Nashville Predators Acquire PK Subban – For Shea Weber
Wednesday, June 29, 2016 may well go down in NHL history as “WTF Happened Day.”
Within moments of Edmonton trading Taylor Hall to New Jersey, the Montreal Canadiens traded PK Subban to the Nashville Predators for Shea Weber.
Weber, Nashville’s captain, had 20 goals and 31 assists in 78 games last season. The 30-year-old has a $7,857,142 through the 20125-26 season.
Subban, 27, has a $9M cap hit through the 2021-22 season. He posted six goals and 45 assists in 68 games for the Habs last season.
Fuck, Nashville just got better.
Wow!
I don’t understand this on either level.
Yep this one is a wtf trade if I have seen one. Preds get points for stealing. Why is it always to our division?
Let’s Go Hawks!
I just checked in here to see if there was any news.
HOLY SH*T
wtf is right!
It must be a personality trade. Two GM”s pissed at their star. I would rather have Weber myself.
Not as bad as the Hall trade. The Hall trade will have to go down as a major GM blunder. Terrible trade for Edmonton. Maybe it was supposed to be Yakupov.
It confirms what many have thought about that punk Subban. He’s a locker room cancer. Smart move by Montreal. They really couldn’t have done better given the cancer’s big cap hit.
Top D in league a yr ago trades Jones and Weber.
Oil fans should just stop buying tickets to protest if they are fed up with team direction. Only way to send the message. We did in here in Chicago for a few years. I was one of those people. Hurt to stay away but the quality of play became unacceptable. One could see the tide turning in 2008 and I was happy to be back.
Let’s Go Hawks!
I’d rather have Weber. Although the term of his deal sucks. More salary but better term.
Huge move my David Poile! Nash just moved their franchise defenseman for a younger franchise defenseman. Nashville has a bunch of defensive talent so they could afford to move their guy for a younger player. Thats what you do with guys with a BUNCH of miles in their 30’s excellent trade for Nashville. For Montreal WTF???
Hows this for a Chicago connection. Chelios was traded from Montreal to Chicago on this day in 1990. 26 years later Habs fans made the connection of how horrible that trade was and are looking at adding this trade to their top 5 or 10 worst trades. Cheers!
Weber’s contract is worse than Hossa and Subban is the better player by far. You guys saying you’d rather have Weber than Subban are crazy.
Southsidehawksman. Stop looking at it from a superficial perspective and do some reseach. For example in this article it was revealed BEFORE the trade that Subban was a locker room cancer and had to go. The Preds will regret this trade especially since his no trade clause will soon kick in and then they’ll be stuck. Canadiens dealt him just in time.
http://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/rumor-p-k-subban-has-played-his-last-game-in-montreal
Here is a part of that article:
Former NHL player Georges Laraques, who is a frequent radio personality in Quebec, has revealed that at least according to him, P.K. Subban is absolutely reviled and even despised by his teammates, and is a real source of problems in that locker room. Laraque believes the Canadians don’t have a choice, Subban must be traded, and speaks of Subban being a lone wolf in the Canadiens locker room, hated by the other players for what they view as selfishness.
Subban was a big distraction in Montreal for the past 3-4 years …he was also a big problem for the Team because many players dint like the attitude he has …many friends are really happy here in Montreal to see him leave …i am glad we dont have him on the Team …good luck Preds …you have a.very good player who think he his the best dman in the world …..but he is not
Its a 10 million difference between Shea and PK, with PK costing 10 million dollars more, but he is near 4 years younger.
Webber is a solid “defensive” defenseman, but Subban can skate and move the puck. We talk about this all the time……………..the league is NOT about size anymore. It is about speed and agility and the Preds just got better. Whether Subban can get his head out of his butt and play with the “team” is one thing, but the guy can skate and shoot the puck.
@ STAN IS THE MAN
I don’t buy that argument. I don’t care with Georges Laraques says about PK Subban. Who knows what his agenda is or if he has an axe to grind with someone, frankly don’t care either. PK is arguably one of the most dynamic hockey players to ever play the game. Weber will go do down as a cornerstone player no doubt. Just wait to see PK flourishing in Nashville with Phil Housley coaching him up, an excellent d pair partner in Roman Josi AND less crazy media scrutinizing his every move. Slam dunk trade for David Poile!
Hmmmmmm….need to think about this…ok that’s enough..LOL, so dumb.
Wow. Have to say I really love this deal for Nashville. The Preds have become downright formidable. Probably get my team to beat in the Western Conference at this stage. Weber is a great player. But Subban on the Preds is a better situation. And the Preds are bursting with strong young defensive talent. And a farm system that remains loaded.
SouthsideHawksman. Oh ok just bury your head in the sand!!!! I have some relatives in Montreal and there have been rumors of this very thing by NUMEROUS sources. A team doesn’t just trade a supposedly dynamic all offense and no defense defensemen who is coming into his prime unless there are serious issues. The Canadiens aren’t dummies but it’s apparent that you are!
@ Stan
Get out of the Candian fishbowl and look around! This is no different then how most old school OrganIzations act after bum trades. Hell the Bruins been doing this for years. Trashing guys on the way out. Its totally low rent move. Talk to me in a year and we will see how this trade looks. The Canadiens leadership was NEVER comfortable with a brash personality like PK. They wet the bed on his horrible contract they signed him to and now they moved on. So I guess David Poile is also a dummy? Its not like he has a track record of identifying defensive players right?
You freaks are insane. Who gives a shit about media perception on locker room relations. Seriously. The media in Montreal is horrid and don’t really care for the way Subban talks to them. Subban is more affordable, younger, and better in every conceuvable way. I’m truly jealous Nashville pulled this off. “Locker room cancer”…my ass. Says who? Not his teammates. “I heard Patrick Sharp was sleeping with Keith’s wife!!” That is how dumb the term “Locker room cancer” is.
