Lankinen, Blackhawks Hang Tough, Fall To Canes In Shootout

The Blackhawks got some good news before Tuesday evening’s game: Alex DeBrincat and Nicolas Beaudin were activated off the COVID Protocol List. Both were immediately inserted into the lineup.

Kevin Lankinen was back between the pipes for Chicago; he appears to be taking a strong hold of the top of the depth chart.

Unfortunately, they were joining a roster that was hosting a really good Carolina Hurricanes roster that was also getting healthy. Defenseman Jaccob Slavin and forwards Teuvo Teravainen, Jordan Martinook and Warren Foegele all returned to the lineup for the Canes.

James Reimer was in net for Carolina.

The first period was split in two pieces. The opening 15 minutes were the Jordan Staal Show. Staal made an absolutely ridiculous pass to Andrei Svechnikov at 3:51 into the game to give Carolina a lead. He made another pretty play to set up Warren Foegele at 14:46 to extend Carolina’s lead to two.

At that point, it felt like the Blackhawks were struggling with Carolina’s speed and skill. It had been 15 minutes of Carolina carrying the majority of the play. And, as noted by Pat Foley, the Canes hadn’t lost a game in regulation since the 2018-19 season when they led after one period.

Miraculously, they didn’t lead at the end of the period. The Blackhawks owned the final five minutes of the period.

Haydn Fleury did the Blackhawks a favor and went to the box at 16:27, giving Chicago a power play. After failing to score on their first advantage, the Hawks needed this one to click.

It did.

A pretty passing sequence ended with Pius Suter connecting with Philipp Kurashev on the doorstep and the lead was cut to one.

Kurashev’s fourth goal of the season is tied with Suter for the NHL rookie lead.

Less than 90 seconds later, a bad turnover deep in the Carolina zone found Patrick Kane’s stick and one of the great goal scorers in US history handled the business end. The game was now tied.

Kane’s goal gave him 1,033 career regular season points, moving him into a tie for sixth all-time with Doug Weight among American-born skaters.

At the end of the period the Blackhawks had out-shot the Canes 15-9. Lankinen made a few really good saves; the two goals he allowed were largely credit to terrific plays by Staal.

Ian Mitchell started the game paired with Duncan Keith but finished with three full minutes less than Keith on the ice; Mitchell was the lowest ice time recipient on the blue line in the first period. Beaudin, meanwhile, got 90 seconds of power play time in the opening period.

After a pretty fun, up-tempo first period, the two teams committed to curing insomnia in the second.

No goals. No penalties. Carolina out-shot the Hawks 10-9 in the second. Lankinen and Reimer continued to play well in either net.

Mitchell had only logged 10:08 but was tied for the team lead with two blocked shots after two periods. Nikita Zadorov was credited with six hits in 11:38 through two.

In his first game back from COVID protocol (he wasn’t personally sick), DeBrincat looked like he had fresh legs. He was tied with Kane and Calvin de Haan for the team lead with three shots on net after 40 minutes.

Chicago stayed out of the penalty box for 44 minutes, but Beaudin ended that streak early in the third period. Thankfully, the Blackhawks were able to kill off the two minutes.

Unfortunately, the Hawks didn’t hang onto their lead for long after the penalty expired. The puck found Vincent Trocheck who was able to sneak it past Lankinen to give Carolina a 3-2 lead at 6:50 into the third.

For the next seven minutes, the two teams skated back and forth. Both sides had a few chances but neither team was able to get a flurry of chances.

But 13 minutes into the third, DeBrincat skated behind the net and found Dylan Strome parked in front. A pretty pass was converted into a game-tying goal off the stick of Strome.

DeBrincat and Kubalik picked up their second assists each on the goal, Strome’s fourth of the season.

Starting with about five minutes left in regulation, the Canes had a series of incredible chances. Lankinen made a number of tremendous saves to keep the game tied.

The Hawks were able to hang on down the stretch and regulation came to a close with the score tied at three.

Carolina out-shot the Hawks 17-6 in the third period. Lankinen stood tall and earned his team at least one point in the standing.

In the closing minutes of regulation and overtime, the fake crowd noise was noticeably turned up. Necessary? Nope. But it was.

Lankinen made a couple really impressive saves in the first three minutes of overtime to keep the score tied again. The group of Kane, DeBrincat and Keith was able to generate some speed up the ice a couple times but couldn’t finish.

If your blood pressure is an issue, the final 90 seconds of both regulation and overtime were a tough ride. But Lankinen continued to hang in. We got a skills competition!

DeBrincat, Kane and Strome were all denied by Reimer in the shootout.

Dougie Hamilton and Trocheck failed but Svechnikov ended the game with a nasty move in the third round.

Lankinen was an absolute star in this game, making 38 saves. His grasp on the number one job in Chicago is firm and it doesn’t appear he’s going anywhere. And this wasn’t against Detroit; Carolina had some of their better players back in the lineup for this game and he was stellar.

