Kubalik, Blackhawks Blast Bolts In Huge Third Period
Tampa was down some significant pieces with the Blackhawks coming into their barn on Thursday night, but based on how the two teams have been playing over the past couple months it’s easy to imagine how the Lightning could still feel confident.
The opening 20 minutes saw both teams send three skaters to the box and neither team convert on a power play. Chicago held an 11-10 shot advantage after one period and the score was tied at zero. As has been the case frequently over the past two months, Corey Crawford was busy keeping the Hawks in a game.
Brayden Point scored at 15:31 into the second period. Only two penalties were called in the second and it appeared both teams were more comfortable actually getting to spend some time at even strength. Chicago didn’t answer the Point goal before the second intermission.
When Nikita Kucherov scored 17 seconds into the third period it felt like a potentially back-breaking goal. The Hawks were getting skated around and struggling to consistently attack the net; Chicago was out-shot 17-6 in the second period.
Then the least expected series of events played out.
Chicago scored five unanswered goals.
Brandon Saad got Chicago on the board at 4:36 into the third.
Dominik Kubalik tied the game 26 seconds later.
Slater Koekkoek, a former Lightning player, scored his first goal with the Blackhawks against his former employer ten minutes into the third to give the Blackhawks a 3-2 lead.
Kucherov went to the box at 10:35 and the Blackhawks converted on the power play. Kubalik picked up his second of the night.
Kubalik wasn’t done. He added his third of the night and 29th of the season into an empty net inside the final three minutes of regulation to put the capstone on a stunning third period rally.
For the first time in 11 years, the Blackhawks won a regular season game in Tampa.
Crawford was spectacular. He stopped 37 of 39 in the victory.
There was only one assist awarded in the game on Chicago’s five goals. Saad picked up a helper on Kubalik’s third and final goal, giving him two points.
In the continued “development is our primary objective down the stretch” department, both Adam Boqvist and Lucas Carlsson were held under 12 minutes of ice time in the game. Boqvist put two shots on net and blocked one in 11:53. Carlsson put one shot on net and was credited with two hits in 11:40.
Five Blackhawks forwards failed to register a shot on net.
WAIT! This is not the plan! Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde strike again.
How many were ready to quit watching after 2nd Tampa goal. Kubalik’s price to resign him keeps going up, along with Crawford’s case for a raise.
The strange Chicago Blackhawks.
# 8 not bad for an AHL player.
One hit in the first 32 minutes for the Hawks. They are soft.
(*He played really well*) but it was bizarre seeing Crow on his knees on the second goal and the puck was at the point, before the pass-not sure what he was thinking.
Look the lighting was with some of their players. A blind squirrel will find a nut. This teams reminds of 1998-2006 when the playoffs are out of reach they start to play good.
Still got out manhandled and worked and got lucky with some goals.
Let’s just Hope Q rams it down their throat next.
God that Lenher is a head case but I love him calling out Blowman in the media. I hope Blowman will get exposed and will get fired but really doubt that since the Wirtz family is loyal. See Bob Pulford.
My boy Kubilik at 29 goals in 60 games. YEAH BABY!
Has any player in hockey history been screwed out of rookie of the yr with 35-40 goals. You know they call it against us.
After we did shitty when we needed to do good, 2-5-2 we have split the 4 games against top 5/10 teams, 2-2. So we didnt get that 6-6-2 mark in those 14 games. These 11 games coming up were suppose to be our stretch to go 9-2.
Man those swimming breaks (2-5-2) really cut into the day.
nice win and good effort against the blues.
but the season is done and boqvist and carlsson played less than 12 minutes.
dach’s minutes (14):
same as kampf
30 seconds more than strome
1 minute more than carpenter
90 seconds more than caggiula
why isn’t he playing 18 minutes?
as much as i can’t stand nylander, why isn’t he getting first or second line minutes the last twenty games to see if maybe he learned something? they didn’t trade for this guy to be a bottom six forward.
I guess the Lightning would say,in their best Dennis Green voice,the Hawks are who we thought they were. Soft on the puck and always playing defense like they are hanging onto the edge of a cliff.The Hawks have forwards that can put the puck in the net.That is not the problem.And the game breaks open when 88 gets to play with 2 NHL linemates including a quality Center.88 is a saint for not going nuts with the weak Centers he is forced to play with until Colliton wakes up.Good to see Murphy have a response to the hits on Debrincat.
tim
as many was as i loathe bowman the top two are:
1) not drafting and developing a top pairing d-man
2) not providing kane with a real center. danault might have been that guy. anisimov definitely wasn’t.
