Meet A New Hawk: Ryan Garbutt

One of the players brought back to Chicago in the deal sending Patrick Sharp and Stephen Johns to Dallas was forward Ryan Garbutt. Let’s take a deeper look at the veteran forward.

Garbutt, who will turn 30 in August, appeared in 67 games with the Stars last season, picking up eight goals and 17 assists. In his career, Garbutt has registered 30 goals and 40 assists in 198 regular season games after signing with the Stars as a free agent in 2011. He was never drafted, and spent part of the 2010-11 season in Chicago with the Wolves.

With the Stars last season, Garbutt was credited with 82 hits, 48 blocked shots and 27 takeaways while averaging 13:33 on the ice per game. His iCorsi/60 was 18.04, which was the highest of any Dallas player who skated in more than 35 games last year, and his iCorsi of 233 ranked fourth overall on the Stars roster behind Jamie Benn, Tyler Seguin and Jason Spezza.

Garbutt also finished third on the Stars in primary assists per 60 minutes (0.85), behing only Seguin (1.23) and Jamie Benn (1.02).

He also averaged 1:33 per game on the ice short-handed for a Dallas team that finished 19th in the NHL on penalty kill (80.7 percent). In a little more than 104 minutes of short-handed ice time, opponents scored 12 goals while Garbutt was on the ice.

With Dallas retaining half of his cap hit, Garbutt will count $900,000 against the cap for Chicago for the next two years. He is primarily a left wing who is listed at 6-0 and 195 pounds, and figures to slot into the mess that is becoming the Hawks’ bottom six in training camp.

66 thoughts on “Meet A New Hawk: Ryan Garbutt

  • July 13, 2015 at 6:27 am

    Garbutt makes for a nice add (independently of the cost that is)… He will Hit and Block shots… can easily give you what Bickell should have given in that regard. A Garbutt/Desi/Kruger line would give teams fits even though it offers nothing offensively. But the offense can be handled by the other lines. I like Daley and Garbutt… just not for the cost, but business is business.

  • July 13, 2015 at 8:19 am

    He was also scratched quite a few games and Ruff didn’t know what to do with him because he was taking silly penalties.

    On an unrelated note, I just had my appendix removed and am still in the hospital. My thoughts turned to mining man and if anyone had heard anything from him.

  • July 13, 2015 at 8:38 am

    Garbutt IMO is just a guy, and the Hawks have too many of those these days. The Hawks lost top 6 forward in Saad and now need to find a replacement, lets hope that Panarin or Dano can fill that role, because as Tab said the bottom 6 has become a mess.

    @ Ernie, get better buddy!

  • July 13, 2015 at 9:08 am

    Get Well Ernie!

    I still fell nauseous about how the Sharp trade went down. I am not sure where either of the guys we got back fit just yet. I guess we will have to wait and see – but after losing Saad, Sharp, and Johns I just feel like our organization to a massive step backwards, especially if Oduya and Kruger walk…

  • July 13, 2015 at 9:11 am

    SSHM- Much appreciated. It’s just an appendix. Apparently we don’t need it anyway. I share your sentiments on him being just a guy. With his salary, I believe the Hawks can bury him in Rockford without any cap ramifications. I’d much rather have a Hartman or Danault or Baun up than Garbutt.

    As far as Saad being top six. It looks like Dano, Panarin, and Anisimov will be top 6. Not sure how I feel about Anisimov playing 2c. I could see a similar situation that we had with Vermette. Vermette didn’t really work until he was put back as a 3c. Time will tell. But from the Hawks perspective they added 3 top 6 players and lost one. Sharp was no longer a top 6 guy.

  • July 13, 2015 at 9:23 am

    Thanks Hoss. From a purely offensive standpoint, I doubt think the Hawks went backwards. If players perform as expected I would not be shocked if they score more than last year.