Strome won only eight of 27 faceoffs in the game but had some really good scoring chances. He was able to score the tying goal off the helper from DeBrincat.

The return of DeBrincat was a huge help to the offense. His fresh legs created some good chances in the third period and overtime. He skated 21:59 and finished tied with Kane for the team lead with four shots on net.

Mitchell skated only 13:53.

Beaudin, also returning from the COVID Protocol List, was put into some big situations by head coach Jeremy Colliton. He was the second defenseman on the ice in overtime. Beaudin was credited with one blocked shots and one hit in 20:01.

70 thoughts on “Lankinen, Blackhawks Hang Tough, Fall To Canes In Shootout

  1. Like the energy and skating with the fastest team in the NHL.
    Looks like the Hawks have a little something going in the right direction. Just do not like the strategy on the shootouts, going wide and slowing down so much.

  2. Good game Lankinen his the number 1 goalie for the Hawks
    Nice to see the kids not panicking and playing the coach game
    Got another point out of this game that I thought they would loose 4-2
    Love the young Hawks A nice improvement so far compare to last year.

  3. Beudin is a better player than Boqvist across the board. I don’t need to hear or read or see anymore.

    Overall a fun game to watch. Lankinen outstanding again.

  4. I continue to like Strome’s improvements from past years & Beaudin was very noticeable in 20 minutes ice time, and not in the way rookie D-men tend to be

    After the Canes were up 2-0 I honestly expected it to turn into the kind of rout that we saw in games 1-3, but our young team proved to be adaptive and resilient
    But in the end, you can’t win the shootout if you can’t score

  5. These are the positives tonight 1-10:



    Everyone else was a 6…Suter needs to play with with skilled players. That 4th line role needs to go to Reese Johnson. Too bad that Carlsson was not in tonight. Both he, Mitchell, and Beaudin and Boqvist néed to play every night.

  6. beaudin my new favorite hawk. twenty minutes tonight. pp time. ovt time. he only gets that by being responsible defensively. a few games doesn’t make a career, but so far improving by leaps and bounds. hope boqvist can find his way in a similar manner.

  7. Didnt see though without looking is Lanekin undefeated at 2-0-4 or maybe one loss that preety F ing awesome eh. Reguradless of whatever a green horn freshman pledge and looking at sority girls.

    Push off freshman!

    You the man and donot get happy yo. Were on the same side dude. 15-15 eh and then let it go baby!

  8. Beaudin running the 2nd pp unit was nice to see..he seems very calm with the puck, which falls in line with the scouting report on him..very cerebral..has a great feel for the position..where are all the Veleno fans that were screaming his name when we drafted Beaudin instead of him..just teasing..Veleno is doing fine in the SHL for now (besides, we drafted Kurashev in the fourth round of the same draft, so he’s your ”Veleno”)..but I continue to believe that cup contenders are built from the blue line out..Mitchell, Beaudin, and yes Boqvist(he’s TWENTY) give the blue line some nice upside for the, a question for the Hawks fans who have watched way more hockey than I have..assuming that Murphy is protected in the upcoming expansion draft, and I see no reason why he wouldn’t be, that would give you the following pairings for next year:
    So my question is this..ignore DeHaan for now since I’m not sure he’s even on this team next year..Zadorov is much do you qualify him for? He’s a third pairing defenseman who is physical, but not very strong on the much is the one dimension that he brings to the team (his sheer size and ability to throw his body around) worth? I’m genuinely curious..if the Hawks had Seabrook’s contract off the books, I might not mind locking Zadorov into a 3 year deal since the Hawks would have some extra cap space..but with so many rfas approaching during the Summer of 22-23, the last thing I want is to lock him up, have him underperform, and be stuck with a ”Seabrook lite” contract in addition to the Seabrook what do us Hawks fans think? 1. Lock him up to a 3-4 year deal this offseason since his physical attributes are admittedly hard to find ? 2. Qualify him for one year and see if he shows you a better well rounded game than he’s shown so far? 3. Try to move him for a pick/prospect assuming that some combination of Carlsson, Kalynuk, Vlasic can eventually give you 15-16 min a night at a much cheaper cap hit?

  9. am i wrong to think 16 is big, doles out his share of hits, but doesn’t scare the opponents or give them second thoughts about going where they want to on the ice?

  10. Its nice to see the freshman make there tie the skate ropes. Remeber guys klike Dunks Shawzer are the guy guys even though not prime head butting game winning golas on ANA/punks and Perry whos that. Team.

  11. This is fun. The kids can play!
    Carolina is good, and the boys didn’t give up. Loved it.
    So impressed with how Lankinen controls rebounds.
    Paddy Daddy Kane’s goal would have had the faithful out of our seats at the UC and going nuts.
    Not gonna lie, I am really happy Teuvo didn’t score tonight.
    Sleep well, fellas.

