Kurashev Highlight Goal, Lankinen Perfection Beats Red Wings
After taking the Red Wings for granted and playing to an overtime victory on Monday, the Blackhawks were hoping for a better start. Coach Jeremy Colliton welcomed both Adam Boqvist and Ryan Carpenter back to the lineup and once again rolled with seven defensemen.
Kevin Lankinen was back between the pipes in front of a national television audience.
Would the Hawks respond with a stronger effort early?
I’ll be honest. I took a nap during the first period.
There were offsetting penalties on Troy Stecher and Dominik Kubalik at 3:46 into the game. Strecher was guilty of tripping Kubalik; the Hawks forward was guilty of selling it a bit too much.
Nothing happened during the 4-on-4 action. Or for the rest of the period for that matter. Jonathan Bernier got the start for Detroit and he looked terrific but wasn’t tested as frequently as the Blackhawks would have liked. After 20 minutes, both sides had nine shots on goal and nothing to show for it.
The second period began with a parade to the penalty box. Pius Suter went to the box 68 seconds into the period and, not surprisingly, Detroit did nothing with the advantage.
Stecher went to the box again at 5:19 but the Hawks killed their own penalty when they had too many men on the ice. Chicago was starting to generate better chances but hadn’t broken through.
Yet.
When Valtteri Filppula went to the box at 10:12 the Hawks were starting to put more pressure on Bernier. But it was a rookie taking matters into his own hands that changed the score.
Philipp Kurashev made a highlight reel move through the Detroit “defense” and tapped the game’s first goal through Bernier’s legs, eliciting awe from the broadcast crew and those watching the game.
Lankinen picked up his second assist of the season on the goal; Duncan Keith had the other helper.
Chicago would get another power play later in the period but couldn’t get another one past Bernier. After 40 minutes of hockey the Blackhawks held an 18-17 shot advantage and 1-0 lead on the score board.
Lankinen made some big saves in the opening 15 minutes of the third period to preserve the shutout, but Lucas Carlsson may have made a game-saving play when he blocked a shot at a wide open cage with Lankinen off the side with the clock showing 4:30 left in regulation.
how is the goalie literally the furthest player on the ice from the actual net pic.twitter.com/kx7V41VtcD
— Dimitri Filipovic (@DimFilipovic) February 18, 2021
Detroit spent a lot of time skating in circles and missing each other with pass attempts. They’re a legitimately terrible team on the offensive end of the rink.
With 57 seconds left in regulation Alex DeBrincat found the empty net to extend the lead to two. Detroit was trying their hardest to put pressure on the Blackhawks’ defense but they weren’t capable of completing much, if anything.
Lankinen stopped all 29 shots he faced to earn the first shutout victory of his NHL career. Bernier was solid on the other end of the ice and deserved a better decision… but the Red Wings suck.
Boqvist had two shots on net in 12:50 on the ice in his return from COVID protocol. Carpenter led all Blackhawks skaters with five hits in 14:55 in his return as well.
Nikita Zadorov had himself a night. In 20:40 he was credited with three shots on net, a team-leading four blocked shots and one hit. Calvin de Haan led the Hawks defensemen with four hits.
DeBrincat led the team with six shots on net and two takeaways.
Great elite play by Kurashev!He was rewarded with about 10 minutes of ice time.The Hawks lack of any Centers is rearing its head.They of course got horsed in the circle but beyond that they don’t create any sustained zone time and do not possess the puck longer than a rush up ice.The Ghost Train tonight contained Soderberg,Janmark,and of course Strome,his Stat line is embarrassing and he did absolutely nothing in his well earned 12 minutes of ice time.Zadorov was very strong with his zone coverage and shot blocking tonight.I will state the obvious.The Hawks need a few big bodies to knock people off pucks and punish opposing D men.Leave Reese Johnson in the lineup for a bunch of games and let’s see him provide a little physicality to this lineup.Nice Shutout for Lankinen!
I know you cant look at it this way after first few games were 9-2-4 for a large amount of rookies team. To think we would start 9-2-4 people would have said your nuts even with 50 20 77 19 5. Even though we knoew we were a little better then last couple yrs except for three AHL goalies.
Season is for young wave to get games lots of games and higher/better comp min.
Even though it usually is better to have the NHL established player and not trade for picks.
This is why you trade for picks/know when to hold em know when to fold em.
Hartman for Beau and Kurachev.
Thought this was Zadorov’s best game, as Tab’s summary illustrated..not sure how he only got credited with one hit, I thought he did a really good job of taking the body a lot tonight..freed up Beaudin to swoop in and move the puck out..and I like that Zadorov started putting some pucks on net that were actually getting through..more of that please..