    Looking at the back end is where the step back occurs. Daley is a left shot. Do you want Daley paired with another left shot in Hjalmarsson? Or put him on the third pair with TVR, who personally I think projects more like a Hjalmarsson as a steady defensive first guy. Then pair Hjalmarsson with Pokka. Left/right shots on all three pairs. Oduya is gone. Kruger is the one that also helps on the defensive side of things. A lot of us wanted Oduya gone. A small minority blamed his lackluster first 3/4 of the season on injuries. While probably partially true, the length of deal Oduya wants would give me nightmares of Rozsival all over again. In that he’d be here too long. Rather cut a guy loose a year early than a year late. As was the case with Sharp.

  • July 13, 2015 at 9:53 am

    Funny video . . . coming out of the penalty box? Strike one . . . which is not a good sign ( dumb penalties ) on an average goal vs. an already beat-en NJ team . . . but he’s cheap.

  • July 13, 2015 at 9:59 am

    Ernie, disagree that Sharp no longer top six guy. Attribute his decline in production on Q moving him around too much plus nagging injuries. Sharp still has some explosiveness and still puts a lot of shots on goal. Not saying he should not have been traded (because of cap situation) but he will bounce back nicely. Predict 20-25 goals. Agree with comment regarding Oduya. IMO, Daley will have similar team impact net/net as Oduya, as better on O, worse on D.

  • July 13, 2015 at 10:11 am

    Somewhat off-topic. Since the Saad trade I have heard conflicting reports as to Dano’s best position on the ice. I have seen more than one report saying he is a natural centerman who only played the wing due to circumstances. I have also seen the exact opposite report that he prefers the wing but will play center as needed. When I saw all the YouTube clips of Dano at Columbus last year he usually appeared as a winger on the right side.

    Well, I read an interview with the man himself yesterday. Dano clearly stated that he is more comfortable on the wing and can play either on the right or left side.

    Therefore, I am predicting that Marko will wind-up as LW on the Toews line with his fellow Slovak, Hossa. Panarin will play LW on the second line with Kane and his fellow Russian, Anisimov.

  • July 13, 2015 at 10:21 am

    Reggie, in regards to Sharp I was speaking from the Hawks point of view. He was on the 4th line at times and in the playoffs he was on the 3rd. Personally I think he could have been a top six guy. But those days are numbered. At least on a team like the Hawks.

  • July 13, 2015 at 10:25 am

    Dano played right wing, but could play left. And was drafted as a centerman. Playing center in junior hockey is like NFL players that played QB in high school. He took very few draws at center last year and was in the low to mid 40% range.

    By the sound of it a lot of guys view Teuvo as a 3rd line guy to start next year.

  • July 13, 2015 at 10:29 am


    I’ve read and heard the same things. Dano is indeed a left handed shot best case scenario he winds up on the 1st line LW with Hoss and Panarin gets 2nd line LW with Turbo or Anisimov.

  • July 13, 2015 at 11:58 am

    July 13, 2015 at 9:11 am
    It looks like Dano, Panarin, and Anisimov will be top 6. </i)

    I'd think TT will be top 6 before Panarin will be. In fact I think Panarin will be doing well to be on the opening day roster. KHL is not NHL and at his size he'll need some time to adjust.

  • July 13, 2015 at 11:59 am

    July 13, 2015 at 9:11 am
    It looks like Dano, Panarin, and Anisimov will be top 6.

    I’d think TT will be top 6 before Panarin will be. In fact I think Panarin will be doing well to be on the opening day roster. KHL is not NHL and at his size he’ll need some time to adjust.

  • July 13, 2015 at 12:28 pm

    Garbutt is insurance when/if Shaw is traded for money reasons and Kruger doesn’t return. He can be fierce defensively and can play the PK. Very good skater. But he has been a total and reprehensible douche bag on skates. Can he be rehabilitated to become a useful part given his innate skills? Yes.

  • July 13, 2015 at 12:47 pm

    “Can he be rehabilitated to become a useful part given his innate skills? Yes.”

    Nice and positive Rufus, keep it up?