  12. Great game – very fun to watch these young Hawks
    Lank and Beaudin really staking their claim
    Seeing Beaudin in OT was great and he did well
    Soderberg is a disappointment so far – maybe Suter should centre 3rd line put Soderberg and Shaw on the wings and Hagel to 4th line
    Have to wait and see on Zadorov I thought he was better tonight – I see potential there 25 is not old for a D man – there’s time still for him so let’s what he has by year’s end

  13. Stef, this is why I want to add a eelite and a very good player in these two drafts because were coming no matter who lies it or not. So let get some men on the assemble line/strange brew.

    Yo Hosers.

  14. @wraparound..good point regarding Zadorov..sometimes I do forget that he’s only 25..feels like he’s been in the league a long reason to come to any quick decision since we have his rights for this year and next if the Hawks decide to protect him in the expansion draft.

  15. Very enjoyable watching this bunch play. A talented Canes team that showed why they are contenders at times against a over acheiving rookie laden depleted roster. Could have packed it in after falling behind 2-0 or in 3rd after a big pk, then falling behind 3-2 but lead by the Lankinen show, no competition in goal anymore at this point, they showed heart and kept battling. Murphy becoming a no. 1 pair guy and no doubt him and Lankinen are protected on expansion draft. As mentioned above what do they do with 16 and 44 only question now. Beaudin impressed as did most of the youngsters. Lots of positive looks for the not too distant future for sure.

  16. Coming in to this season, I thought the most important thing was to be bad enough to have a high probability to get the #1 pick in the draft so we could the biggest need which was a #1 stud d-man. That’s still our biggest need but I’m less inclined to think it’s the most important thing to be achieved this season.

    If somehow we get a top-of-the-draft future #1 d-man – great, but the #1 d-man position isn’t the only missing piece to being a Cup contending team – goalie, top-9 forward depth and basically the entire d-corps still need to be addressed.

    There’s still a lot of road to drive, but taking an optimistic view, we may have found our future core goalie (32), (2) top-9 forwards (23/24), and (3) starting d-men (27/51/74). That’s pretty damn good for one season’s work. I don’t think we’re close to being a contender yet – but at 11 games into this season we’re closer than I thought we would be at the end of the season.

    Now add Dach and Nylander into the mix next season and Reichel and our 2021 draft pick in over the next couple years and the rebuild will have made significant progress over a 2-year period.

    This is fun.

  17. With the fresh faces in the lineup that do not want to be yanked every other game this is a very different looking team that seems to adjust to the speed and skill of whoever they are playing.The Canes are loaded and their centers really took over the game in the 3rd period but the Hawks still counter punched and stayed in the game.It finally looks like they have an overtime strategy.Move Suter back up the lineup and leave Hagel up in the lineup.Reese Johnson on the 4th line with Shaw and Kamph.Beaudin is getting better each game and should remain playing ahead of Boqvist.This team is going to grow up in a hurry playing 32 games against the Bolts,Canes,Stars,and Jackets.

  18. Beaudin– looked very confident, poised, and decisive. Seems to have leap frogged both Boqvist and Mitchell in JC’s mind and so far deserves it.

    Mitchell- can play the same way- but imo- is thinking a little too much at times.
    Seems to worry about what NOT to do- instead of what to do. I think/hope he will get there.

    Boqvist- has the better shot of these 3 kids.

    But pure Hockey/IQ/ instincts go to Beaudin.

  19. How much better will this team be with healthy Toews and Dach? Very pleased with what I’m seeing so far, just wish Mitchell would shoot the damn puck a little more. Beaudin really looking like he may belong here and Lankinen has been lights out. Future looking better every game.

  20. The way Beaudin is playing right now he has to stay in the line up so what happens when Boquist is ready

    Boquist is your PP1 quarterback and it’s suffered a bit with Keith there so do you get 27 in and personally I’d keep 74 on PP2 (leaving Keith without a PP – yay!) but that leaves Mitchell out

    Comparing 5 on 5 Chances For vs Chances Against Boquist is a +4 with a 51.7 %Corsi and a -1 plus/minus while Mitchell is -2 CF/CA with a 49.5% Corsi and a -4 plus/minus

    Besides being the D man on PP1 Boquist is slightly outperforming Mitchell 5 on 5
    However you want Mitchell to keep playing – it’s a bit of a dilemma brought on by how comparatively good Beaudin has been

    Neither 27 or 51 has gotten 20 min TOI like Beaudin did last night albiet in an OT game

    Maybe you have to rotate the three of them (whoever is playing well stays in) until a D man (DeHaan or less likely Keith) is traded

  21. I have seen enough of Soderberg

    Let Kurashev Center a line

    Give Teply / Reese some more games

  22. Agree this is fun to watch-nobody can complain about pace or effort and maybe just maybe the Hawks have their goalie (seen too many start off strong to know for sure)
    Physical, relentless for the most part with 2 or 3 guys showing they belong for the long haul.
    And JC deserves some credit.