Not much to add to Kurashev’s goal..an elite move through traffic and great stickhandling to finish..I’ll continue to say it, but he and Suter have top six upside..whether they play in the top six next year or not, they’re going to be difference makers..and if they’re on a third line, then that should be a good sign of our depth moving forward..
Even though it was just Detroit, it’s pretty sweet to be winning these games without Toews, Dach, and Nylander..now without Murphy and Shaw too..for a team that’s rebuilding, this team has some decent depth..seems there is always someone ready to take on minutes..
Yes, this team will struggle all year at the dot..I suspect if Bergeron were out for the year, Boston would too..and if O’ Reilly was out for the year, so would St. Louis..losing our number one center and then struggling at the dot isn’t a problem that would be exclusive only to the Hawks..regardless, this is why it’s even more essential to defend and clear pucks as a group of five. For the most part tonight, the Hawks did a decent job..for the stretches when they didn’t, Lank bailed us out save for the one moment late where he lost his net.
agree Morrison..as tempting as it is to try and hang onto Soderberg, Carpenter, or Janmark, if a pick is available at the tdl, you take it..Hartman netted us Beaudin and Kurashev and when we traded Shaw originally, that netted us Cat and Krys..the nhl draft, to a large degree, is about volume..after the first 7-8 picks, every team probably has a slightly different board and there is definitely variance with regards to who each team values..if you can get extra picks, take them and hope the volume allows you to hit on a few players..
Lankinen blankinem
The kids are hanging in there just enough to get the few scoring opportunities they need, and so far can’t argue with the results
The extended D-zone time was just painful tonight, couldn’t get the puck out to save their lives sometimes, but it’s also true that there weren’t a lot of Wings who ended up lost in coverage — it seems like that’s a big difference from last couple years
Zadorov is getting better and better in the last 3-4 games after a slow start and will eventually find his Game with the Hawks some players needs more time then others to adjust to a new system and new group.Glad for him and for the Hawks.
Kurashev …..nice Fast move like when he was with the Rempart in Quebec .he will be a 50 pts per year with the Hawks .
Lankinen is really like the guy we saw at WC in 18-19 , calm and good positioning.glad that he has is first shutout in NHL
We miss Jonhson tonight but the Hawks won another game.
At this pace the Hawks will have the number 18 – 20 pick but I really love to see them play and having fun.
Every game you have one or two kids that come out strong for the team
Now let’s get ready for the Hurricanes who just lost tonight.
JC coaching staff doing a great job .
I know you guys know so other s donot get took to the pts in standings were not tied with TB CAR FLR for 1 2 3 seed were closer to 5 6 seed. Those teams are 8 7 7 over .500 we are 4 and DAL is 2 and CLB is 1. So that is around the 8 seed in conference.
Still nice very nice to get excited about young wave because we still have more good players coming. Also adding that Euro player and if we do we prob can expect another good player from Euro in next two yrs again. Loading up with upside players.
Boqvist, Carlsson and Beaudin all played 15 shifts. Once again, excellent job coaching and evening out the minutes in Murphy’s absence.
On that note, Beaudin is now carrying the puck into the neutral zone with much more poise and confidence. Plain to see.
Carlsson defends really well with that long and active stick and makes some nice poke checks.
Boqvist looked like he was liberated to carry the puck like crazy tonight. That’s a very good way to get him going. Very smart to put him in offensive situations and let him wheel.
This team is really adopting Colliton’s mantra of playing “relentless” .
There is a true desperation and urgency to every shift.
Fun to watch.
#peskyHawks (that’s what deHaan tweets)
Boquist had a positive impact in his TOI – he’s an elite passer – was creating in the O zone and no obvious blinders in the D zone
I know the Hawks lost the FO battle but didn’t Kampf win a key draw in the DET zone with less than 2 minutes left that took 15 secs off the clock and eventually DCat potted the ENer – that was good
It seemed like CHI had more HD chances although DET had more zone time – the Hawks stuck to their coverage pretty well
Great to see Lank with the shutout
I’d rather see Johmson or Wallmark than Carpenter but I get that he needs to play to have trade value and he is a good PKer
Got a win from a well deserved and much needed shutout by Lankinen combined with highlight reel pp goal by Kurashev. Played pretty well defensively, obviously started with Lankinen though, minus a few bad clearing attempts and a couple if momentum building penalties. The kids are alright. Nice game from Boqvist for 1st one back after 3 weeks, robbed of a goal on a nice give and go read with Keith, getting in the offense good, drew a penalty, held his own on defense, excellent possession nos., something to build on hopefully. Like the way Mitchell and Beaudin are thinking the game, getting more confident every game. Young forwards taking turns stepping up and noticeable every game in mostly good ways. Lankinen wants to be the guy and no reason not be confident he will continue to be.