  • July 13, 2015 at 12:51 pm

    ……I guess its hard to remain positive for Blackhawks continued success with so many changes….but most changes are inevitable for all teams….hopefully the new players will blend in and develop a winning attitude quickly but right now its totally unpredictable….its 2010 all over again….thank God for summer and beach weather…..splish,splash………

  • July 13, 2015 at 1:00 pm

    Alberta, from the clips of Panarin that I’ve seen and from the couple games World Cup games I watched, it looked like Panarin isn’t afraid to stick his nose in there and scrum along the boards. We won’t know until he does it on N.A. ice, but he doesn’t look like a soft Euro player at all. As for his size, he isn’t smaller than TT, plus he is well set up – he looks to be a workout freak kind of guy.

  • July 13, 2015 at 1:01 pm

    Perhaps. Garbutt was #19 in NHL last season in iCorsi/60

    Other interesting rankings for iCorsi/60:

    Patrick Sharp #15
    Marko Dano #39
    Brandon Pirri #25

  • July 13, 2015 at 1:06 pm

    There was quite a lengthy conversation on the Jeff Blair show today about the Hawks-and the turnover
    in particular about Daley-the editor of the Puck Daddy feels under the right circumstances, paired with one of Chicago’s top D, but playing less minutes than with the Stars he might do very well and really surprise the fans-
    he also felt confident that at least one of Shaw or Oduya will be gone due to trade
    (I’m a huge Shaw fan)

  • July 13, 2015 at 1:07 pm

    After 2010, Ladd, Byfuglien, Versteeg, Niemi, Madden, Sopel were all gone the following year and Campbell and Brouwer the year after that. In the 2011 playoffs, the Hawks were a Game-7 fluky OT goal away from ousting the Western Conference SCF team Canucks.

    After 2013, Bolland, Frolik and Stalberg were gone and the Hawks were a Game-7 fluky OT goal away ousting the Cup winning Kings.

    After 2015, so far Saad, Sharp, Richards and Rozsival are gone. Not as bad as the 2010 team purge (yet).

    Keep the faith.

  • July 13, 2015 at 1:21 pm

    It very sadly looks like Shaw is going tone moved because Bickell is immovable. And I suspect Versteeg is too. I can’t see any circumstance by which Oduya comes back regardless of moves made otherwise. And I put the chances of Kruger coming back at 50-50.

  • July 13, 2015 at 1:28 pm


    I wish you a speedy recovery.

    BTW, I’m wagering that Andrew Shaw would have had his removed between periods and been back on the ice for the 3rd. And he would have auctioned it on ebay and given the proceeds to charity.

    Does anyone remember the series when Peter Forsberg had to have his spleen removed? And then showing up in the broadcast booth a few days later to have Bill Clement ask ( with a straight face ) him whether he would be back for the 7th game Sunday? Fortunately, sanity prevailed and Peter did not play Sunday.

    Go Hawks

  • July 13, 2015 at 1:41 pm

    Garbutt is a fine bottom 6 role player fit on this team. Andrew Shaw was playing top six quality hockey at the end of last season, showing a lot of somewhat unexpected puck possession and offensive push. While certainly giving up size and insane breakaway speed, you don’t lose any toughness replacing Saad with Shaw. And everybody’s constant complaints about nobody in the top six camping out in the crease are over if Shaw moves to the top six. Shaw certainly won’t be able to A$$h@le a guy like Hedman like Saad did, but at least you know he’ll try. And Shaw is flat out better on the defensive end than Saad. So my crazy notion is a lot of these moves are happening with the intention of Shaw playing in the top 6 next year. Mutt no longer, now a pure bred Pitbull. Well, maybe a mini-pinscher.

    Of course, The other side of that coin is, it’s nice having a player with Shaw’s skill on a loaded bottom six, a luxury that pretty much led to a Stanley Cup championship if I recall correctly.

    It’s also hard to deny that the Garbutt acquisition does make Shaw expendable, if Shaw’s only value is seen as a bottom six grinder. Conventional wisdom says he is and always will be, but I think he means quite a bit to this organization and might be ready to modify his role. I think he might quietly be one of the “core core” guys.

    And of course he could be traded later today. What do I know.