  23. Kurashev has centered the top line the last two games.

    It is promising to see the compete level against a big, fast, skilled opponent. Man I would like to have some of those Canes forwards. Defensive structure is much better than last year and young forwards have a lot to do with that. I think internal competition is going to dictate playing time which is a situation we haven’t seen in some time.

  24. With Janmark, Soderberg, Pirri, Smith and Tomkins as ufas next summer, unlikely any of them a part of next years Nhl roster. Rfas Hagel, Suter, Kampf, Zadorov Carlsson, Nylander and Wallmark on Nhl roster to make decisions on, either resign or qo if not trade or let walk. Possible one of rfas is picked Seattle, only Suter is exempt. So no risk to lose anything significant this summer. Summer of 22 some big decisions, ufas Murphy, Dehaan, all 3 goalies on Nhl roster, Shaw, Carpenter are up. Lankinen, Murphy are the only likely resigns on that list. Rfas Dach, Kubalik, Boq, Strome and Kurashev get resigned and decisions on Highmore, Johnson, Kalynuk, Entwistle, C. Morrison and a few others in Rfd. need to be made. Mitchell, Regula, Beaudin, Teply, Barrett, along with the old core and Debrincat up in 23. Seabrook in 24 but a big ? where his his future lies. Throw in Reichel, this years no. 1 maybe and Vlassic in mix by then and a few elc candidates in Saarela, Slaggert, Kayumov, Krutil and Kaiser plus maybe 1 or 2 more in system show some potential. By the end of next season and heading into 22-23 season things be pretty interesting to see what roster will look like. Obviously next season extending some players, Dach, Lankinen, Murphy, Kubalik and Boqvist to name a few, before end of next year could be a huge part of all this too watch for.

  25. It’s one thing for me to be all Pollyanna and cheery – it’s what I do – but when everyone else has this sunny disposition I get worried. Paraphrasing the old axiom “when I think things seem too good to be true – I’m usually right”. And then comes the hard slap of reality.

    But what am I to do about it? I can’t regulate my feelings with false negativity any more than I can fool myself to believe false positivity. I see what I see and I genuinely think things are going very well – better than expected. I suppose the only thing I can do is remind myself to keep it all in perspective – which is what this post is doing.

    I don’t care what I say – this is fun. :=)

  26. Whoever goes to Ahl its not a bad thing or saying they aren’t good enough. Getting minutes at Nhl level not possible for everybody. At this stage of development playing in Rfd. for a little bit can be huge help. Beaudin appears most comfortable in a small window, Mitchell undoubtedly going to be a very good dman is still adapting to playing against bigger faster players and once he gets his confidence, the skys the limit. Boqvist has played almost exclusively in high leverage situations and the stats seem pretty good, even if his growing pains are frustrating to watch at times. All good, enjoying it more every game.

  27. Were 3-1-4 since Lankenin started and he is 2-1-3. Were still looking good with him being 15-15-change. Ill take lots of ties if thats what we need to get that gem in the draft.

  28. Lets wait until next yr to find out so we can add another gem to the young wave. We can see how good its going to be so lets make it even better by adding another 77 to the roster in this draft.

    February 3, 2021 at 7:47 am
    How much better will this team be with healthy Toews and Dach?

  29. I think we will not see Seabrook next year ..he will Probably retire After getting his. Full salary for. This year (insurance will pay ) or maybe he will come back for A few games before taking his decision.
    Glad that Crow took that decision and hope we can see him in the Hawks organisation in 1-2 years .
    Shaw has to go ….we don’t need him anymore and he still take stupid penalties like a few games ago again.
    We have to focus on the kids that we have now
    And iff we can move a few players at the deadline for draft pick it would be extra for us
    Hagel is one of the future …like last year with Rockford he had a slow start but was working like a real warrior and he became a top player by the end of the year .
    I think he will start to score soon And when it happened it will be the beginning of a nice story for him and the Hawks .patience with the kids

  30. wrap.

    hawks aren’t playing for this year. for my money, if their play does not drop off, 27, 51, and 74 are in the lineup every night and each playing at least 18 minutes. 27 & 74 running the pp. if anyone is going to be rotated let it be 2, 16, & 44. maybe 5.

    unless something very strange occurs 2, 51, and 74 will be here next year, they are the high picks. they must play.

  31. Mo there will be some ggod picks go high for sure and this year there likely will be more busts in top 5 or 10 then usual. Look at last draft, had Blackhawks picked 9th as originally slated, Askarov was who they said was targeted. Well if Lankinen works out like he is showing so far, with Reichel, and potentially another high piece vs Askarov and who has a ton potential but was overwhelmed in wjcs again this year, maybe not as high a ceiling as being projected, who knows, plus a top 3 pick in a crapshoot type draft this year. Kinda like the known i see there and less risk to deal with right now. Of course if Askarov becomes a hofer and a generational player was landed this summer, no way you can measure what it would’ve meant, just have to make the best of what happens.