Mo if Zhafyarov lives up to his billing, he has potential to have a Hossa type impact. Not saying he’s going to be that good without seeing him or that will get the that type of contract but imagine in the summer of 2009 if the thought was why sign somebody who will be 31 by mid season and block the youngsters from playing.
Wrap that is something that should be documented about fos, not always about how many fos you win as it how you do in with game on the line and more important type fos. Wonder why they don’t show that with all the analytics now. Pretty sure teams would know that.
This is off topic, but I have two questions for everyone, Tab included if he would like to weigh in. This is only a thought exercise for the upcoming expansion draft, but if the Hawks were able to convince Seabrook to waive his nmc, the Hawks could then protect Keith, Murphy, Zadorov, and Carlsson..but it would mean exposing Hagel, Kampf, and Nylander(I’m assuming just for this question that the Hawks will protect Toews, Kane, Cat, and Strome). When rebuilding a team, who is more important to the Hawks, Hagel or Carlsson?? Hagel seems like the perfect energizer bunny who probably doesn’t hurt you no matter what line you play him on..the swiss army knife type of player every team is looking for come playoff time..however, young defensemen are the most important building block of any rebuilding nhl team besides a number one center, and Carlsson has become, quietly, very effective..so if it were up to you, who goes?? And my second question, is it worth throwing a 5th round pick to Seattle to steer them towards another player (Carpenter, DeHaan)..keep in mind, the 5th round is where we took Marcus Kruger and Andrew Shaw, so while usually you don’t get a roster player out of the 5th round, it’s not impossible..or to put it another way, are Hagel and Carlsson together providing 5th round value?? Would you burn a 5th rounder to keep them both?? I would say yes but I’m curious as to what others think..thanks…
Tough decisions to make on playing time when Murphy returns. It was fun to watch the young d-men tonight. They made some mistakes but played confidently with decent structure. Mitchell is playing more minutes and handling tougher matchups paired with Keith, his future is very bright.
Just shaking my head thinking that 119 players were picked before Kurashev.
I think Carpenter is unlikely to move at the deadline as he has another year left on his contract. Also, don’t we want him to be available in the expansion draft?
@ian..agreed regarding potentially signing Zhafyarov..even if this Hawks team isn’t ready to make a deep playoff run for a few years, Zhafyarov would only be 30. Who knows what type of impact he could have over the next few years. Plus, you’re able to secure him without trading any assets or using a draft pick. I see nothing but potential upside if the Hawks are able to sign him. This Hawks team needs to be more than the sum of their parts since the contracts for Toews, Kane, and Seabrook don’t allow for a huge free agent signing. That means finding the best 23 players that we can and if we can do that without using draft capital, even better. Kubalik, Kane, and Zhafyarov as our right wingers sounds pretty sweet to me..not bad at all for a team that’s ”rebuilding”..
Slayer i don’t think its a sure thing Strome is protected, maybe they go with Hagel instead and 4 D, i ‘m thinking 7 f and 3d, and maybe pick up a forward who they’ll protect if Seabrook ends up exempt because of health or maybe he waives his nmc. Your only going to lose 1 player as is. Thats how teams like Florida got burnt last draft. Giving up Reilly Smith to take Marchesault and leave Petrovic alone, can backfire on you.
MS Carpenter and Highmore meet compliancy but one the rfas Wallmark, Nylander, Kampf or Hagel if resigned before draft would meet needs too if not protected.
Slayer a quick look at capfriendly shows with 9f and 6d plus 2g signed. That includes Shaw and Seabrook, being placed on ltir after season started if needed. Come in just over 61m, so without resigning ufas, only one of Highmore and Carpenter counted and no Dehaan, have 20m to resign rfas Hagel, Suter, Kampf, Nylander, Wallmark Zadorov or Carlsson. Obviously room to sign Russian if they wish and make room even if Salary retained on Dehaan to make it happen or bought out.
Well gents, another win against a not so good team. Kids continue to play well and improve. Remember the mission. Time for some vets “maintenance days”. That would include janmark, soderberg, dehaan, and yes even Keith for a game among others. I would throw 64 and 17 in that group as well. Get Johnson some more pt, and also wallmark. Do we really know what we got unless they play more? We have 18 games left against the big 3 in the division. We will need to continue to improve. If not, Morrison may get his wish for a high draft pick.