  • July 13, 2015 at 1:47 pm

    RTF I hope you are wrong. Losing Shaw and keeping Bicks would suck….Because at this moment the Hawks are better than last season.

  • July 13, 2015 at 2:03 pm

    Hey Ernie—Thanks for the thoughts! Wishing you the best and speedy recovery. Still evacuated, Red Cross gave me a whole $80 for food, some toiletries,…I am now staying with a family that has graciously taken me in….much better than the gymnasiun with 400 folks on cots. Still I just want to go home but it looks like 14 days yet. Army is up there now, 1,000 strong. They brought in a big Sikorsky from Montana that can reload 5,000 gallons of water a minute. Its a battle that has yet to be won. 23 expert fire managers from California arrived today to aid in the logistics of it all. Thanks to all of you for your thoughts.
    Been reading all the comments but up to now it has been difficult to respond and contribute to the conversation. We know for sure that all the dealings are not done yet. In Stan I trust, think he is light years ahead of the pack. Its going to be an exciting time up to opening night.

  • July 13, 2015 at 2:17 pm

    Hang in there MM – sometimes real life jumps up and needs to be dealt with.

  • July 13, 2015 at 2:21 pm

    Something that shouldn’t be missed when discussing of trading Shaw is that he is the Hawks best “Holmstrom imitator”. Tazer is pretty good too but I think there isn’t anyone on the Hawks that stands in front of the goalie and tracks the puck to block the goalies vision. That would be sorely missed if he is traded. Pus he has nice hand/eye to get those tips too.

  • July 13, 2015 at 2:21 pm

    If commentment and loyalty to teamates and playing for a great organization mean so much.. I ask why Kane and Toews didn’t take a millon or two less. If they did we wouldn’t be in this salary cap mess. Blame Kane and Toews.

  • July 13, 2015 at 2:23 pm

    Let’s try this with complete sentence this time:

    Something that shouldn’t be missed when discussing trading Shaw is that he is the Hawks best “Holmstrom imitator”. Tazer is pretty good too but I think there isn’t anyone on the Hawks that stands in front of the goalie and tracks the puck to block the goalies vision better than Shaw. He would be sorely missed if he is traded. Pus he has nice hand/eye to get those tips too.

  • July 13, 2015 at 3:10 pm

    Cleekster, IMO, there is no such thing as “home town discount”, unless there are other, outside of hockey, motives…….such as Fisher staying in Nashville. Hell….If Carrie Underwood was my wife, I’d play for free if she wanted. In a case like Desjardins, he made a family decision to stay in Chicago.

    Toews and Kane took what they deserved and I believe we will look back in a few years and say it was worth it. If not there will be a lesson learned the hard way.

    In Saad’s case he took the money and ran, and I don’t blame him. Unfortunate for Saad, as a budding star he would have made a ton more money doing endorsements in Chicago than he will in Columbus.endorsements.

    I do not expect Kruger to take less than he is worth.

    The Hawks can carry $78.5mm or so until the puck drops in October. Kruger’s commitment to the Hawks or visa versa must not fit into that restriction otherwise I believe he would be signed. I do not believe he is waiting to see “how much” the Hawks can scrape up.

  • July 13, 2015 at 3:34 pm

    Mike, there have been “home town discounts” in the NBA. For example, Tim Duncan’s contract the last few years was way under his market value. He did this for the team which helped lead to an NBA title two years ago. Just last week he signed a new contract for just $5M a year. About a third of his market value, IMO, maybe less. Spurs could not have signed Aldridge otherwise.

    Dwayne Wade took a below market value deal in order for the Heat to sign LeBron and Bosh five years ago. Led to two titles.

  • July 13, 2015 at 3:35 pm

    I don’t want to hear all the “they deserve it” and “they owe it to the players union” and “a player has only so many years to maximize his earning potential” and “they could have gotten more on the open market” and all the other reasons that are stated as to why the $10.5M T&K contracts are just fine and dandy. I get all that and I’m philosophically fine with it, and I’d rather have both T&K on the Hawks at $10,5M than have only one or neither of them.