  32. Hawks29 – agree we want 27. 51 and 74 playing but you can’t sit a veteran just to get kids playing time – you’ll lose the room that way – players know who deserves to be in the line up

    Based on an admittedly small sample Beaudin seems currently to be the most comfortable defensively and JC seems to agree and 27 quarterbacks PP1 and still IMO has the highest offensive ceiling plus has held his own 5 on 5

    So that leaves 51 – you can’t put him in over 44 just because he’s young plus you want 44’s trade value to be maintained
    So what do you do – does one of young D eventually go to RKF or do you rotate the three until there’s a clear separation between them or there’s a trade of a D?

  33. Ian, yea I am not as worried as before as having to have a top 3 or 5 pick player. Like yuo said it can work out in different ways not just one way/like top 5. I just want to make sure we get the right guy and is elite player. That is a must/elite player. So if that means we get an elite player from the 6 7 8 spots ok.

    I want elite.

    And Lankenin I like because he kicked ass in world juniors that Askorov guy didnt.

  34. If it’s verbotten to sit a veteran d-man so that it then comes down to a game of musical chairs where there is only 2 chairs remaining for the 3 young d-men – don’t despair – add a chair.

    I’m not generally a proponent of the 11-F / 7-D alignment, but if there’s any lesson the last 12 months have taught us it’s that the old normal has gone away so you better adapt to the ever changing new normal.

    To review: the primary objective of the 2021 season is figure out which young players are keepers and then to get them as much game time experience as possible. This is especially true of the young d-men in the hope that the experience they get this season will be a good first step in rebuilding the d-corps into some semblance of a Cup contending blue line.

    The 7 d-men lineup would keep all three of 27/51/74 in the lineup which could reduce 2’s minutes and keep his legs fresh for every shift he gets. It could also be a handwriting on the wall moment for him if Colliton decides to let the 3 young guys QB the two PP units – as in – “hey Duncs, you’re now officially in mentor mode so your pop gun shot is no longer needed on the PP – now go sit down and shut up”. It seems like the 7-D lineup would be a good solution.

    But at what cost (you ask)? The answer is “a very low cost”. Obviously the cost is 1-F, but if that forward is a guy that is not part of the rebuild and up till now has contributed zilch – than removing that forward from the lineup seems more like addition by subtraction rather than a real cost to pay. Yes, I’m talking about #34 Soderlund. Re-swizzle the forwards so #’s 23 & 24 get the minutes #34 would have gotten and it seems like a no brainer win-win to me.

  35. oops – Soderberg – not Soderlund. I’m getting my Swedish surnames mixed up – lunds and bergs and stroms and ssons … oh my. :=)

  36. ER – yes good solution – hadn’t thought of that although I should have because JC’s already done it at least a couple of times this season

    I would be ok with 34 sitting for 7D but it’s more likely to be Highmore

    We’ll see what happens

    Btw how is it possible there is an optimism for the future with this young group of players when the Hawks have not only the worst GM in the league but also the worst coach? Something does not compute

  37. EB would have no problem if the 7d approach was applied as meantime solution. Even it was only in some games just to prevent less sitting time for 27, 51 or 74.

  38. The same thing happened in 2009 2010 2011 most of the players we didnt draft they were from trades from players we couldnt keep after 2010 salary cap wise.

    So those players like Morin wernt th e good propsects we drafted. Then the guys that we draft started to come in around 2nd 40 games of 2012 like Shaw. The good prospects.

    So same thing here the players we did draft in 2015 2016 2017 wernt the good ones. Its was the mroe recent drafts were we had full rounds of drafts and 1sts where we got players like the good prospects that are starting to come in now.

    We have a lot of good young players coming it just was a matter of when the good ones were ready. Like Horsemen and others.

  39. Ohh and by the way hows that Hartman trade looking. Who did we get Beau and Kurachev?

    Yea baby!

    And we havnt even seen the start of how good they are going to be.

  40. When people said the cupboard was thin/was none. They had to be referring to those other dfraft yrs because at that point none that came in were really good. Now were seeing the start of the good ones start to come in and likey.

  41. Mitchell is going to be a solid NHL player for a long time. Beudin is distinctly better than Boqvist. I’ve seen enough out of Boqvist to pass judgement. He’s bad. Bowman made a massive screwup with the high pick used on the kid. He does not have a NHL future. He will invariably be a guy who bounces around in the AHL and gets called up once in awhile.

  42. I’ve only seen maybe fifteen sporadic minutes of the past couple games but I have to say Soderberg for being on a new new team and just playing his first few games, well, I’ve seen more positive things than negative. Speaking of boobirds keith had quite a few high quality plays in the time I watched.

    While praise is going toward coach jc for success, I’ve been listening to interviews and it seems to me coach jc is listening to the players more these days….sooooooo, not quite all him. Whatever the hockey I’ve seen is mostly entertaining minus those stand around in your own zone whole both teams change lines…..
    I love debrincars desire to compete, if hr had a few more inches and size he would be a top player in the nhl.