Both goalies were outstanding – easily could have been a few more goals scored.
Hawks struggled to get the puck out of the d-zone tonight. The wings were contesting every pass attempt and way too often kept the puck in and kept their possession going. It seems the Hawks try to take the extra second by trying to shield the puck but all too often the Wings player would scrum and come away with the puck. The Hawks need to move it quicker before the opposing player can tie them up on the boards.
Kurashev didn’t get tons of ice probably because shortly after his highlight reel goal he tried a cutesy pass in the neutral zone which I’m sure was noticed by JC. I like what JC is doing by giving the players space to be creative but also holding them responsible.
slayer
a long way to go this season. come season’s end if the hawks know toews and dach will be healthy for next season i would not take for granted strome will be protected from the draft pool. especially if hagel starts finding the back of the net on a consistent basis.
Wings are playing hard so that is a good thing-the Hawks may be running out of a bit of steam, not sure I saw the relentlessness that was a hallmark of about 5 game stint a bit back. They have played 18 games. The buy in is still there. First place. lol
One thing, they aren’t a secret anymore.
To me the three surprises are Lankinen, Beaudin and Hagel, and Hagel may be the biggest, which is saying something-hate to lose that guy.
Best one i saw us Lankinene leading Lafreniere by 1 point in rookie scoring race.
First 11 games in March will tell a big story Bolts 3 at home, 2 on the road, Panthers 2 games in each rink and 2 games in Dallas during that stretch.
Kudo to Colliton. A few nights ago he has 3 rookies out there during overtime and they score. Last night he plays the defensive duo of Debrincat and Kane in the last minute to protect a one goal lead – and they score. He must be a professional.
Watched the highlights and Kurashev’s move was nice but Kane’s move on Fabri was sick.
Got the Hawks picking 13-17 with AZ infront could be as low as 12. Then we’ll catch a ping pong ball to 1!
Every team has a whipping boy. So Strome is ours. Used to be Nylander but he is out. You can see he has all the offensive skills. With a miner improvement at the dot and put a 200ft player grinder or maybe Zhafyarov on wing he’ll be alright.
Tim W and Slay- great posts
Big Z- is sometimes “bobbling” w the puck- But Hawks have been missing that element of destroying the other team’s possession w/ One single player – “eclipsing” the puck/handler. BigZ- doesn’t always hit hard- but like Chara- he just makes you go away/engulfs you. Nice to see. If it’s Not Z in 2-3 years- it will be One of the Vlasic/Krutil/Mobergs in future.
Zhaf- gotta think wearing #88- means he Loves Kane- Hawks should be favorites- if he decides NHL versus KHL
Seems like a cross between– Suter/Hagel– skill/Motor/drive
Thought Mitchell stood out last night and of course Lankinen. Kane with a couple of of Grade A chances as well, wish he would have finished those! I know Detroit blows but a win is a win in the NHL. Every game builds more confidence. Kurashev goal a highlight real for the season so far. They do need to work on F.O.’s though, that can come and haunt them with a better team.
JR,lets just go get a real Center, or maybe we have 1 in the system, that wants to play a 200 ft game and be a real player who gives consistent effort instead of trying to find wingers to coverup for Strome,s non existence on a nightly basis.How does a top Center go multiple games without a shot on goal?And he is on the top powerplay!The weekend that Detroit was here he had 0 shots on goal in the 2 wins.I digress though,he did have a whole 1 shot on net last night in a little over 12 minutes of well deserved ice time.HELL,Carpenter would be a drastic improvement at Center.
Ian,that is what is impressive about this run after the 1st week of the season.With this COVID Division setup ,besides Detroit,there are no breaks.They are playing a hard skating talented/disciplined team on a bi-nightly basis.These next 4 games will be telling.2 against the Canes and 2 against the Jackets on the road.
Ian ….Ian …
Are you serious here ? Comparing those 2 situation with Hossa (31 in 09) wow
Hossa was a elite player in NHL At the time. Zhafy Is having his first good year Ever in KHL( not NHL) …nobody knew about him 6 months ago and you comparé Hossa with him ??
