Jets Claim Carl Dahlstrom Off Waivers
The Blackhawks lost a defenseman on Tuesday.
The Winnipeg Jets, who are in limbo wondering if/when they’ll get Dustin Byfuglien back on their blue line, claimed Carl Dahlstrom off waivers.
Chicago placed Dahlstrom, 24, on waivers Monday with intent of sending him to Rockford to begin the season. The Blackhawks originally drafted Dahlstorm in the second round (51st overall) in the 2013 NHL Draft. He appeared in 49 NHL regular games for the Hawks, producing nine assists.
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Good for him….not sure he will be on the team very long but its a good test and a chance for him….good luck to him .
Good luck to him,, gotta say with Hickey and Schenn there a bit surprised.
what do the hawks get in return?
Shawn they got one less body on the blueline in Rfd., nothing else. That’s the risk of waivers.
Yes and I think they will also get his money back in the salary cap? Correct?
Both Schenn and Hickey are older. More of a known quantity. Hickey is to make 2.5m and is a left shot. Schenn is a right shot but you gotta think the Jets think there’s some more development there with Dahlstrom. Schenn and Hickey are declining.
One less D in Rockford. One less roster spot. One less decision. Hawks say congratulations to Dahlstrom, and thank you to the Jets.
His dollars were never on the cap. It’s like a trade. A none for one trade.
I didn’t mind him.
I would rather have Gilbert, Koekkoek or Holm for the 6/7 d-man role than Dahlstrom – so not a big loss as far as I’m concerned.
Thats my point, Jets are in a win now mode, it’s waiver wire you pick up somebody who has to stay on Nhl roster to help you this year. Draft picks are for developing.
With Boqvist, Gilbert and Holm all available, it probably best thing for Dahlstrom to get a fresh start.
Shawn his caphit would’ve been low enough to bury it all in minors if he cleared, so be no impact on caphit.
If he plays for the Jets you really get a sense of how much its fallen with all their summer losses.
What you saw from Dahlstrom was pretty much his peak.
Knew there was going to be a waiver casualty this summer. This wont hurt the Hawks.
In the Dahlstrom vs KK competition I think they made the right choice so that’s the chance you take when you have to put someone on waivers
A loss but not a big one
Sounds like Nylander to Rfd
Sorry bad report on twitter. Nylander on roster Dach T camp ir
Jokihariu sent to the ahl with buffalo…hmmmmmm. If he was here, same would have happen, kid needs more time to develop, still a soft defenseman.
Joki is a good Defenseman but he needs more strength. Bowman should have traded another Defenseman instead of risking a waiver wire loss if possible. He should have been on the phone to Winnipeg when he knew they lost their 3 right Defenseman. Dahlstrom started strong but seemed ordinary the longer he was with the club. I don’t think it’s a big loss but a loss we may have been able to avoid.
Hossa, who would you have traded and for what? It’s easy to play Monday morning qb, especially when you don’t throw out a scenario let alone a realistic one.
Every team knew they had too many D. Every team knew someone was going on waivers to be had for nothing. There’s no leverage to trade a 7/8 defenseman. None.
Agree there was no trade value, when they wait them out. Doubtful anyone else would’ve claimed Dahlstrom as alot had to pass for Jets to get him.
Arizona had similar situation with Barrett Hayden last year as Dach now. Him and Quenneville can’t be reassigned until
cleared to play. The 14th fwd spot is there, but not a given Dach stays, maybe so, maybe a few games or could be reassigned as soon cleared. Quenneville by clearing waivers would seem to say he goes to Rfd once cleared to play.
Jokiharju may be back after Sabres move Rousalainen, Joki didn’t need to clear waivers, other guy would’ve been claimed.
Murphy to IR…and deHaan isn’t…Did he play the Berlin game?
Ian, Scandella? Or McCabe? Nobody is acquiring Scandella at 4m. Never heard of John Gilmour, but if it’s as a 7d role I could see why you don’t want Jokiharju there.
Pilut and Dahlin(not that you would) are both waiver exempt. They just traded for Colin Miller. They’d like to move Ristolainen, but few teams are going to want to touch him. Montour is on IR.
Just reading on it, Joki will be recalled by Thursday opening game, it was done to maximize ltir room. Wouldn’t count on Pilut staying up apparently, already reassigned and recalled once.