  43. As ole Sly would say – different strokes for different folks. For me, I’m not passing judgement on a 20 year old with a little more than half a season of NHL games, especially one who has shown very good offensive skills and instincts at lower levels. Not to mention the poor asset management it would be to write off the investment of a top-10 draft pick too soon.

    I understand the allure of leading the parade to run a player out of town – it’s fun to be that guy out in front with visions of “told you so” bouncing around in your head. But, sadly, I’m more like the guy at the back of the parade with the big push broom cleaning up after the elephants. :=)

  44. So … when things aren’t going well – it’s JC’s fault, but when things are going well it’s because JC is listening to the players so it’s not really him doing anything well … well, except maybe he listens well and does what the players tell him to do.

    Got it.

  45. Boquist has played just less than 50 NHL games and some people have seen enough to judge him a bust at 2o and a career minor leaguer

    Every NHL analyst whose opinion I value says it takes three seasons or roughly 250 NHL games to see what you’ve got with a D man – it’s an extremely difficult position but I guess some posters have way more hockey acumen than those analysts

    I’ll play the long game with Boquist and hope that if Boquist enjoys a long NHL career people who misjudged him will be
    man or woman enough to admit they were wrong

  46. @ER, I was wondering the same thing about JC. The math of the blame/credit games doesn’t seem right here…

  47. Boqvist bashers

    Jokiharju 7 games 1 goal 0 assists 1 pt -2

    Boqvist 6 games 0 goals 3 assists 3 pt -1

    He will be better than the Joker career wise.

  48. We really don’t know what Joki is going to become yet either. Joki is a year older then Boqvist and played almost a full season more than Boqvist.

    Jokiharju: 114 gms, 5 goals, 23 assists – 0.24 ppg
    Boqvist: 47 gms, 4 goals, 12 assists – 0.34 ppg

    Both of them still got a long way to go before they hit their stride and we find out what they are.

  49. Look, I don’t have a crystal ball and no one else does either. Boqvist may end up being a bust and prove Live Big Barn, Iceman, and others right – but it’s mind boggling that this absolute pronouncement can be made after only 47 games.

    Duncan Keith was 3 years older (22) when he started his NHL career in 2005/06 than Boqvist was (19) when he started his NHL career in 2019/20. Keith played 81 games in his rookie season and scored 21 points (0.26 ppg) and was a -11.

    Maybe Boqvist can be given as much time as Keith had to grow himself into a NHL caliber d-man … oh wait … Bowman drafted Boqvist so he has to suck no matter if he does or not – I forgot how the game is played – my bad.

  50. Sigh…keep in mind that Boqvist was drafted as a 17 year old..if he was born 6 weeks later he would have been in the 2019 draft..also, to add a little bit of perspective regarding Boqvist and the false assertions that he’s already a failure as a draft pick-please go take a look at Victor Hedman’s first four years in the NHL..and keep in mind that he was a number 2 overall pick and had lit up the SHL before being drafted..for his first four seasons, he was a pretty good second pairing defenseman, nothing more. In his fifth year in the league, at age 23, he turned the page and became the dominant defenseman the Hawks saw in the finals. Using that timetable, this is Boqvist’s age 20 season and it’s a shortened season at could be a few more years before we start to really see the aggressive offensive zone instincts, pinching and activation that he showed overseas and in his one season with the London Knights..and I’m not saying his ceiling is Victor Hedman lol..just saying that Tampa would have felt very dumb if they assumed Hedman had shown everything he had to offer after 47 NHL games..even Dahlin is struggling this year and he was by every consensus a true, ready made, number 1 defenseman which is why he was drafted first overall (and he’s older than Boqvist too)..defensemen TAKE TIME..Boqvist will be just fine..

  51. I looking forward to Boqvist, Mitchell, Beaudin, Murphy, Regula, Vlassic and maybe throw another high draft pick in the mix, leading a 2nd wave with maybe a Krutil who they seem high on becoming one of the top bluelines in the league. I want to see them win, not trash a Bowman pick so i can be right. Maybe they all won’t develop as hoped but the last thing i want is for them to go somewhere else and thrive, become stars because the Blackhawks didn’t give them proper time to develop. Wonder what the conversation would be then lol.

  52. The notion that it’s time to give up on Boqvist would be unserious under the normal circumstances of trying to win games to make the playoffs, but this season isn’t being played under normal circumstances – the objective is to play young players to see what they can do. Why in the world would you not want to see what your top-10 draft pick from a couple years ago can do. Thinking that a fan who watches games can make the determination about a top-10 talent after only 47 games is either the height of conceit or hatred of Bowman – neither of which is a good reason to give up on a 20 year old 1st round draft pick.