    But, I was disappointed when I found out it was $10.5M. I thought it was too high and that T&K gambled (along with Stan) that the cap would go up more than it has and by doing so they gambled that some of their teammates would have to be traded of take less. If they had signed for $9.5M, which would have put them 2nd/3rd highest paid players in the league, the Hawks would have $2M more to keep the team together. Maybe that would have been enough to keep Saad or maybe Kruger would already be re-signed. That extra $2M per season would help tremendously over the course of the 8 year term of their contracts. And, really, would agreeing to $9.5M AAV have been an insult to them or would the players unions squaked – I don’t think so.

    So I’m VERY happy we have T&K and even at the $10.5M cost. But I think they should have signed for less and not gambled away teammate’s money – because that’s whet it is. They will get their $10,5M. Some of their teammates will get less than they otherwise would have.

    Now even though I went out of my way to state the disclaimer – I’m ready for the onslaught of comments telling my how wrong I am. Let it begin.

  • July 13, 2015 at 4:02 pm

    ER, its not that you are right or wrong. If you are sitting in that room and your agent is arguing for or you are being offered X……are you really gonna say, no I will take $8mm less over the next 8 years. Human nature says no.

    RF, BBall is different in a couple respects. Average NBA player makes $5.1mm (MLB, $3.8mm and NHL $2.5mm) Second, as the NBA is a much higher profile sport, the opportunity to make big bucks doing endorsements for a guy like TD are enormous. And lastly, TD is already offered a front office job when he retires.

    My point is we are not sitting in the room. It is easy for us to say, well how much money does he need. Saad is the perfect example. With offer sheets pending he took money over the Blackhawk team and the City of Chicago. Money talks……

  • July 13, 2015 at 4:04 pm


    No one can really tell you if you’re right or wrong because know one knows. No one knows if there was an overpayment, underpayment, how the negotiations went or whatever.

    All we do know is, it is what it is. And everything else needs to fit around it. So far they’ve been able to do that. Will it continue and will they be contenders? Who knows but it looks like that’s what they’re trying to do. It has been a very methodical, measured approach, yet very aggressive at the same time.

    The flip side of your statements is we also have to be grateful they’ve gotten out in front of some contracts. The Hjarlmarsson extension was fantastic, Keith’s deal, and a few others.

    They haven’t done anything really stupid with trading away the future, although losing Stephen Johns will be a sore spot as the guy really looks like a player. But we know all this coming in that there’d be losses which would hurt and sad to say I think we should expect 1-2 more that will sting.

    All I ask as a fan is this. When your contending window is wide open, be aggressive and go for it but keep one eye on the future by acquiring as much young talent as possible. They’ve done that and if what I heard from some Rockford scouting chatter was correct, they were in on several more college free agents beyond the ones they got. Can’t get them all but they are highly aggressive.

    Sadly in a salary cap world, I think there are some uncomfortable realities we all need to live with.

  • July 13, 2015 at 4:06 pm

    Mike, when I’m sitting in that room and realize I can help keep the team together and still make $76M over the next 8 years (instead of $84M), then I hope if I were put in that position that I would. I’m not in that position so I realize it’s all just conjecture, but I honestly think I would, as stupid as that makes me out to be to many people.

  • July 13, 2015 at 4:11 pm

    Let me add to my previous comment – that I’ve never been money hungry or jealous of what others have. I couldn’t care less if the guy I work with who does the same job as I do makes more money that I do. All that matters is that I feel that I’m compensated fairly and if I am than I’m happy. I realize that some people will read that and think I’m stupid for not getting as much as I can – but that’s not the way I’m wired and at 61 years old, I doubt I can be re-wired. :)

  • July 13, 2015 at 4:22 pm

    EBONYRAPTOR I fully agree with you. I am 76 and never worried about what somebody else made as long as I thought I was fairly compensated, I would have taken less money to keep my team togther especially someone I went to war with.

  • July 13, 2015 at 4:40 pm

    It’s hard to begrudge 19 and 88 from getting paid. They are setting up themselves and their children (and probably their parents) for life. Seeing the struggles that guys like Makita are going through, it’s hard to say leave money on the table not knowing what the future will hold.