Hawks where Already contender when they took Hossa Not rebuilding From scratch for getting better in 2-3 years and be contender in 3-4 years….at the time they had the kids online ( Keith-Seabrook where already at their prime plus they just had Toews and Kane plus Brower – Bick Buff …they where looking for experience
So your why sign a 31 y o and block youngsters at that time was far from the situation like we have now …and can’t compare
I don’t say Zhafy is not good but please don’t compare does 2 situation and don’t even think about comparing Hossa with him ..and the game they play …Hossa more then 10 years experience in NHL when he arrive with the Hawks..every team in NHL where begging to get him …at 6 ft2 207 pounds at 30 years old
Zhafy……at 5 ft9. 170 pounds at 27 when he arrive in the league
It’s like comparing a bulldozer to a umbrella…both have their utility but can’t compare.
Nothing against Zhafy and he might be a good player in the league but we also have a bunch of young kids getting ready in Rockford and in Junior ..that was. My point…doesn’t mean that I am right but I like the kids we have like Entswistle, Altibar.and many more. Please don’t put Hossa
And Zhafy on the same line when you write ,,,hahah
I was somewhat surprised by Colliton’s post game remarks – not that he was pleased with the effort, because I thought the effort was good, but that he wasn’t more displeased with the execution. I realize a coach has to pick his spots and sometimes a little less criticism is more effective than more criticism – and I suspect that was the case last night, at least to the public. Maybe he’ll address the less than perfect execution to the team in some constructive way.
The main criticism I have regarding execution is getting the puck out of their end. It seemed like there was less connection between the 5 players on the ice than there was in previous games and it was more or less the same in the previous game against the Wings too. The forwards and d-men don’t seem to be on the same page consistently. It seems the d-men are looking to make the stretch pass out of the zone than the safer short pass within the zone. Don’t know if that’s because the forwards aren’t making themselves available for short passes of the d-men are hesitating and missing the time to make the pass or both. It’s not all the time and the team still got the shutout so it can’t be that horrible … but … it’s a trend I hope to not see continue, especially against teams a whole lot better than Detroit.
If the choice in the expansion draft was between losing Carlsson or Hagel I think I would choose Hagel if only because it seems the Hawks have lots of young D coming and Carlsson doesn’t seem to be a top 4 D in the making
We don’t have a lot of what Hagel brings and I think by year’s end he will have developed a bit of a scoring touch and will separate himself from Carlsson as slightly more valuable
Besides if you protect Carlsson you’d have to go the 8 skater route leaving Nylander available as well – I don’t think that would be wise – I know a lot people probably wouldn’t care if Nylander left but I think it could be a mistake
If Zhafy wants to come here – sign him up – if he’s good enough to play in the top 9 on the Hawks that’s a good addition – the objective is still to be a contender not to be a developmental school
Just to clarify between Hagel and Carlsson – IMO keep Hagel
We’ve got a lot of D. New kids who look good. When everyone is healthy, who sits? Carlson, Boqvist, Beaudin, Mitchell, Murphy, DeHaan, Zadarov, Kalynuk (I know he hasn’t played yet, but supposedly has great upside). So who do you guys think will be out? Trade or Kraken bait? And I don’t think anyone should think about moving Hagel. The Hawks haven’t had a kid play as hard as this guy in years. Must keep and play on higher line. He will score.
so great to be vying back and forth about players we are excited about for the future. who to keep. what line or pairing they should play. after 60+ years as a hawks fan did not watch one entire game the last two years. now the hawks, at least for me, are must see tv once again. living in scottsdale now, recording the games, and watching between ten and midnight and wouldn’t think of missing a game. this is so great. my blood pressure was soaring throughout the third period last night. can’t wait to read the comments after every game. there are even comments on the krutil and zhafy articles. great to see this site energized with hope and excitement for the future.
Wrap…
I agree for keeping Hagel over Carlson but with a broken heart because I also really like Him as well
Also I would let Nylander unprotected because I don’t remember seeing him play with his heart and I don’t see him as a real warrior on the ice but he is still young .
Like I said before iff Zhafy wants to come here and is good …ok and iff we don’t like what he give we trade him for a draft choice later .
Tim W I agree. Hopefully Win. doesn’t make the playoffs or better yet know it won’t make the playoffs before TDL. They will be less likely to hang on to this years players and look for a refresher. I know Lowry is a FA after this year. Maybe trade Strome to Win for Lowry and we can ask for an asset due to the fact Strome locked up and Lowry isn’t. We can use Strome’s money and some of Smith’s money to give Lowry 4-4.5mil x 3yrs.
You can try and sign Danault after the season or see if Bergevin wants Strome if he sees there no way Danault is going to resign with them.
Another guy is RNH. Same scenario. Ed misses or out in first round they must blow it up. Holland there so it will be tough. Bad thing is RNH only 40% at the dot.
Cizikas from the Isles would be good to sign. Dot percentage 56 and plays big at 5’11” 195.
