks.

    So as you cited the Rangers who as of this moment have signed free agents, won a lottery the Blackhawks should have had better odds with and play in weaker division and really at this second havent accomplished anything, I just dont see the same thing you do.

  • October 22, 2020 at 6:11 pm

    They olny give participation trophys to Flatlanders.

  • October 22, 2020 at 6:15 pm

    It was only because of F ing Bettman did a 12 seed team/CHI get the 17th pick and a playoff team/8 seed? get the top 3 pick/top pick.

    Karma will go to that. An 8 seed getting the top 3/top pick.

  • October 22, 2020 at 6:18 pm

    Yea total BS.

    I just think those need to be excluded from the analysis. Price of success you may call it….success the Blackhawks should NOT have had this year noting again they were flat out robbed of a top ten pick.

  • October 22, 2020 at 6:34 pm

    Honest, love the posts these wks here just like Sr. Brads and Phils and other like.

  • October 22, 2020 at 6:36 pm

    BOS was terrible/bad like us for 2 yrs and thats what got them 4 1st picks. They used there same older core like we have with those 4 good 1sts draft picks to get back to top 5 team.

    BOS also has a really good team system and that is a very big part of it.

    Thats what I want us to do.

    October 21, 2020 at 1:05 pm
    if you want to see what success looks like, see boston and Tampa since we played each in the finals esp Tampa. and watch Stevie I do it again in DET

  • October 22, 2020 at 6:52 pm

    Really think CHI would be more compared to the other top 10 teams of the decade. So only BOS is a top team now of those top 10 teams last decade.

    BOS did suck for 2 yrs. We have for 2 of 3 yrs and prob another here/need that top 5 skill draft player.

    TB is sort of like us in 2009 but it took them to win first Cup in ‘there’ 2014.

    The top 10 teams of last decade BOS is the only top 5 team or 10 right now. Were going to get back in a couple yrs. Everyother top 20 team last decade are bottom 10 or midtier and going not up like we are.

    top 10 teams in order rank/last decade

    Well I guess WAS STL are still top top teams and NAS should be but you see what I am saying.

    We ll see how good BOS is without top pair D guy. You could see what it did to WIN.

  • October 22, 2020 at 6:59 pm

    Hey I forget who did we get for the Hartman trade.

    October 21, 2020 at 3:30 pm
    Adding are not quite a few fans ready to trade Toews and Kane and seemingly the whole team for draft picks….all while criticizing trading Ryan Hartman for a first round pick???

    We are all over the map now folks.

  • October 22, 2020 at 7:05 pm

    This might be the best plan to Load the young wave. This gets us 3-5 elite players for the younger core.

    Then lets roll 4 lines Baybaaaay!

    West side barn,
    Rocky is rolling the dice with Bowman and giving him a wide berth for a least a couple seasons. Chances are solid that the Hawks will be picking in the top 5 of next summer’s draft. And probably doing the same the year following. Bowman is going to have to get real like with that high draft capital while hoping Dach, Mitchell, Boqvist Reichel and the handful of other legitimate NHL prospects progress in the background.

  • October 22, 2020 at 7:15 pm

    I know the core 4 (remaining) are not up for a rebuild….but as a season ticket holder….neither am I!! I am paying for tickets based on a run up in pricing due to the team watching the secondary market! Well….they better watch the secondary market if and whenever they start to play to “full” houses again. I know it sounds kind of bad….but it looks as though I am financially committed to whatever 2020 – 2021 will look like. Hoping they do start playing January 1. My bet is seating…if any….will be severely limited until April 1. So at least I can get refunded my money for the first three months or about half the season. This coming year will be it for me as a STH….unless they REALLY adjust pricing based to the same market data they where using 2009 – 2006!

  • October 22, 2020 at 7:16 pm

    and….this Boman gig is a joke! Its the second coming of Bob Pulford….and we all know the success that brought.

  • October 23, 2020 at 6:29 am

    Yes, Chuck L. That’s what happens when you hand a guy a job based on who his father is.

  • October 23, 2020 at 6:45 am

    No, I’m not buying Bowman’s bullshit about being in the rebuild process for the last year and a half. Both he and Colliton are just trying to explain away the lousy jobs they’ve done as GM and coach. Now, were rebuilding with youth. That’s why we traded 25 yr old Dylan Sikura for 29 yr old Brandon Pitrri. Let’s give our youngsters a chance. You know, like Colliton giving Henri Jokiharyu a fair shot. I hate to even think about what these two knuckleheads might do with some of the ‘youngsters’ they bring up.