    Thought this was interesting nugget from Puck Daddy on the Sharp trade, specifically about Trevor Daley:

    Daley has his virtues as a defenseman, but playing the role in which he was cast in Dallas didn’t accentuate them. As Scott Cullen notes, Daley “was woefully overmatched in his role as a top pair defenceman for Dallas last season, posting the worst relative possession stats among 128 defencemen to play at least 1000 5-on-5 minutes.”

    (No. 18 from the bottom on that list: Johnny Oduya, the only Chicago defenseman in the bottom 30.)

  • July 13, 2015 at 4:46 pm

    Cleekster, I thought I was the oldest poster here but you beat me by six years. I bow down to you and all the other senior citizens (aka “alte cockers”) who love the Hawks.

    Pop Quiz: The post WW II Blackhawks were one of the most dismal teams in NHL history. They were putrid for about 12 or 13 years. Legend is that Bobby Hull and Stan Mikita led the Hawks out of the desert. Not actually so. There was a line created of three NHL vets who lit the spark of the Hawks Renaissance. Name the line and the three players on it?

  • July 13, 2015 at 5:01 pm

    Reggie, you got me there. I didn’t start paying attention to hockey until we moved back to Chicago when I was 12 after living in northern Wisconsin for 5 years. That was 1966 – long after the Bobby/Stan era had started.

  • July 13, 2015 at 5:45 pm

    The Pappy Line … Ed Litzenberger, Ted Lindsay, and Todd Sloan. I think the name was bestowed because Lindsay and Sloan were older guys.

  • July 13, 2015 at 6:10 pm

    ER, I don’t disagee with you. It is just reality.

  • July 13, 2015 at 6:12 pm

    Geez, Hofmeister, I can’t anything by you! (But give me time)

    Lindsay, of course, was an all-time great who the Hawks got from Detroit. Sloan came from Toronto, I believe, and Litzenberger was sold to the Hawks from Montreal but was not really the grizzled veteran as were Lindsay and Sloan. In fact, there is considerable speculation that the other five original teams were coerced by the League into giving the Hawks assets because they were so revoltingly bad. See

    For your correct answer you will receive my treasured program autographed by Ab McDonald. Unfortunately, there is tobacco juice on it from the guy who sat in back of me in the second balcony. I turned around and was going to start up with him but he had a Teamster jacket on and was missing about four of his front teeth. So, the coward that I am, I meekly sat back down. My buddies couldn’t stop laughing.

    Send me your mailing address and you can pass the program on to your grandchildren.

  • July 13, 2015 at 6:23 pm

    Reggie, no problem, thanks for the quiz question, give the Ab autographed program to your family as I have tons from the 60’s and 70’s including a full set of Blackhawk yearbooks starting with 1959-60.

    Your question reminded me of an encounter with a nice man named Mel who stops in for a few beers on Sat. afternoons at a local Naperville establishment. Mel grew up in Detroit, is a Red Wing fan, but nonetheless we get along great. He is 71 and doesn’t understand how I could know stuff about hockey before my time. I told him my dad started going in 1956 and started his season tickets in 1957 and I have spent hours and hours asking him about old players, stories, and so on.

    So Mel says “I can stump you. What was the famous old Boston Bruins line containing a player who started his career with the Red Wings?” I said the Uke Line … Johnny Bucyk, Vic Stasiuk, and Bronco Horvath (all with Ukranian heritage). Then he asked if I know who the Red Wings got when they traded Bucyk to the Red Wings, I said that’s easy Mel, Terry Sawcuck. He said “I give up.”

  • July 13, 2015 at 6:56 pm

    That was a great line but Detroit may have gotten the better of that deal.

    Perhaps I am nostalgic for those days which is the reason I would like to see a line with Panarin-Anisimov-Tikhonen (the “Red Line?”) and Dano on a line with Hossa.

