2021 NHL Draft Lottery Set for June 2

The NHL announced Wednesday the Draft Lottery will be held on June 2. This year’s lottery will determine the order of selection for the first 16 picks in the first round of the 2021 NHL Draft – including Seattle.

The Chicago Blackhawks have the 12th-best odds of winning the lottery (2.7 percent).

The Seattle Kraken were assigned the third-best lottery odds (same percentage chance as number four – 10.3%).

Also, the NHL stripped the Arizona Coyotes of their first round pick as part of sanctions handed down on Aug. 26, 2020. If Arizona wins the lottery there will be a re-draw.

78 thoughts on “2021 NHL Draft Lottery Set for June 2

  1. It will be interesting to see who the Hawks will protect in the draft ! Seattle unlike Las Vegas should have an average team as the rules have changed a bit ! I can remember in 1967 when the league doubled and a couple of my buddies were picked up and played in Oakland ! At Christmas I heard the stories ! Some clubs really struggled ! The Hawks will rebuild and all should understand they got lucky with a lot of players from 2005 to 2008 that they drafted ! Then came the cups and those kids all enjoyed that U.C atmosphere ,the circus Trips and the Chicago lifestyle ! It was a dynasty of the decade to be written into that storied franchise ! I’m Canadian from Hamilton and have come in for many games to the U.C and it is truly amazing ! Philip

  2. Now that the Hawks are picking 11th (unless they win the draft lottery) I’m starting to like the look of Mason McTavish a 200 lb centre with high hockey IQ and can play in all situations – some draft rankings have him in top 10 so he make not fall to 11 though

  3. Picking 11th first round only because Arizona loses their pick. But 12 regularly. I don’t believe the Hawks can win the 1st overall as they can only move up 10 spots, thus putting them in the 2 slot. Am I wrong about this?

    Should be able to pick 2, 3, 12, 13, or 14. One of those with our regular 1st round pick.

  4. Silent only moving up 10 spots comes into effect next season not this year. All the lotto teams are eligible for top pick except Coyotes of course.

    Wrap watched Mctavish at under 18’s some, liked him alot, played left wing though there, not sure he’d be a center in Nhl, maybe more a winger in power forward role.

  5. I just re-read and yes I have it wrong. Not the first time, and likely not the last!

    Thanks. I’ll take the good news.

  6. So the Hawks will have the 12th pick in Rounds 2 – 7 and can pick either 1st, 2nd, 11th, 12th or 13th in the 1st Round depending how the ping pong balls drop. I think.

    Owen Power come on down. :=)

  7. Any player drafted is basically at minimum three plus years away from having any significant impact based on current contract signings that means this player is the impact.

    I guess maybe riley stillman and nrent Seabrook are signed then.

    Stans words of rebuild are far from wrong. No one is signed and really nothings wrong with it. There is quite literally no one.

  8. A Top pairing Defenseman and a #1 or #2 Center should be on deck for the Hawks this draft. Perusing the sleepers and mock drafts starting NOW!

  9. June 2nd tells the tale on final landing spot for 1st pick, thrir 2nd pick will be 44th and next pick in high 50s or low 60s.

    One thing to note on recent signings is, Soderblom is still under contract for another year to his Swedish team, so not likely able to play in Rfd. early part of this year. Borgstrom already did his elc in Florida so needs waivers to go to Rfd., means he will stay on Nhl roster. Also if Reichel signs as expected, he still has 1 year left on his contract with German league team, so he likely has european clause because of transfer agreement. So likely means he stays on Nhl roster for a 1st half of season anyways before they could send him to Rfd. So almost certainly be forwards and goalies on the move this summer.

  10. Ian, thank you for providing details I otherwise wouldn’t know about.

  11. I still laugh at above picture-Dach and the kid did ok-Bowman with the Grinch smile and the three others, perhaps someone let one rip?
    In line for worst picture ever.

  12. This is huge.

    Absolutely very important to have a worse record on yrs where were not close/more specifically have a chance at a top 10 skill draft player.

    We need them elites. Top pair Defensemen or a very good FW thats better then Reichel and maybe not as high as Dach which is very good then.

    HAWKS2010
    May 19, 2021 at 5:07 pm
    Thank you Calgary….nice victory 6-2

  13. I know not many believe it I think a 8-12 pick is a much better player then 19th and I like Reichel. Wasnt routing for us to lose just if were not ready yet get experience emerge young wavers and get the better draft player. Yes thee are very good players at 19th like Reichel and there are better players then him in the top 10 area draft picks.

    We have to get the ‘right’ guy as Ian says thats the key. Look at Dach might be the top player from that draft just like Tazer is.

    lets go scouts crew BaBaaaay!