Many veterans as FA if you want just a face off guy and maybe he wants to run with young guns on the cheap for a year or two. The golden trophy Glendening being one of them.
I just do not see an upside to keeping Nylander in the mix. He’s my number one candidate to be unprotected, along with Zadarov. Hawks have a number of guys eager for the chance to play, like Reese Johnson, who seem to have more desire and motivation than Nylander. He’s just doesn’t impress. If he’s not playing with Patrick Kane, he doesn’t score. Bad trade, Stan.
Hawks2010 i clearly stated i wasn’t saying Zhafyarov was good as or receive the type of contract Hossa. If you remember Hossa was considered more of an offensive forward until the Detroit coaches started working with him on defensive part of his game the year before Blackhawks signed him, he perfected that part of his game with the Blackhawks in his 30s. Just saying if Zhafyarov’s billing is anything like what is being said about him he could have a major impact on the roster. He may bust too that’s why his 1st contract likely isn’t a long term one. Zhafyarov though has shown his 2 way ability, plus offensive upside when given the opportunity to play with more skilled forwards. As Tab said in his article the leadership and energy/work ethic level he brings are praised by his teammates. That’s the type of qualities that if realized in Nhl can be a major upgrade to any roster.
Enjoy some real good observations here.
I seem to remember some posts a few years ago-
predicting Kurashev would be a stud
and Seabrook would be out of Hockey in a few years
spot on
The competition for playing time/roster spots is growing. Increasingly this means no one should be gifted a spot simply because they were a high draft pick with high “upside”. 17 and 92 should take note. 27 might find himself in that position at some point. Hockey is more about snarl than upside.
As forever Hawks fan all I can say is that I’m enjoying this mix of youth. Seems the skill set across all four lines is consistent. I think that Lankinen is just “pretty good” and from my couch a little lucky at times, a little out of position at times, Like Crawford he’s a disaster playing the puck and benefiting at times from a bit of puck luck. He’s also facing a few teams that are challenged on the offensive side of the puck, Teams like Tampa and Florida are a better test. But he’s learning, playing more will help and has a good up side. He’s winning the games he has too which is actually a big deal like last night.
I also wonder if they absence of Jonathan Bryan Toews might be the best thing to happen. Seems from the couch that Jeremy Colliton has a posse of young kids that are executing his game plan consistently and not looking to a player like Toews for leadership or a locker room pep talk? It’s a more ALL IN approach reminds me a little of the Vegas Knights a few years back. Even a “wanderer” like Dylan Strome who is 6 foot 3 and over 200 pounds a big kid is playing more behind the net and chasing the puck with a wee bit more gusto.
Go hawks
Loving Brandon Hagel!
I thought 27 actually showed more Interest and life yesterday- perhaps he feels a little sense of urgency with the sudden emergence of Beaudin and Mitch.
I thought Boqvist showed more offensive aggression.
Knuckle- Agreed 17 does look more engaged playing D/behind net
perhaps– he was given a reality check- to NOT try to be the next Toews (never gonna happen/no speed) , But try harder to be the next “Handzus” use your length and positioning to be be solid 3rd C (fill in 2nd C-for short stints).
Listened to parts of first two periods on radio. Half listening I thought i heard them say boqvist was playing forward. They even cited as the reason for the too many men penalty as it confused the bench. I know they like to joke around a bit even saying it was a nice try by the coach to have six skaters , anyway can someone elaborate on boqvist playing wing?
I imagine some players are itching to get their opportunity and no better time than this year. I’m surprised we havent seen teams make trades between taxi squad players. Given no preseason I imagine lots of teams are maybe just now getting in the swing of things.
Other thing about faceoffs is look at Krugs sucked first yr less then 45 then second yr and on 55/57% wow until arm broke by some doucheknee.
So same thing for Kampf right now right he sucked first yr and since is doing what Krugs did.
Made me wonder when Slayer?/Tab mentioned Strom and Soderberg faceoffs % for 3r line center. Did those guys the same the whole time or were they like Kurgs/Kampf and had an off yr or two then did better. Because with Krugs Kampf we can forget about first yrs and go with faceoff % from then on and not go by just career total numbers.
IAN
February 17, 2021 at 11:37 pm
Wrap that is something that should be documented about fos, not always about how many fos you win as it how you do in with game on the line and more important type fos. Wonder why they don’t show that with all the analytics now. Pretty sure teams would know that.
Slayer, I would say keep Hagel Carrleson and leave 17 unprotected. In a yr from now migh be different. Worth any pick because we should be getting picks in return for tradeline players so would get 5th or higher back anyways.