  • July 13, 2015 at 7:59 pm

    July 13, 2015 at 1:00 pm
    We won’t know until he does it on N.A. ice, but he doesn’t look like a soft Euro player at all. As for his size, he isn’t smaller than TT,

    Never said he was a soft Euro ER and yes he is smaller but not by a lot. I just think TT opened some eyes during the playoffs and…he’s a Finn. Can’t have enough Finns. Best in the world next to Canadians.

  • July 13, 2015 at 8:24 pm

    Thanks for the update MM. We are all thinking about ya. We’ve never met but were all friends here. Had a lot of time to think while in a hospital bed and you came to mind. Hopefully it all ends well and these few weeks are just an inconvenience.

  • July 13, 2015 at 8:24 pm

    Couple of things, listening to Edzo today, he sounded more happy about Garbutt than Daley. And I wonder if Reilly had known Johns and Paliotta were not going to be here if that would have changed his mind.

  • July 13, 2015 at 8:27 pm

    Here is a trivia question for all the Hawk fans that are so upset by the trades etc needed to get under the salary cap. Name the only Blackhawk in this group that played at least 61 regular season games last this past year and had less than 10 goals for 5 on 5 play; Bickell, Versteig, Sharp, Shaw, or Richards.

    Hint: Name the highest paid of the group!

  • July 13, 2015 at 9:20 pm

    Talking about the team the league built up in 61 the defense men were Al Arbour,Moose Vasko,Jack(tex) Evans and Dollar St Lauarent. In goal was Glen Hall.

  • July 13, 2015 at 9:51 pm

    My pessimism and fears on Trevor Daley have been reinforced by any of the respected analysts out there. Fact remains Daley is a major liability in the defensive zone and you aren’t going to do a whole lot to change that for a 32 year old. Very naive for some to simply state the pairing him with Hjalmarsson will be the cure. Horsecrap. Unless the plan is to make the expensive Daley part of the 3rd pairing then I hereby predict his sorry ass will be permanently in Quenneville’s doghouse very early in the season. God I hope Bowman has a plan to spin him out of town this week.

  • July 13, 2015 at 9:55 pm

    Cleekster, great memory. However, you missed the greatest defenseman of his era, the “Captain,” Pierre Pilote. Three-time Norris Trophy winner as well as three-time runner-up for the Norris. He was the Duncan Keith of the team, and more. Perennial all-star.

    I am sure you remember the entire stadium screaming “Moose” when Vasko moved the puck up the ice from his own end. And, for my money there was no greater goaltender than Glen Hall. They should have won several cups. But that was an era where other teams of the original six (e.g. Montreal, Detroit) had great talent even on their third lines.

  • July 13, 2015 at 9:56 pm

    Reilly is a native of Minnesota, the Wild have needs on defense where he is a near lock to play from day one, and daddy is a minority owner. He was never signing anywhere else.

  • July 13, 2015 at 9:59 pm

    Pierre Pilote was a magnificent Hawk. A little before my time but a tremendous player. Just read his biography and what a great book. Talks about the lock on geographic talent that Original 6 members Montreal and Toronto had, making it virtually impossible for the other 4 teams to win a Cup. Also provides insights into like in the AHL and paying your dues. Great and underrated player who won 3 Norris Trophies.

  • July 13, 2015 at 10:39 pm

    Rufus, you may be right and I know you aren’t afraid to put your opinions out there, like the rest of us, but I have to respectfully disagree with you on your Daley assessment, at least as far as comparing him with Oduya and stating Daley to be a disaster in the d-zone insinuating that Oduya never was. When Oduya came to the Hawks he was 30’ish and it could be said he was what he was – the same thing you say about Daley. I recall that Oduya spent a lot of time with the pizzaman moniker and although he played very well down the stretch and throughout the playoffs – he also had his gaffes and turnovers and many times seemed to cough up the puck rather than take the hit to make a play. Daley very well and probably will play better in Q’s system than he did in free wheeling Dallas. If I had to pick between them, I’d rather have Oduya, but I don’t think the drop off is nearly as significant as you make it out to be. But we’ll see because apparently Daley is replacing Oduya. If you’re correct about Daley – you can crow about it then. I know we both hope you;re wrong though and Daley will be adequate and the Hawks will repeat.