Great win
Boys-Kubalik & Cat will be traded due to cost of Seebs/Dunc albatross contracts. Just watch. New GM has to buy out those contracts-Seebs/Dunc. Coach d scheme is stupid. It hinders transition. Bye Bye is right re Nylander. Let these horses run & attack. What the “F” do we have to lose. The inmates have got to run the asylum. Hockey is a fluid creative game-not a paint by numbers brain dead Bowman-Colliton approach.
Noonan hilarious re Kubalik.
Crawford outstanding again; what other goalie does Bowman expect to bring on next season that’s any better than him, especially at the cost? and given the Hawks’ perennial cap issues. Give me a break.
Crawford is a pro’s pro, bottom line. Could have packed it in and collected his $6M per the last two and a half years after concussion #1. Keeps fighting back. He is playing at vintage Crawford playoff level the last month plus.
First things first. Let’s hope and pray it’s not Bowman deciding anymore whether Crawford is re signed or not. That being said, if Crawford isn’t the Hawks’ #1 goalie next season, good luck.
Coach has no system, he’s a fraud! Lehner who? The Crow once again shows off his big save reputation at the age of 35!
No goals by Cagg, Kampf, Nylander, Strome, Highmore, and Carpenter (why is he even playing is beyond me)! Thx Stan! Nothing as changed thank God for 19, 20, 88, 2, 50!
Just what we need at this point in the season – a win. Now they will go on a run just to miss the playoffs by a hair. Great. Just great.
I feel a weak draft coming on, I guess I’ll have a draught.
Imagine Bowman had not signed Lehner, not signed Carpenter, not taken Zach Smith’s contract, maybe even keep Anisimov and traded away Murphy and then signed big explosive winger J.T. Miller who scored his 25th goal tonight? Just imaghine that!
Ian…Crawford a raise from $6mm at 35 yrs old? He is playing for a two yr contract at max $3mm per or cut him loose…love em but not a good business move otherwise
Bye bye Bowman…lament the Danault trade but he is a 3rd line C…need higher end skill to be Kane’s guy
Hull65…never mind…you are just an idiotic broken record. Please go away so I can read some intelligent comments
And there are obviously a lot of people on here with intelligent comments which I rather enjoy reading
Loser=whining about Bowman after improbable win over team with the second best record in the NHL in their barn.
Really Wirtz? Or is this Stan Bowman?
Tampa Bay is 5 years removed from the same Cup Finals as Hawks, doing pretty well; how about Bowman’s team? Pittsburgh 13 years in a row in the playoffs and the Hawks are plummetting (slowly but surely) back into Pulford/Bill Wirtz era territory. Thanks to gross mismanagement by Bowman. His negatives far outweigh his positives, it’s not close, the last half decade. Cherry on top was the selection of his hand picked coach who “caught his eye”, just like the D man in college he just acquired on Mitchell’s team.
The fact the Hawks won tonight is wholly irrelevant to Bowman’s slow and steady digression of the team. Hall of Fame players’ great to decent years – the last three to five — completely wasted. Supporting cast intentionally sabotaged by Bowman to get Q out the door, and I give him credit, it worked like a charm. By myself time, get a contract extension to boot. Nice.
Will Kane play at a high level until he’s 45? Toews, Keith & Crawford as well? If so, maybe you have a point. Otherwise, I’ll drop you a postcard.
Good evening.
Chuckie – do what the smart people here learned to do a long time ago. Just ignore Hull. Ain’t worth the finger exercise. Nothing we say or write can make him look more foolish than his own words.
Kubilik looks like he has the size style to be a cup deep HHNL top 9 player, Debrincat not sure yet. But why trade them to keep older players. Trade/buyout 6 and 15 instead.
Chuckie, i don’t imagine at this stage term is what Crawfords looking for anyways, think he realizes that’s not happening . Another 1 or 2 years with a decent payday likely all he wants. Can’t see 3m doing it, if things remain status quo rest of season and he finishes strong, be very surprised if it’s less than 5m per at best. Maybe a little higher.
Crawford playing amazing. What happens next season if he gets hurt? Backups are AHL grade. Get ready for another summer signing, not as good as Lehner.
Hull is alone in saying Lehner isn’t much of a goalie. All of the comments and grades from various sites are unanimous that Vegas easily won the trade. Here are CBS Sports tdl grades:
https://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/nhl-power-rankings-grading-every-teams-trade-deadline-performance/
The Hawks are thin on talent. Very questionable whether any assets received will ever make the team. Looks like another Bowman fail. CBS states what I and others have been writing: that the Hawks should have shopped more players at the tdl. That includes Strome and Nylander, if you could get decent prospects or early-mid 2nd rd picks.