MS, I really have a vibe for Kurachev Mitch Barratt. Cant explain just sense it.
Same here I watched every period intermission post interview off days everything until last couple yrs/knowing we were rebuild and it wasnt fun.
Now it is again/even if we were on pace for a top 3 draft pick because then this seasons record would happen the next yr anyways. So both are good.
What I really like is were this good/the rookies are without 20 50 77 19 5 and we ewrnt full roster to begin with with those players.
The goalie thing might be a thing that is huge and seeing lots and lots of how much? upside young wave players we have.
It was only a matter of time for the reload to take place and then game on again.
IAN
February 17, 2021 at 11:37 pm
Wrap that is something that should be documented about fos, not always about how many fos you win as it how you do in with game on the line and more important type fos. Wonder why they don’t show that with all the analytics now. Pretty sure teams would know that.
First part of my last posts was for this post.
HAWKS 29
February 18, 2021 at 10:42 am
so great to be vying back and forth about players we are excited about for the future. who to keep. what line or pairing they should play. after 60+ years as a hawks fan did not watch one entire game the last two years. now the hawks, at least for me, are must see tv once again. living in scottsdale now, recording the games, and watching between ten and midnight and wouldn’t think of missing a game.
Honest Boqvist wasn’t playing wing. He played defense 5 on 5 and he was in middle of 1-3-1 pp1 in Soderberg/ Shaws spot. Practiced there and Colliton said a way to get him in on pp. Kane and Cat on wings and Strome down low and Boqvist where Toews would be in higher slot, would have options to shoot or move puck. to one side or other and Beaudin on point. Red Wings did really let that group get set.8
On too many Boqvist went off first and Suter i believe came on, maybe Keith did too, then as puck briefly came out l thought whole pp2 unit jumped on but Strome didn’ t go off but maybe i’m wrong.
I was just looking at the Blackhawks defensemen depth and I wanted to just post a comment to illustrate something I noticed..below are the young defensemen in our system including the ”vets”..
Keith-Murphy
Zadorov-Bowey
DeHaan
Beaudin-Mitchell
Carlsson-Boqvist
Kalynuk-Regula
Phillips-Krutil
Kaiser-Moberg
Vlasic
Denim
Krys
Galvas
I many have even missed a couple, but that’s good enough for now..looking through this list, I was thinking that maybe a trade with the Kings wouldn’t be a bad idea. They have almost as many centers as we have left handed defensemen, but then I thought, ”well, they’re not going to trade Byfield, Vilardi, JAD, or Turcotte-the same way we wouldn’t trade Beaudin, Mitchell, Boqvist or Dach and they probably want to see what they have in Thomas and Madden too”. But, assuming that some of these players start reaching the nhl for them, at least a couple will probably be moved to the wing. They just don’t have enough lines to give to all these centers..now, what they don’t have is a ton of left handed blueline options..they have some right handed blueliners in their system, but nowhere near the volume that the Hawks have. So if I’m Stan, I’m talking to LA to see if they’d be interested in moving any players..maybe a Kalynuk for Kupari since he hasn’t progressed quite as quickly as some of their other young players..see if they’d be interested in dealing from a position of strength to add to their blueline..and hopefully they’ve forgotten about the Kubalik trade by now lmao..
I also find it very interesting the contrast in paths that each team has taken to rebuild..the Hawks took five defensemen and one centerman in the first two rounds for three years straight (Dach, Vlasic, Boqvist, Beaudin, Jokiharju, Mitchell) while during the same three years, the Kings took six centermen in the first two rounds of the past four drafts (Byfield, Turcotte, Kupari, Thomas, Vilardi, and JAD)..each team loaded up on the position they felt was most important/valuable..it seems that it would be a perfect fit to explore a trade between the two teams..
PS-I like Kalynuk a lot, the above is just an example..plus I think Kupari has a lot of upside that he hasn’t come close to reaching yet..he’d fit in nicely as a 2c behind Dach one day or as a 2w with Kane or Kubalik..
According to mark Lazarus and Scott powers ( the Athletics ) Hawks have not made an offer to Zhafy.
But they said many teams are interested…..
?????????
?????????
?????
SLAYER,I am glad that you put a PS on the backend of your info on the Kings system and potential trades.I personally think that Kalynuk is going to be the best of the Hawks young defense core and will be holding down a top 4 spot by the start of next season.The Kings also do not have many puck moving d men besides Doughty so I could see a deal there.