  53. Nobody is saying give up on Boqvist.I am just saying let him develop his skating and ability to play at the NHL level without him being tossed around and constantly in a defensively poor position.It is not going to do him much good being embarrassed at the NHL level.If Beaudin,Kalynuk,Regala,Mitchell,etc. are more mature and developed let them play ahead of Boqvist.Watching Beaudin for a few games definitely shows that he should be ahead of Boqvist.

  54. The negative energy on this site against Boqvist is mind-blowing, as compared to other Blackhawks blog sites. I’m not sure why, but it’s venomous among this crowd. Plenty of reasons I’m sure for the venom can be discussed, but why not give him (and a few others) half a chance to surprise? It’s not like there is anything to lose. He’s on the team, under contract and the team isn’t designed to be a playoff team this year (or next.)

    There’s a woman who writes and posts on another site who is brilliant and a gem regarding advanced analytics. Plus, she knows what good hockey is supposed to look like to boot. I find her essential reading. Her advanced stats regarding Boqvist tell us that he does some things well. It’s clear JC is sheltering him with offensive zone starts and PP assignments. Overall, the view is mixed, but trending positively incrementally. I’d say her view is cautiously positive. I share this because she’s just more qualified than most here to opine on Boqvist’s development curve and he doesn’t appear to trending toward Trubisky territory.

    I think a bit of skepticism is healthy, since nearly all of these young players are about 20 years old and development curves are tricky and unpredictable. Timelines also differ. I still think most aren’t going to rise above bottom line pairings. But, organizations need those kind of players too. This isn’t meant to be a pro-Stan comment, but why not give the Blackhawks Scouting department a modicum of credit and benefit of the doubt? They seem to be doing Ok with talent evaluation. Again, what do you have to lose and haven’t they earned it a bit with Kubalik, Kurashev, Mitchell, Dach, Lankinen, Suter, etc?

    Just some final thoughts. I didn’t mention Beaudin above because I think he deserves special mention. In the same draft as Boqvist, the pandemonium that occurred here and elsewhere because the Hawks selected Beaudin was comical, if not psychopathic. All we heard about was Veleno, Veleno, Veleno. It seems Beaudin is becoming a pretty good player. The stats and eye-test confirm it. The only other topic that receives similar negative energy is JC’s coaching acumen. Well, that is still up for healthy debate, but his ability to grow and develop young players is becoming less and debateable. He seems to know what he’s doing getting these kids to improve their games, playing so many simultaneously while becoming more and more competitive. If this trend continues, he should be eligible for coach of the year consideration. Count me among those wanting the draft pick. As pleasant as this season has been so far, this squad lacks elite talent. We sort of count Dach among those considered elite, but even that is stretching it since he’s still under 20 years old. He’s still an unknown.

    So, chill. Enjoy the ride. Have HEALTHY skepticism, but tone down the cynicism. Go read anything from LBR.

  55. I think it’s a bit more of if the player is ready to play at the NHL level. Playing a young player to just play him to see what he can do is not developing him and could do more harm than good. Having him play poorly could shake his confidence more than sending him to Rockford to get more minutes and learn at a better pace than the speed of the NHL. Yep he’s only 20 so a stint in Rockford is not a career death sentence and many players have done this and then come back up and flourished. Every player is different so one formula does not fit all. I’m of the opinion that Boqvist should go back down for awhile and play some long minutes to gain confidence and hone his skills a bit more. We all know this is a throw-away season but don’t screw his career over just to see what you have, develop the guy and give him an opportunity to flourish, not set him up to fail.

  56. @Jim

    A good thought, but the advanced stats on Boqvist tell a pretty decent story. He is developing, his game makes small strides and his compete level remains high. Rockford might be better for him and it’s could still be part of the plan, but in sheltered minutes, he’s not a liability and he’s getting better, especially since having been reunited with Keith.

    LBR dropped this yesterday. It tells the story of a young player taking some lumps, but growing under sheltered guidance. His pairing partner clearly matters too.

    Boqvist has strong shot metrics so far, but much of that is due to him being deployed in the offensive zone to an extreme degree against the lowest quality of competition. It also helped that he and Nikita Zadorov were finally split up — they were the second worst defensive pairing on the team by nearly every shot metric, owning only a 45.5 share of shot attempts.

    Once Boqvist was reunited with Duncan Keith, his partner for most of last season, he settled down some and his shot attempt share jumped to 56.1 percent. Boqvist only has one point at 5-on-5, but he has the second highest points per 60 rate among defensemen at 0.83. Both his individual shot and expected goal rate were trending up before his absence. Finding the right partner and deployment for Boqvist is likely key for his development at the NHL level.

    Despite the rough start at 5-on-5, Boqvist has been making an impact on the Blackhawks power play, as documented in this article.