Original 6. There will be trades to be made at the draft.
I have first hand knowledge that Stan wanted a 1st round pick for Lehner. But Carolina was not willing to do that. They went defense with Brady Schei.
The Hawks received lousy offers for Gustafsson. I was told Saturday night not to expect much when it came to Gus.
So Stan traded guys who were going to be gone anyways and got back Demin, a 2nd and a 3rd. Meh. The Hawks draft will come down to 4 guys: a sure fire NHL player in round one, and 3 good prospects in rounds two and three.
Craig-the cows have left the barn. Your comments are garnish…spin. The boys that comment here “see” the history, the decline, the errors in GM’ing. Panarin deal alone dooms B. Dunc& Seebs can eat spaghetti off the top of my head…still. They’re great Hawks. BUT…all those years for aging players??? Really??One game does not a season make…BUT…a few bad deals defines a GM…and a franchise.
Crows contract next year will be 2 or 3 years for 3mil with 1mil bonus at 20/25 wins another 1mil at 30/35 wins. Would be nice if you offer that to Lehner in the summer and he takes it too.
No fan of SB the past 5 years but have to give him some credit. Kubalik leads all rookies in goals and the Hawks have 3 of the top 15 rookies in points. A huge deal…..maybe not, but shows some progress.
The old line of rather trade a player a year to early rather than a year to late, that’s Crawford. Either sign him cheap or let him go this team needs long term help in other areas.
Craig that makes sense, theres a reason the Sens didn’t move Anderson or Wings didn’t move Howard sand a few others, because the market wasn’t there. Gus was a 2nd at best and with no 1sts going for expiring contracts, dropping to a 3rd us not really a surprise. Was hoping maybe for a conditional pick for performance, resigning could sweeten it but not to be i guess.
JR they already have 4.2m in potential performance bonuses now with Dach 2.5m and Boqvist and Nylander $850,000 each, so not sure if they go that route or not, may depend on whether ltir comes into play how much they want to use.
JR also if they end up with another top pick whonlike Dach makes the team next season, you’re looking at least $850,000 and most likely B bonueses too like Dach and be in 2.5m range too using up space. So any bonuses offered to Crawford would end up counting against caphit then and be no adcantage to go that route.
Only saw the highlights but was that the Dach-Strome-Saad line a thing in the third along with 8-19-88? If it was it’s about time!
Although knowing JC he’ll probably go back to Carp centreing Kane next game and 91 on top line
How long have many of us been calling for 8-19-88 on a regular basis and having 6 skill guys in the top 6?
JC has been too slow to make adjustments IMO and if he’s making any adjustments to the D scheme it’s not noticeable because it still seems to suck
a question for anyone out there who follows the ice hogs.
is it possible fortin could make it with the hawks as a fourth liner and penalty killer? they could certainly use his speed.
Count me among the few thats not a fan of Robin Lehner.
Saying crap to Vegas media on how he expected more games played in Chicago and how it was mentally tough on him. FEH!! SHUT UP ALREADY!
Instead he sulked after talking publicly aboot his contract and then went quiet in the dressing room when his team needed HIM MOST!
Then he barks at columnist John Dietz aboot his article being ‘LIES!’
The reason he was offered only 2 years is because he’s a GM’s headache.
I don’t like Stanbo but he made the right call here and got the best deal he possibly could. Not everything Stan does is wrong. This is one of them.
Good point Ian. Couple of thoughts.
With The Flower playing great I don’t see Lehner starting no more than a handful of games. Tonight should be one but The Flower is coming off a shutout. Don’t know if Deboers is as smart as JC and will sit him. Few back to back games left for them but many divisional games in them.
Also, is anyone scared that let’s say Buffalo or Ottawa or someone with cap space offers Kubalik a contract we can’t afford? I consider 3 to 4 mil our tops. Ian if you can get the threshold of what picks we get if we can’t match it please. Thinking that’s going to happen.
The hawks won last night right…????
You wouldn’t know it with all the negativity on display here….
Bye Bye Bowman,Nobody knows about Fortin because since he has come back healthy he has not been afforded the opportunity that Nylander and others have been given.Hagel is another fast forward who might provide something but he was brought up for a couple of days and never saw the ice.The signings of Smith and Carpenter along with the spot that has been gifted to Nylander will not allow opportunities to anyone to win a job by performance.
JR, if offer is over 4.34m and not over 6.23m, the compensation is 1st and 3rd picks. That is probably what would be in play under that scenario.
Fortin seemed to drop down the depth charts this season, weren’t happy with his lack of defensive play i know. Rfa at end of season, be interesting to see if his gets a qualifying offer or not.