    Plus – Daley can play the point on the PP which is something that should help the woebegotten PP.

  • July 13, 2015 at 11:03 pm

    I don’t want to be “right” on Daley. And j forever been very pro Bowman and get they he was bent over on the Sharp deal because that is just what was going to happen to move some salary. But I’m telling you Daley is awful defensively. And it can’t all be dismissed by saying Lindy Ruff ran such and such a system in Dallas. We all know that huge part of Chicago’s success has been defensive discipline and shutdown play when it counts. This more than anything is what Quenneville preaches and is unrelenting on. How the hell the does Daley fit?!? He is in fact the antithesis of a Quenneville style defender. And we are paying him over $3 M, so it’s not Runblad afterthought type money that you can conveniently ignore. Ugh.

  • July 14, 2015 at 7:55 am

    Daley works really well as a third pairing and on the power play. Hawks need to resign Kruger and odiuya. I’m hoping garbut replaces versteeg not shaw. If they can trade versteeg and Bickel for late round picks and dump enough salary to sign Kruger and odiuya that would be ideal. If they sign a longer term deal with odiuya he might take less per year and then do a bridge deal with Kruger for whatever they can scrape together.

  • July 14, 2015 at 9:46 am

    There is absolutely no sense in nashing teeth over Daley, if he can’t play he will be shipped out of town soon enough, if he can its another great SB move. Too say he is this or he is that is silly. SB as shown a few things over the years. 1st he never gives away an asset for nothing, roster spots are earned not given, and if a player can’t play in the Hawks system he won’t be here.

  • July 14, 2015 at 11:03 am

    Daley was a “plus” player for six straight seasons before last year – in 5 of those seasons Dallas missed the playoffs. Last year it is my understanding that Ruff wanted much more offense from the D and he got it at a very high cost. You don’t get to be a consistent plus player in the NHL while playing over 21 minutes a night for a non-playoff team as as a “defensive disaster”. There is no way he will be on the 3rd pairing making over $3m so let’s take a deep breath and see how he performs in real games before we continuing slamming the guy.

    While Johnny O had an amazing playoff run I have to believe he is looking for a three year deal at $4m per year. In the last year of his deal he will be 37. While I appreciate his contributions this is not a contract I would be comfortable with.

  • July 14, 2015 at 11:54 am

    Indicatons are Oduya signs with Buffalo …looks like maybe we know today.

  • July 14, 2015 at 11:56 am

    Selective interpretation of the stats on Trevor Daley is done on your own risk. You shall see soon enough this fall that Daley is David Runblad all over again in the defensive zone. And unlike Runblad, Daley is on the books for over $3 M for each of the next two seasons.

  • July 14, 2015 at 12:48 pm

    Rufus, Reilly was born in Chicago and raised in Minnesota. On his pre.draft profile card he listed the Hawks as his favorite team.

    It’s a moot point now anyway. Who cares why he signed.

  • July 14, 2015 at 1:28 pm

    Reilly’s father is a minority owner of the Wild. He signed with them. Moving on…

  • July 14, 2015 at 5:02 pm

    Daley is going to be fine. When the season rolls around and he indeed proves to be “awful” then we can all chime in and say he’s awful. But there is no certainty in any of this speculation right now. I, for one, believe that Q and his staff will impress upon him the necessity to play our style of defensive game, as they did with Oduya a few years ago. Oduya had the same rap on him when he came over. I remember reading chat boards back then as Winnipeg fans piled on and demeaned his game. Well, he adapted and improved. I’ve watched Daley a lot. He’s a good skater, with good instincts who will now be playing on a team that will back him up and not allow consistent lapses in his game. From what I’ve read so far, he wants to prove to the big boys that he belongs, and if he comes into camp and into the season with that attitude, he will be fine. I look forward to seeing how well he fits in.
    And all the best to Oduya! I hope he rips it up in Buffalo or wherever he lands.

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