Heard a report last night that Stan is the likely GM of the 2022 US Olympic team
Good for him
Hasn’t been confirmed yet but if true it’s obvious that US Olympic committee didn’t consult with some of the posters on here
Rockford is having a rough start like the Hawks had at the beginning of the season hopefully they will be able to turn it around and win a few games to get confidence.
Regula had is first goal and Kalynuk has 2 pts so far in the year.
Blackhawks have offered Zhafyarov a contract. Hoping for Panarin magic. But so have RedWings. Let’s hope the future looks brighter to him in Chicago.
Kisal….where did you get that New info ?
Or is it the Russian info that is fake news according to the Athletic ?
Someone mentioned the Icehogs above. I see you can subscribe to an AHL package to watch the games. Looks like it’s less than $50. Is it worth it? Seems like it.
Slayer just to add to your blueline breakdown. On right side Mitchell, Boqvist and Murphy, Seabrook unknown leave it there. Bowey a depth placekeeper until Regula and then Krutil are ready to vie for spots
Left side bit more complicated. Keith who should be at tail end of his career but refuses to act like it. Beaudin who looks like fixture for the future there. Zadorov, Carlsson and Kalynuk all currently vying for a spot. Dehaan most likely be gone by next season, a trade for a pick the best case, but also salary retained, expansion draft, maybe trade a prospect if needed to get him picked or a buyout with a manageable caphit as options, one likely happens. Behind them Krys doesn’t seem like they see him as a Nhl player, Lindholm not a strong candidate to be resigned. Vlassic and Galvas closet to signing and developing in Rfd. to provide more depth. Kaiser, Philips, Creiver teenagers who show promise but a long way to go. Ess, Laavainen, Moberg this year and Demin next year need decisions on future with organizati9n made.
Official offers to Zhafyarov probably not able to be made until his season in Khl ends as leagues don’t have agreement. So could be verbal committment and not an written offers at this point, is why the conflicting reports on him.
Could someone explain how Carlsson is eligible for the upcoming draft and how you got to that conclusion? He has not burned a year of his contract. The rules in place now for him to be eligible are either playing 40 games in 2019-20 or 70 games combined in the 2019-20 + 2020-21 seasons. He played 6 games last year and not even the 10 that they use to burn a year as a pro. He’s at 15 this year and with the combined games from last year and this year aren’t gonna hit 70 total. I believe he is exempt from this draft according to their rules.
Have this guy talk t9 Bread Man and ask about Kaner. Bread Man will put in a good word and this guy can stay so he doesn’t have to worry about because we have lots and lots of cap space this time.
Nameless your confusing eligible with compliancy. Carlsson is eligible because he is in his 3rd pro Ahl or Nhl year, 2 and under exempt. Each team has to leave a defenseman and forward unprotected a player who meets the criteria you are saying of 40 games played this year or 70 last and this year to meet compliancy rules. That is designed as a bar to Seattle that each team has to make available to them.
@Ian then what is the D1 D2 of the contracts they talk about? That would be burning a year of their pro contract like being a rookies and keeping them up for the 10 games.
Trying to understand the rules as laid out make no sense but Carlsson never burned or entered the pro contract that makes him eligible. My understanding of the AHL years goes to a team trying to bury a player there to protect them so as if he played over 10 games in the NHL and kicked his pro contract in then sent him to the AHL those years are still considered NHL years.
Again this is just so confusing so thanks for any help.
Nameless it is hard to understand but i’ll try to explain as best as i can with what i know. The 10 games to burn an elc year is for every year. Ncaa players who can’t sign elcs while still play in in Ncaa can burn an elc year if they sign after their last university season ends, junior players have opportunity to play Nhl games and return to juniors.
The expansion draft rules are different than that, applied only in those years. Year elc signed triggers your path to being eligible for it. Only exception is if you have a slide year in juniors not Ahl then it doesn’t count. Hagel a good example he played his elc signing year in juniors but wasn’t eligible for a slide so it counted as his first year of his elc and towards eligibility to expansion draft. Had it been a slide year in juniors he would be exempt.
Hope this helped some, clear as mud lol.
Nameless one thing that doesn’t apply to Blackhawks Bettman made an exeption for some 18 yr olds, Middlestat was one, forget others that signed elcs at end of season 2 years ago burning an elc year and could have made them eligible because signing dates backdated. He made a special ruling they would be exempt from draft.
For those interested Cap Friendly’s website has a Seattle Expansion Draft tool with all the players for each team listed according to whether they’re exempt or not
Thanks guys I’ll look that up. Don’t want to lose Carlsson. And I can see Seattle taking a developed 23 year old defenseman.