Found another dummy
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/sports/news/predators-steal-p-k-subban-from-canadiens-trending-topics-225828388.html?client=ms-android-verizon#
Interesting link SSHM (thanks for that, by the way). If you leave out the arguments about who is better on the ice, the financials seem to favor Nashville.
And Stamkos stays with Tampa …….
Subban is a tool plain and simple. He has the idea that he is the team. Always extends his shift way to long and costs his fellow teammates time and again. Montreal Gm got this right not so much with the Shaw deal.
I’ll admit I haven’t watched as much of Subban and Weber as some. Hate both those teams.
However, from what I did see Subban seems to be way less reliable. If you’re in the last minute of a playoff game and up by one would you rather have Weber or Subban on the ice? I have a feeling most coaches would pick Weber.
So, is Subban really that much better offensively? Well Weber”s 20 goals versus Subban”s 6 this past year implies Subban isn’t better offensively.
I don’t have a strong opinion either way but comments about Subban being much better seem biased to me. Seems like the selection committee for Team Canada agrees.
Lots of variables in this one. It may all come down to who fits better into the teams system over the years.
One more thought. Does Subban even play against the other teams top lines in key situations? Seems to me he isn’t his coaches shutdown D-man. That tells me something. I could be wrong with this point. Hate the Habs so don’t watch them too closely.
For those suggesting Weber is better than Subban, see how Subban is better in 8/10 categories: https://twitter.com/travisyost/status/748252217484812288
Yup, that’s a head scratcher, but not too hard to figure out. Why do you send your star player out of town? Ask A Rod’s former GM’s. Because your star is an a$$hole, and they cost too much. On the relatively microscopic salary scale of the NHL, $1.2 million is an entire decent hockey player, and the team-player factor is much more important in hockey. All I can surmise is P.K.’s presence was not positive for the team and they got a very nice D in return. Otherwise this makes no sense at all. Which may also be the case.
Styles of play makes sense of this trade to me. Both players might be better fits in their new systems from what I have seen of these teams.
WTF is everyone confused about here?
Talent roughly a wash. But I think it makes sense for both sides:
Nashville swaps out $70ish million left on (30 year old) Weber’s contract, for only $45ish million remaining on (27 year old) Suban’s deal = Nashville has $25 million less in total commitments to #1 blue liner.
On flip side Montreal gets $2+ million of immediate annual cap relief without foregoing a #1 blue liner.
Think it’s a win/win.
If Weber retires before the contract is in the final year of the deal, his age 40 year. The recapture penalty would be 25 million
When a player think he is bigger then the Team its say all …..
When the suppose best dman on the planet…. euhhh……. is not invited to be a member of team Canada then you know there is something wrong somewhere …
When you have been on team Canada and win a gold medal but dont play 1 minute per game with your team then you must think …why they didnt dress Subban ??
He is a distraction for the teamate ….he is a good show off guy and very funny ,he has a nice personnallity, i saw him a few time on french tv having fun on some french and english program when he was invited to some shows …i like him but on the ice i prefer to see him with another team …he has many good side ,but for Hockey player s. He is a big distraction and he take to much place in the room …he had problem with the coach ,with many players,with the person in charge of the equipement …always want to do it the way he wants …iff you live in Montreal you can see all those little things that shows he wants to control the team ,the coachs …iff he would just focus on his game and stop blaming others for everything he would be really good but its not the case …last year he blame the man who take care of is skate for bad plays he makes … Before that he said to the coach he should play him differently ..Predator made a mistake and i am glad to see him with them because he will make them a worst team for sure ……he his a excellent player with a really disturbing attitude and a big head …too bad for him and is teamate …..many players will feel uncorfortable with him beside them …..for me the biggest thing is when they didnt play him with team Canada and didnt invite him with team Canada …thats shows a lot for a 9 millions dollar player……thats what i saw in Montreal from Subban
The Seth Jones trade looks odd in this context too. I was stunned when they made that trade. I guess if that center had worked out that trade wouldn’t seem so bad.
Is their GM head of US Hockey?
2010, interesting comments. You will see a honeymoon period with PK and the Preds. How long will that last is the question. PK will surely be out to impress. But there is no way PK is worth $9mm. BTW, is Housley an offense first coach??
I see this as a short term win for the Preds and a longer term win for the Habs. Weber, if nothing else, will make all the youth in Montreal better. That is something that Subban can not do.
“Anonymous ex Hab to Toronto Star: ‘They hated how much fun he had. The fact that he never sulked and pouted, win or lose, just bugged them'”
Link: https://twitter.com/adater/status/748355035113754629
Sounds to me like coaching/management is the “cancer” in Montreal.
If this was the plan, then why didn’t the Habs draft Logan Brown, the 6’6 center they’ve needed for a decade??
Plus, everyone knew Subban divided that room,especially the captain.
I’d rather have Weber. Even if Subban was better all-around, which he isn’t, he still refuses to play as a member of a team on the ice.
This is pretty shocking though. Shea was the heart and soul of Nashville. It would be like Bowman trading Toews.
I was thinking the same Ernie. There probably isn’t much chance of Weber completing that contract and Nashville will be on the hook for that recapture penalty not Montreal
…..love Weber….this move should be good for Montreal….although Subban has matured a little he will always be a Prima Donna player on any team that he plays on ….a very flashy and flamboyant Canadian that will always stand out on any team…..Montreal has moved closer to winning the the Stanley Cup with this move!.imho