I’m saying Nylander gets close to 20 goals this year and if true I’d be happy with that
I also think Stan made it abundantly clear that they’re going to give Dach a chance to play NHL games – I would say very little chance he gets re-assigned to Saskatoon before playing any games at all
I’m optimistic that he’s already better as a 3C than Kampf and I think the Hawks feel the same but he needs the games to prove it – unless he’s noticeably out of his depth I think Dach will get the full 9 game trial before they decide
I don’t want Dach playing 3c minutes. I haven’t seen anything that shows he has the defensive qualities or faceoff skills to play center let alone 3c. A role usually reserved as a checking line.
Agree don’t think Dach is ready for 3c role right away, needs build some confidence. To me he should be in top 6 not bottom 6.
Rusty if Buff not coming back, could see Routsolainen being good fit with the Jets. Be in the market for a Rd dman.
Unfortunately they don’t know if he is or isn’t. In limbo. I just don’t like Ristolainen at all. Completely disinterested in playing any resemblance of defense. Every advanced metric backs this up when compared to teammates so it’s not just playing on a bad team. I wouldn’t touch him with the term and dollars left.
Then again if it was a Perreault for Ristolainen swap, I’d consider it.
Sorry Rusty and Ian I disagree – first of all we haven’t seen Dach vs NHL competition and there was nothing in his playing vs AHLers or prospects to say definitively that he’s not ready – I’m not saying he is ready (although I’m optimistic that the NHL is the best place for him) but I’m saying he deserves a chance (whether it’s 3C or elsewhere in the line up) and Stan has said as much as well
Also while the 3rd line with Kampf seems like a checking line a 3rd line of 20-77-8 could prove more of a handful for the opposition to defend against plus all three of them are defensively responsible including Dach so if Kirby can handle the pace, intensity and responsibility of the NHL why not let him play?
I think that could be an important line for the Hawks – if I’m wrong then send him back
I don’t think the Hawks are gonna sit back and watch Kirby Dach lose games for them – if that were to happen he’d he back in the WHL in no time – but on the flip side they’re not going to send him back without seeing first if he can help them win games this year and on that basis the decision should and IMO will be made
I’m looking forward to his first game action
Another trade i wouldn’t be surprised to see is Pens send Jack Johnson and Andy Murray to Wild for Jason Zucker.
Remember. Dach was 40% at the dot in junior. When they send him back they’re going to say we want him to get stronger, work on defense, and his faceoffs.
Uhh…Johnson and goaltender Matt Murray? Bold but I never understood the angst behind trying to trade Zucker. The contract isn’t that bad. The Johnson deal, I love Captain America and what his parents did to him is just absolutely abhorrent. But that deal was awful before it was signed. Not dollars, but term.
Murray will be an RFA and they think they have 2 decent goalies as backups. But I think there’s better options for Rutherford. Then again it’s Rutherford so who knows
Rutherford needs capspace, been trying to move both, wanted Zucker before but Kessell used his ntc to veto it. Wild need a young goalie getting old there with Dubnyk and wanted Johnson as part of deal Kessell nixed, so makes sense. Èrroneous reports Johnson told he”‘ll being shopped.
Jets gotta fill Buff void, not a lot of options right now. Saying Buff letting them know soon what he’s doing.
Yeah, the Jets really have to get the Buff situation cleared up … tell ya what – we’ll trade Seabrook for him straight up.
Lost opportunity
Everyone knew the Hawks had a log jam on their blue line. Those same people knew that the Jets have a hole on their blue line.
Let’s make a deal Stanley
Again if I’m everyone HH I wait. I know the Hawks have to make that move. No need to call Stan. Just like Stan can now go look and see what he can pick up without calling anyone else.
regardless of what we’ve seen from him, losing a 6’4″ 230 lb. Swedish defensemen just feels wrong to me….
Gander they have 2 spors open on 23man and over 2m in capspace. Will have to recall Gilbert if Dehaan can’t go Friday. He is still with them by the way, as are Wedin and Delia. They made the decision to waive Dahlstrom for reasons other than urgency to file the roster. Jets likely only takers, so they knew they could wait them out, maybe hoped Jets wouldn’t disrupt final roster this close to season opener.
Not sure why nationality means anything at all. Gander wants Swedes. Hull wants Canadians. Mediocrity is mediocrity.
Gilbert is about the same size. Skating is probably about equal. One brings physicality. The other doesnt. Everything else is about the same. One is 2 years younger with more room to improve after playing 1 professional year.
Ian, with the questions over deHaan, you think they tried to sneak Dahlstrom through waivers so they could play him a few games if need be then send down or trade? The Senators put Smith On waivers last year but never sent him down. Dahlstrom would probably have had slightly more value had he passed through waivers. Similar to the Jan Rutta situation last year. Placed on waivers, sent down, then traded.