Joey Zamboni–Its because we’ve seen this song and dance before. Again and again.
They’ll start playing well, slowly make you somewhat believe and then CRUSH!!!!! your hopes!!!
Again! And again! CRUSH!!!
But wait.
Whats this?
They won. They won again! And again. Can it be?!
NO! CRUSH!!!!!!!!!
@ByeByeBowman
I am going to the Icehogs game against the Texas Stars tonight and I will give you the scouting report on everyone on the Hogs. I, too, have been clamoring for the Hawks to bring up Fortin and let’s see how he has developed since being sent down by Coach C u next Tuesday…last year! Every time I watch highlights, I see Fortin making a special pass or scoring an unbelievable goal short-handed. Yet, he doesn’t seem to get ice time with the first liners. Our very own “horse jockey” Dylan Sikura is always afforded that opportunity. Why do they give that rag-doll so many chances? He is strictly an AHL player, and he doesn’t have one identifiable NHL skill. We should be developing guys with NHL skills, like Entwhistle, Hagel, Kurashev, Fortin, Gilbert, and Beaudin. I will see for myself tonight and report back! Go Fortin!
Tim, you post with Tim W., because someoneelse posted with Tim.
For the most part everybody here agress on everthing for what we need. Were missing about 10 players-the style that Tim/others talk about. We add that to 23man and then were good. Some of those 10 ten misin gplayers are Enwhistle Barratt. Basically HHNL top 12/top 6 players.
Crow, said when we ‘play’ hard. Wonder if he knows we coast/donot play every game regularly enough. He knows something. Lehner talls it how it is and thats good-at times but not every time. Crow, has the class and isint hiding things but is more old school in not greasing your neighbor.
Tommy Ivan,That is great.I would really like to know what Hagel and Entwhistle look like from a set of eyes at the game.Maybe a little Goalie news also to see how Subban,s competition is doing.
The only reason I want new higher ups gm crew coaches team system other is because the one they picked since 2017/roster wise hasnt worked and the 50man roster coaches team system are not working good enough for us being top 5 team. The NHL has changed enough that we need to adapt like Bowman said. Hes does it full throttle then thats good gm and crew stay, with coaches team system going and get the new identity in here.
Otherwise everybody must go, if Q did. Only because we need to. If we were a top 10 team with this 50man and team system then fine, but were not. Were a solid midtier team-with a bottom 10 record.
Keep getting top 5 skill draft players on the off yrs, which is huge for rebuild-reload, and some good role players in draft/trade/ufas.
Se need 6 FW and 4 D that can play physical regardless of 6’4 220 and plays like it, not a Hayes wanna b, or 5’10 190 when play like Shaw Cagiluga Bolly Fro.
Yea MO,Someone else was posting right behind me with the same name.Just wanted to clear any confusion up.I also found Crawfords comments on playing hard very interesting.He usually never speaks in those terms.I am quite sure he was angry about the Blues being allowed to crash his crease with no response.Kind of embarrassing when your goalie has to be the guy to provide the physical response.As they say in the NHL,its not about always winning the fight but you absolutely have to show up.
Loags – agree re Lehner post. Well stated.
Small mis-statement in the article. There was only 1 assist awarded on Kubaliks 3 goals…there were other goals that were now “UA”.
Ironic that during the part of the game when we played best Tampa scored and while Tampa played better we scored.
If the Hawks can’t move up from that #7 position in the Draft,this Dylan Holloway University of Wisconsin kid looks very interesting.Right now they have Drysdale/Defense and the Russian Goalie at 6 and 7.
Thats what I though some of those seemed snappy and not like you.
Yea I would say/think 4-8. We win like I thought we would these 11 games, 14 games ago/before the 10 day layover were looking closer to 8. WOuld need to play-do 50/50 to stay near 41-41 and help from ANA and SJ. Otherwise 6-8 seems like it.
If Ian is right after first 2-3 picks every draft player 4-15ish is about same. Then just depends on who we want and is there to select from.
That way it sort of doesnt matter if were 4, 6, 8, other. Unless its like last yr where there was a gap after top 5 or 6 players and then 7-12 were a group.
Mo concensus seems to be there is alot of close to ready talent in first 15 or so picks, so just like last year hope they get it right when their number is up.
Yes yes.
Perhaps if Stan said ,a few years ago we were rebuilding …..would that make a difference in most posters opinions of him, his choices and this team ?
Prob not because they would say he should have traded half the core, got 1sts and or good prospects from Bread Man others, more for 56, sell high buy low and add and draft top 5 picks for more then 3 yrs/times.