  • October 23, 2020 at 9:05 am

    My thoughts hartmans a grinder good trade hammer is hurt every year since leaving good trade no popular Murphy a lot younger we seem to be able to find talent the rest totally sucks rebuilding only choice and please stop overpaying uc going to empty out get a tough coach this is the laziest team in nhl which is on the coach

  • October 23, 2020 at 10:36 am

    Yeah, to those who are comparing Bowman to Bob Pulford, just stop. It’s embarrassing and completely false. You don’t have to like Bowman, and I am not trying to make you stop liking him, but stop with the incorrect comparisons.

    Pulford actively tried to keep the Hawks from being good enough to have to pay his best players what they are worth and he actively traded away those players when it became apparent they would have to be paid more than the Hawks would be willing to pay.

    Bowman gave Toews and Kane the richest contracts in Hockey at the time as a reward for their contributions to the team. Keith was given lifetime security and Seabrook was given a contract that many people think was completely out of proportion to what he was worth as a way to make up for not being able to pay him that when he was making the contributions. Sharp, Crawford, Kruger etc…

    Bowman rewarded these guys for their contributions and he also tried to win for a long time. That his moves did not work out as well as they did before is not the same thing as not trying to win. Pulford never had any intention of running a successful on ice Hockey team. He just wanted the team good enough to fill the Stadium so Old Man Wirtz could sell booze to a packed house each night.

    Bowman, treats his players very well and very fairly. Pulford did not.

    So, if you want to bitch about Stan being bad at his job, great! He made a lot of mistakes, so bitch and moan about those. But don’t pretend that just because you don’t like him, that somehow that makes him the same as Pulford. They are not remotely the same.

    Pulford has zero Cups.

    Bowman has three Cups. Nuff said.

  • October 23, 2020 at 10:55 am

    Meant to say I am not trying to make you stop “dis”-liking him.

  • October 23, 2020 at 12:39 pm

    Being to nice doesn’t work either this team won’t hustle another thing kanner made a lot of money for those playing with him cats contract is going to be regrettable hope I’m wrong 20 goals for 6.4 don’t think so saad was the same just can’t give out contracts like this trade them if you have to

  • October 28, 2020 at 4:59 pm

    “When considering the current roster, Chicago has almost nothing on the NHL roster from nine draft classes”. So if there was another Western Conference team this past season whose top 22 players had only 5 players who were drafted but had 9 acquired through a trade, 6 acquired through free agency and 2 acquired via waivers, how do you think they did? This team is the Colorado Avalanche and Joe Sakic has done a pretty good job. And all five of their draftees were top 10 overall picks. And their AHL team hasn’t been particularly strong at funneling talent to the NHL level.

  • October 29, 2020 at 9:20 am

    re: Sublime’s comparison of the Hawks & Avs – the difference, of course, is the Avs core was drafted well after the Blackhawks. Sakic has done a nice job of maximizing talent that others haven’t and traded for young players – two things the Hawks have struggled to do over the past 6 years.

  • October 29, 2020 at 10:13 am

    I’m not disputing that the Hawks have made some questionable trades, particularly their deadline deals. What I am disputing is that whether having relatively few players on your roster who you acquired in the amateur draft is evidence of poor roster management. And the Bowman comparison gets handicapped in that five key pieces from last season were already in place before 2010. It shouldn’t be a strike against Bowman that Mike Smith struck gold with Keith, Seabrook and Crawford and Dale Tallon nailed his two lottery picks. What I hold against Bowman is that he paid full sticker price plus a premium to renew Toews, Kane and Seabrook. Kane has outperformed his current contract but he shouldn’t have been paid $10.5 million based on his performance through 2014.

  • October 30, 2020 at 8:28 am

    “Kane has outperformed his current contract but he shouldn’t have been paid $10.5 million based on his performance through 2014.”

    Evander Kane?

    Patrick Kane has been worth every cent of his contract. He & Toews got deals they were worth at the time. I’ll never have an issue w/ what they got when they got it.

  • December 16, 2020 at 6:27 pm

    Fast forward to December 16 2020 and this article has a whole different meaning

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