  57. Jim – sending Boquist to RKF is certainly a legitimate option but is it the best option?

    If Boquist has a good attitude and mental toughness staying in the NHL even at reduced minutes compared to the AHL I think is the better option

    If he’s a bit mentally fragile then gaining confidence playing big minutes in the A would be a good move

    Personally I think his trajectory is fine at the NHL level (you don’t learn to play vs NHL players in the A) but if that were to head in the wrong direction he would be well served to go down

    Worked for Kotkaniemi in MTL last year

    I think we have to trust that the Hawks know what’s best for him – they have nothing to gain by ruining his development and they have enough D men that if he were to go down they could easily fill his spot in the line up

    Incidentally the metrics favour him over Mitchell and I don’t hear any sturm and drang about Mitchell’s development and how he should be sent to the Rock

  58. Aurora Hawk – well said. I wish I could give you that icon with the hands clapping. And yes, LPR is an excellent resource.

    Jim, I’m not against Boqvist being sent down to Rockford but I think there’s a different dynamic this season that should work into the formula to make that decision. I think there are two basic reasons to send a player down – (1) the team is in a competitive race to make the playoffs and can’t afford to have d-men make mistakes while on-the-job training, and (2) the player is overwhelmed by the NHL and needs a lower level competition to grow his game and gain confidence.

    The first reason is less applicable than normal because the team is not in the playoff hunt so living with the mistakes of on-the-job training is not too high a price to pay for keeping the highly regarded prospect playing with the big club.

    That leaves the second reason for sending a player down which required more of an individual evaluation than us fans can know simply by watching games on TV. If the Hawks staff think he’s showing signs of deer in headlights and it is negatively affecting his confidence – then sending him down is the absolute correct thing to do. I’m just not seeing the deer in the headlights with Boqvist – it seems more like he’s hesitant (thinking too much rather than reacting) and he’s trying to play within his physical means by not getting tied up in physical battles he knows he has little chance to win unless it’s unavoidable. Teuvo did the same thing when he broke into the league and the shouts of him not being NHL caliber because he shied away from contact were said about him. Teuvo has blossomed into a pretty good player … just saying.

    Being too quick to judge doesn’t mean you won’t be proven right – only that you’re making your judgement before all the evidence is in.

  59. Just a couple of things the Blackhawks had league’s no.1 pp when Boqvist was healthy on the point on it, think about that. As for comparisons, most even strength goals against by a wide margin so far this season, leader is Quinn Hughes with 20, next is 15.

  60. For those counting on Vlassic to be a part of our future defense core, there are a lot of opinions out there that he may not have what it takes to be an NHL player. Struggles with processing the game at full speed, he is only a 2nd pairing guy on Boston U team.

    On the other hand, Drew Commesso, our 2nd round pick this year in goal, has had an outstanding start to the season, and as a freshmen has already established himself as a firm number 1. He is 5-1 with a .917 save pct. and earning rave reviews about how quiet his game is, he just reads the play and stays in the right position and lets the puck hit him.

    So between Lank and Drew, the future appears bright in the net. And we do have a ton of prospects on the blueline, and hopefully continue to use this year to sort them out and figure out who has a future as an NHL player besides Mitchell, Beaudin and Boquist, if any of them.

  61. Hereismike both Vlassic and Comesso especially are a long way off and alot of things can change. Heading onto this season Lankinen wasn’t considered to be Nhl calibur goalie and Beaudin wasn’t ready for Nhl yet. Remember Tyler Motte who has become a fine Nhl player, who until his final Ncaa season wasn’t even talked about as a future Nhler. Everybody was waiting for Dylan Sikura’s arrival and that didn’t pan out at all. We just have to enjoy the process, wait and see what they become. The old saying believe half of what you see and nothing of what you here is good guide to follow for a reason.

  62. Lots of good posts on Defensemen. This here is what we want so that poeple arnt in over there heads. Be 3rd pair if thats where you fit for now. Not agsint other teams top lines and stuff. Trickle effect so its proper experience.

    TIM W.
    February 4, 2021 at 7:52 am
    Nobody is saying give up on Boqvist.I am just saying let him develop his skating and ability to play at the NHL level without him being tossed around and constantly in a defensively poor position.It is not going to do him much good being embarrassed at the NHL level.If Beaudin,Kalynuk,Regala,Mitchell,etc. are more mature and developed let them play ahead of Boqvist.Watching Beaudin for a few games definitely shows that he should be ahead of Boqvist.

  63. Dont get cocky kid. Lankenin is 3-1-3? and Blackhawks are 4-1-4 since first few games.

    Playing all tiers of teams top 5 mid tier and bottom 10ers. Basically split every two game thing except for TB/first two games out.

    PP #1 in league on yrs like these when we were dynasty/nope. PK was top 5 every yr though/dynasty yrs.

  64. I’m just quoting a player, genrally speakng if you have issue with it you can take it up with the player who said it. I’m sure the teams point leader will be happy to discuss his ideas with us the same as he did the coach. Really wish nhl was on three point system with shootouts. Did a study a while back really not much changed in the standings most of the time but occasionally a team snuck in to the playoffs based solely on shootout points, but wasnt as common as I thought it would be.

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