How does any gm do that when were playing for a 5th staright 13 14 15 16 17 top team showing to win Cup. It was that NAS when we were 1 seed and they were 8-but really they were a top 3 conference team, was when we had peaked-sort of.
So you donot trade half the core/team just because you started past peak. I would say when we saw 2017-18 go that was the time to. But still noone knew then, it was only at 51% and then 55% past peak. Yuo still should win Cups or be top team in that area 40-60-40 should be the area and we were 51 55.
Looking back that would have ben the best time, hard to see then.
Whats kind of funny is when we beat BOS in BOS there team and fans remembered one thing, they couldnt beat us in 2013. We won the Cup and and as good as they are now/top 5 team, they feel that everytime. Same with TB this game, we beat them on the road and tghey remembered one thing in that 3rd period. We won the Cup and they couldnt beat us in 2015. Even though they have had the top team in hockey since they havnt won yet/which I think TB wins Cup this yr.
Even if TB wins this yr and BOS doesnt win again for awhile-decade more. The people of those rinks will always remember that every time we beat them in there home rink. Even when they win a game there, theyll remember.
We live with DET games from past. PHI BOS TB NEXT will remember us beating them for a long time.
My question is why is Adam Boqvist playing in Chigo right now?
Boqvist played about eleven minutes last night. Should Boqvist not be playing huge minutes in Chicago or at least playing huge minutes in Rockford? The Hawks are not making the playoffs this year.
Thirty six year old Duncan Keith played just under twenty nine minutes in last night in a meaningless game. I don’t understand why Keith would not be playing twenty minutes a game max. Let the young defencemen on the team have the extra playing time, not a thirty six year old.
No such thing as development in Chicago.
stape.
100% spot on.
#27 & carlsson both south of 12 minutes while koekkoek is 17+ and maatta is 23+. dach and kampf both are 14 minutes. nylander less than 10. don’t we pretty much know all we need to know about koekkoek, maatta, and kampf. shouldn’t those four rookies be playing close to 20 minutes a night as long as they are dressing and this team isn’t making the playoffs?
blowing the first year of the elc on dach and boqvist and starting both of their ufa clocks (assuming #27 plays three more games) and moron colliton is playing them short minutes.
how did this org-an-i-za-tion come to this?
Were not mathmatically out of playoffs and coaches prob not willing to wave white flag.
We went from +4 to -1 in like 8 games. SO we could go from 0 to +7 in next 11 games going 9-2. I donot think were going to but I know we can. (if we went 6-6-2 on last 14 games then I think we would have gone 9-2 these 11 games. Not anymore becaus we were bad going like 4-8-2 or something)(Even counting the fixed BOS game still be 5-8-1).
NAS 9 CAG 9 and Everybody else is at 4/5/6. So we win games and get to 4/5/6 and CAG drops to 4/5/6 were tied with those teams for 8 seed.
The coaches will play the young players more and ahl players when we mathmactcally out and then there meaningless to the coaches.
Nice Game..good for he kids..playing the kids every game give them more and more confidence plus they will cost less when they will get their new contract in 2 years because not in their prime yet.
And will be at the Beginning of their Peak at 20-21 years old..
Kubalik! They should offer him a contract now before he reaches 40 goals ..heheh
A 4-5 year contract at 4- 4.5 millions would be a good for him and The team.
After sigh Stome at 3-3.5 m should also be good for both.
And I really would love to see that young team Make at least one playoff round…for the experience
Maybe that third period yesterday will boost their confidence and help them reach the playoff. ???
Love my Hawks and the kids that they have now ..
Hawks2010
The original .
;)
I forget when I posted it, I think before the 10 day layover-which fueled the 4-8-2 stretch.
That I fully expected NAS and CAG to start to play and be the 6/7/8 seeds. For EDM VAN to fall. Well it happned, not over yet but NAS and maybe CAG are well on there way now to being playoffs teams and could do well. NAS looking primed to win pacific division as the 7 seed. Unless VEG wins 20 games in a row or STL continued to play -5 under .500 hockey from the game 30-55 mark.
Watching the game tonight Rangers and Flyers. The announcers are talking about Panerin and how he will be a candidate for the Hart trophy, because the team is ahead of schedule improving, and climbing the ladder to success’ What have we done wrong, why are we cursed with Bowman isnt life hard enough and short
Getting top minutes could trigger some bonusees too that may be a problem. That stuff didn’t affect Q’s decisions but not so sure about now.
Stape and Bye Bye Bowman, great point about the minutes. Why aren’t they playing the heck out of Boquist, Dach, Carllson, and even bringing up Gilbert to give them NHL experience potentially for the future? I love Keith but does he really need to be playing 29 minutes at this point in a lost season?