I think they probably had a good idea Jets were interested, usually teams do. Just did it right before start of season to make it tougher for them, as they knew Jets just waiting for him. Very well could’ve played a couple of games. The fact Gilbert came along and can be recalled on a paper move while still there, tells me they planned to try and get him through at toughest time to claim him but knew pretty much they needed Gilbert for insurance as unlikely to clear. Same as Wedin and Delia are insurance on trip if needed, but took 2 defense for a reason.
I agree, Kampf is a 4th liner and thus a checking line center. And why is the 3rd line supposed to be a checking line? It’s the reason why the Hawks have not made the playoffs or won the CUP since 2015. Look at the 3rd line roster since 2016? (Shall we remind ourselves….Weise, Bouma, Kunitz etc….)
Our 3rd line in 2015 was Sharp Vermette Teuvo? Was that a checking line? NOPE.. the checking line was our 4th line made up of Desjardins Kruger Shaw! So, 20 77 8 is perfect! Even though I still believe 20 is being wasted on a 3rd line atleast with DACH he has an offensive player with size and then Kubalik who also has size but is a shooter. This makes sense to me not number 64!!! Please no more talk about 64, starting to sound like Sikura hype, right Stan?
Wrap not saying Dach not going to stay, but would he thrive in a role where he goes up against opposing teans top scoring center, while expected shutdown that line scoring line and bring offense of his own. A role where he is allowed to adapt his game skills to Nhl level, playing with 19 and 88 who could help him do that, may be a better spot. Remember as Hulls laughingly selective memory forgot, Debrincat played 3rd line his rookie year with Sharp and Anisimov to help him adapt.
As far as if they send him back to juniors, did you ever hear of a player being ruined by spending too long in Juniors, many have suffered from not enough time there, so if he goes back just have to accept it’s for the best i guess.
Vermette was a checking line center. Awesome at the dot. Defensively reliable. Sharp, even when he was a top6 player always killed penalties.
Dave Bolland at 3c drove Joe Thornton NUTS.
I agree that you don’t NEED a checking line. But when you’re trying to develope an 18 year old while also trying to stress test your 2c to see if he’s worthy of a contract
Lineup configuration is different today than it was 15-20 years ago. The 3rd line was generally considered the checking line and the 4th line was usually pluggers and fighters and palookas. It has evolved into playing a checking whereas the 3rd line now is more about offense than defense than it used to be. Kampf would have been OK in a 3rd line checking role years ago, but now he doesn’t provide enough offense to be a good 3rd line center. He’s not going to hurt you playing 3C but he’s not going to maximize his line mates offensive potential by any stretch.
I agree Kampf shouldn’t be a 3rd line player. I just don’t think putting Dach there is the right thing for his development.
Salary cap plays a big role on who play 3rd line too. Ideally 3 skilled lines and checking line, is the goal. But with so much cap used on top players, keeping 9 offensive superstars who play elite defense isn’t doable. Kampf may not be 3c all year but he is definitely getting a shot to start. With what we saw defensively in preseason, until things look otherwise with team defense, probably not a bad idea at all. When that gets straightened out, then worry about trying to ramp up the offense.
Teply with a great start to his WHL career. 7 points through 5 games. Keep an eye on his teammate defenseman Carson Lambos. 2nd overall pick in the WHL draft. Defense is the first thing he’s lauded for. January ’03 birthday. 6’1 200 left shot. Also has the offense with 5 points through 5 games.
Teams should be able to draft players as 16 yr olds, but make them ineligible to play in the NHL until 18.
Liked the Teply pick, real power forward potential, lots of size and skill, so far adjustment to North America has been smooth. Lambos be eligible in 21 draft i assume is he.
2021 for Lambos.
I am with Wrap on Dach. He plays 5-9 games and gets enough sample size to see if hes ready enough. With a 20 77 8 line its not the checking line. The 4th line 15 22 64 is. At 5 -9 games then we can go with what were doing based on Dach being ready. 15 is banged up so we have 5 or more? 4th line checking players so 9 games isint going to hurt team record.
Sure we had 3rd line as checking line on some of those yrs. We also gad 4th line as checking line in 2014 2014 2015 with 36 16 67, 65 16 11 when it was different then 2009 2010 yrs.
Hull we didnnt have the depth those yrs because of cap. Now we got it back once we were able to. Its on now from now on.
Game on!
I think I just saw a – 4 tonight for Anisimov in his first game as a Senator
It’s Ottawa… against the Leafs. Enough said.