Lehners 1st shot faced as a Golden Knight ends up in the back of the net by Dominick Kahun.
Ex Hawk scores on ex Hawk for his first goal on his new team while the other ex Hawk gets scored on the first shot he faces for his new team. Also an assist from a future Hawk.
Translation:
Kahun scores on Lehner with Vessey assist.
Tim W. Fast on the draw.
To: Tim//Tim W…my apology bud. I used “Tim” ( my name) when you had 1st dibs.So…I’ll use Tim 2. The number 2 is for Dave Logan. I used to watch him at the Old Stadium. He was a search & destroy mission waiting to happen. P.S.-Gilbert & Seeler have some Logan, Darcy Rota, Curt Fraser, Dirk Graham in them. That’s a good thing. Add Entwhistle next year and maybe we level the playing field, er….Ice.
Tim W–period, space then a capital letter. For the love of God.
Thought Tab put a tab on everybody usernames to lock them in with emails.
Tim 2, wasnt saying you were snappy in posts, just that they read more-snappy then Tim W usually posts. Cheers.
ANA and SJ heard us. They have done good and 6 and 7 is now 4 and 6.
Panarin being a Hart candidate puts an exclamation point on Bowman botching the Blackhawks. Kevin Hayes scored his 22nd tonight. Bowman traded up to get him and then let him walk. Boq, Beaudin and Dach are the only 1st rounders he has hung on to.
In the words of Hawk Harrelson, about Bowman, let’s hope we can say “He Gone”!
@ original6hawkey
i loathe bowman and and pray he is gone. but you cannot blame kevin hayes on bowman. he falls entirely in quenneville’s lap.
quenneville gave the very rough ride to jimmy hayes, brandon pirri, jeremy morin, and others in the years preceding k. hayes coming into the league. k. hayes wanted to play right away and you can rest assured he got an earful from his brother and his brother’s friends about how enjoyable it was to play for quenneville as a rookie. money wasn’t the issue. it was the opportunity to play right away and he wasn’t going to get that with the hawks.
jimmy hayes played for the hawks:
2011-2012 31 games
2012-2013 10 games
2013-2014 2 games
then traded to florida.
2013-2014 florida 11 goals
2014-2015 florida 19 goals
2015-2016 boston 13 goals
bickell
2013-2014 11 goals
2014-2015 14 goals
2015-2016 no goals in 25 games
quenneville preferred bickell to jimmy hayes. bickell had the big playoff run in 2013 and jimmy hayes was out the door in early 2013-2014 season.
hayes salaries
13-14 650 thou
14-15 935 thou
15-16 2.3 million
16-17 2.3 million
bickell
13-14, 14-15, 15-16, 16-17 all $4 million and resulted in terravainen being traded to get rid of bickell’s contract. that shit contract you can blame on bowman.
@Icehogs Recap
The best player on the ice for the Icehogs far and away was Fortin! He was always making things happen on the ice all night, looked poised, confident, and a leader. His speed was electric and his play awareness surpassed his linemates. He needs to be in Chicago. Beautiful goal and should have had two more assists. The kid is ready!
The other two players that are definite caliber NHL players are Hagel and Kurashev. Hagel reminds me of a LH Ryan Hartman, maybe a bit craftier and a better scorer. Kurashev is a bullet! He reminded me of a young Martin St. Louis. He needs some more time as his awareness and positioning are lacking a bit, but the rocket shot, speed, and tenacity are there.
Two other guys impressed me, and in fact surprised me were Gagne and Moutrey. Gagne is an excellent offensive player, a good skater for a big guy, great shot, savy, and gets pucks in the corners. A late bloomer, but this kid should be in the NHL right now and is better than some of our 3rd and 4th liners. Moutrey does everything right on the ice, but score. He has great size uses it well, great defensively, nice passer, smart, but not a finisher.
On defense, Chad Krys impressed me. Just a solid defensemen. Beaudin has excellent offensive skills, but looks like he’s 12 years old! He gets out-muscled in the corners easily. Boqvist is tougher than Beaudin. Gilbert is tough wins pucks, but he makes bone-headed passes at critical points. Maybe, he was listening to the crowd as they were razzing him pretty hard, but this kid is not better than Seeler, no way! McCashen is a big boy and plays with passion, and is a borderline NHL guy. I like him! He’s tough and a leader.
The others are so-so, including Dylan Sikura. He has some decent skills, but was engulfed by the bigger Stars players. He just doesn’t have the speed to evade when locked up, and God knows he doesn’t have any strength. There was some appreciated effort by McLaughlin and Mitchell. Wedin is a smart player, and he too should be playing on a 4th line somewhere in the NHL, as you can tell he is frustrated playing in the AHL. Nilsson is small and skilled, and should be playing in Sweden. Tuuola, nice size and gives effort, but a complete dumb ass. When slightly pressured, he is a giveaway machine. Tyle Sikura is cool, and would have been a star in the movie Slapshot!
Colin Delia is a decent keeper, and in my opinion could be a backup at best, and 3rd keeper in the AHL.
That’s it! Nice win! Also, overall this is not a big team. The big boys, sans Gagne will not be in the NHL, and Stan has built this team in his honor. All under six feet!
A note for Tim, we do not a center in Rockford either!
Thanks its nice to hear reports from the AHL-
did Entwistle not play?
Entwistle left prior game with an injury, said not serious.
Tommy sounds like Fortin should be qualified then, they have 2 normal recalls left this year, see what they do with them.
Wow, sounds like a masterful Kelley / Bowman job in Rockford. How much did we give Delia? He’ll be in the Ariona league soon or wherever Darling is? I remember some wanting Crow traded to keep Darling from Illinois? Thank God Stan was too busy making other dumb trades!.
I agree, Gilbert is not an NHL player, hockey IQ non existent.
I think Kurashev is the only prospect that has a chance but with his small size, they should keep him at center because we already have smurfs who cannot win the puck off the bigger elite teams in the NHL ! Like his hockey IQ. The rest of the prospects will never make the NHL….Sikura…that Bowman smoke screen hype remains my fav car salesman job ever by Stan. The beat writers in Chicago should ask him the simple questions? How many players have you drafted are in Rockford? Where are they ranked those few in the top 100 prospects of the NHL? Answer is 200!
Fortin, another undrafted brother like Highmore and Cagg, who is a good skater but has no hands… Which is why he was undrafted Mr. Bowman! Focus on drafting NHL prospects in the first 3 rounds (including skilled and big sized wingers, a goalie, a center, and dmen who are big but can skate…not like a Vlasic who is slow for the NHL)
Hagel up on an emergency recall, still have their 2 normal recalls left, may want to give Rfd a shot for playoffs though.
Smith back surgery out for year as is Shaw now officially.
I do appreciate the irony when Hull65 says someone else’s “hockey IQ non existent”
@ original6hawkey
i loathe bowman and and pray he is gone. but you cannot blame kevin hayes on bowman. he falls entirely in quenneville’s lap.
quenneville gave the very rough ride to jimmy hayes, brandon pirri, jeremy morin, and others in the years preceding k. hayes coming into the league. k. hayes wanted to play right away and you can rest assured he got an earful from his brother and his brother’s friends about how enjoyable it was to play for quenneville as a rookie. money wasn’t the issue. it was the opportunity to play right away and he wasn’t going to get that with the hawks.
jimmy hayes played for the hawks:
2011-2012 31 games
2012-2013 10 games
2013-2014 2 games
then traded to florida.
2013-2014 florida 11 goals
2014-2015 florida 19 goals
2015-2016 boston 13 goals
bickell
2013-2014 11 goals
2014-2015 14 goals
2015-2016 no goals in 25 games
quenneville preferred bickell to jimmy hayes. bickell had the big playoff run in 2013 and jimmy hayes was out the door in early 2013-2014 season.
hayes salaries
13-14 650 thou
14-15 935 thou
15-16 2.3 million
@ tommy ivan
what a great recap. thanks so much.
gives me a warm feeling knowing that last summer bowman picked up smith, carpenter, shaw, and nylander to clog up the chain and keep fortin, kurashev, and hagel from getting opportunities.
sorry to all. somehow posted my kevin hayes and bickell rant twice.
Thanks Coach Ivan.
You are all welcome. It was a good atmosphere and nice to rub it in to the Stars fans when we won. A couple of things, Fortin’s stick-handling and hands have gotten exponentially better than last year. That is what I meant when I said that his confidence has grown. I also, do not want to blame Bowman for keeping Hagel, Entwhistle, Fortin, and Kurashev in Rockford most of this year. They needed the seasoning. But, now they are ready to play for the big club, so don’t block their path going forward. We need some size on the back end, and we need some centers. We will be garbage until we can roll out 4 competent centers. IMHO, Kurashev is a winger, but don’t worry, that kid is tough, strong, and built low, he will get pucks out of the corners. I like that kid!
Kurachev is not a center?
I have always had good vibes with Kurachev, just like Kubilik.
Barratt is center I think, so he like Shaw.
I am not sure, those players prob good that they are there for this yr/most of it. Be good to get som egames, not 82 though. So good that they developed.
92 is the player that clogged a spot for which ever FW in rockford that is ready or at least ready for more then a couple games. 92 is the player that was given the Hayes-ondemand snooty. 92 not going to say no, but.
It doesnt really matter unless these guys/other young wavers are ready to play 40/or 82 games. Everybody always says hey devlop for a little while then when ready.
Thanks for the minors action on farm team.
I like Bicks and how he was huge in 2013 and won 3 Cups along the way. he is not a 82 game goals/points performer. Hes a playoff beast and ‘plays’ about 40 of the 82 games a yr, in his style, because if you do that for 82 games you get hurt and miss games. Just need to be healthy for playoffs.
Bicks are the kind of players were missing right now and need to get back.
Mo if Shalunov is signed he has been playing center again this year, so.could be a candidate as a 3rd offensive line center too. Plays a power forward type of game.
These guys are right,w e need more good centers/faceoffs. When were had dynasty rosters-during salarycap era, we had 3 good faceoff centers. That way we were skiing downhill, not uphill crosscountry after every faceoff. We get two good centers and it makes a huge difference.
Those yrs we had 11 or 26 and 16, along with 65/10 getting 50%. So not to specific nitpick the % just two more good centers/overall and then were rolling 4 lines. Same thing with the puck moving-skaing out of zone on yuor own/ala 51 to break out. Makes a big difference.
We want to have weight on shins not tripwire or heels. Then other team stays honest or else.
Mo not sure what Shalunovs numbers are but he is supposed to be decent on fos.
Thanks Tommy.It sounds like McCoshen has leaped ahead of Gilbert.Something is going on with Fortin. He has not been given an opportunity since getting healthy.The soft Hockey media here never mentions him either.With Mitchell coming it sounds like Beaudin is going to be barried.Sikura should be moved as part of a bigger deal as a throw in.If Bowman stays I am sure in his mind that the Hawks are all set at Center with his liking of Strome and Kamph.
Got to be better then the 45% territory. 48-50 is fine, 50-52.5 is real nice. The size and speed is important and that style of play.
With Kurachev Barratt and Shalunov and other we could be adding an entire line with size that can skate and nail the bastards. Just what the doctor ordered.
Mo, Shalunov got the size and speed with the skill to go with it, the biggest question against him, has been his heart, only plays when he feels like it.
Faceoff wins are huge and Toews again is in the top 10 in the NHL. I’m not suggesting Kampf should remain long term but we should not overlook his 52% faceoff winning percentage. He’s good on faceoffs, he hustles, and good on the penalty kill. There was a great article recently about how the Hawks turned around their penalty kill. Last year, they were dead last and had the worst percentage in the last 30 years. This year they’re in the top ten and were as high as 5th I think. Carpenter is a big reason for this. Carpenter’s career faceoff percentage is right around 50% though it’s currently at 43.3% which is very low for him. Our faceoffs haven’t been our problem this year and running off Carpenter without having a plan in place for the penalty kill is a disaster waiting to happen again. We need bigger forwards that can check and skate as well as bigger d-men who aren’t afraid to take the body. The NHL has changed the way it plays in the last few years and Bowman has been late to figure it out. I would like to seem them pick up a guy like Wayne Simmonds (don’t know if he’s even a FA) in the off season.
It’s the totality of all these players that is the problem. Too many are 1 trick ponies. Kamph wins faceoffs but kills whatever line he is centering.Ca?penter kills penalties but is slow and soft and another line killer.Nylander passes the puck well and skates but he does not go to the net and does not finish along with being soft in the defensive zone.Strome can pass and plays ok on the powerplay but he is slow and soft on the puck.You add it up and it’s just too much to overcome and be successful .
Keith should only see 12 minutes per game…. Saad outta play with Carpenter & Smith (when & if he returns) for the new 4th line… Lets see how many goals he scores…Save better players for Toews & Kane.
Went to Tampa Game… Louder when Hawks scored than when Tampa did…
Hopefully this team gets “cleaned up” this off season… too many Softies who are playing for themselves & going thru the motions…Crows is a Beast !
Tim, makes sense. Krugs was as good as he was and was better because he had other good players on the line. Besides the things you said, were not Cup HHNL-top 9 deep so that makes it worse then better for each guy. Remember how in uniseen the 4th line looked in 2009 2010 2013 2014 2015.
We need that kind of cohesiveness. Sort of like pinball. Dump in it-pull the lever silver ball bounces around in zone/cycle again again again again again. Then every once in awhile one pass bang good shot on net/goal.