  14. Mo, there’s no guarantee you’ll get a better player at 8-12 than at 19. Unless you’re drafting a generational type talent in the top 2 or 3, the NHL draft is largely a crapshoot, just like it is in other sports. Cam Barker went 3rd. Jack Skille was #7. Keith and Debrincat were second rounders.

  15. Not every time but I would say more times like 7 of every 10 times the player is better at 4-12 after those generationals then 19th.

    We have to select the right guy cant be picking duds.

    Those Barks Skille are the 3 of 10 picks that are duds. I think 7 of 10 are better then 19th area though and thats why I say that.

    The crapshoot for me is 15-30 and on area for landing an elite player.

    Not disagreeing just how I see the layout of it. 70% the player is better/much better possible then 19th area.

    Plus my thing the whole yr is were going to have 19th picks in some of the coming yrs lets get top 10 when we can.

  16. Not sure if you saw I posted about those gems from 1st half of 2nd rounds that we like to get. I want more of those 30-45th picks tahts where I draw the line for getting very good players and want to trade up 3rd picks for more 30-45th please.

  17. Yeah there’s no guarantee that a player taken between 8-12 will be better than a player taken at 19 – but every team has players graded and they would rather take a gamble on a player they have rated in the 8-12 range than a guy still on the board at 19. It’s kind of a Mr. Obvious thing but wouldn’t everyone rather take a chance with a player they think is better than not.

  18. Mo since 2000 when Blackhawks picked 4-12, they have taken, Yakubov 10th, Vorobiev 11th,, Ruutu 9th, Skille 7th, Beach 11th, Boqvist 8th. When drafting 13-20 the got Seabrook 14th, MacNeil 18th, Teuvo 18th, Schmaltz 20th, Reichel 17th. Not really sure there is much advantage.

  19. Ok gentlemen and Stephanie hear me out after this statement. ……Trade the Pick…… Let’s say we stay at 11. The stud goalie of the draft is probably still available. Remember I do not want to take a goalie first round.

    Our scouting and talent evaluation staff look for teams that need or want that goalie. You flip the number 1 picks and get a player and get their number one in the 23 draft. This gives us two chances to get Kane’s replacement Bedard.

    We have many kids and still in the early stages of the rebuild. We have many young D and haven’t seen Slavin, Richel, Slaggert, Morrison, etc to go with what we have seen.

    Mark these words Mo. Chicago Blackhawks 2025 Stanley Cup Champions. maybe 26

  20. Actually since 2000 to finish off on 1st rounders. Kane 1st, Toews, Barker, Dach all 3rds higher than 4th. Higher than 20 th 1st rounders, Beaudin 27th, Joki 29th, Hartman 30th, Hayes 24th, Danault 26th, Olsen 28th, Babchuk 21st. Last half of 1st round produced alot of good picks.

  21. JR ROMAN, No worries my friend,I have found the Hawks pick for this year. Mason McTavish. Because of COVID shutdowns he went over to Switzerland to play this year. He is a 6 Ft 2 Inch 211 Pound Dynamic Offensive Center who scores at will,wins faceoffs,plays defense,and is a great playmaker setting up teammates. He should be available at pick 11 if a goalie or 2 are taken in the top 10.

  22. TW – I had mentioned McTavish earlier in this thread – that’s twice we’ve agreed lately – this has to stop ; )

  23. McTavish or Coronato!

    SB will try to trade up for Late 1st too. If his “right guy” is still around.

  24. 2023 draft
    Bedard and that Russian kid Michkov– Look to be future HOF’s –Kane/Crosby kinda good.

    would love to see Hawks –build multiple picks for that 2023 lotto
    Go Colliton go!!!!

  25. Anyone who cannot figure out that picking earlier gives you an advantage is just plain simple!

  26. Ian, CHI may have those stats for 1-3/4-12/19th pick area but I think the whole league of all drafts/going back enough for sample size its 70/30% the better player comes from 4-12 then 19th area.

    Thats what I mean.

    Same thing for my stats on the 1st half of 2nd rounds. CHI has drafted gems in the 1st half and not the 2nd half of 2nd rounds. The thing there is thats just us/our hostorey for two decades.

    For the entire league its prob 70/30% as well.

    So its easy to say which ever way. The odds are way higher at 4-12 then 19th for a better player the majority of the time.

  27. If I actually believer that we could get two top pair Defensemen and another top 6 FW from 19th area then sure lets get blown out by TB/VEG untl were ready every yr and pick 19th.

    I would rather get top 10 draft skill players and have shots at top 3 picks each yr on the yrs were not ready yet and get our choice 9 players ahread of selection.

    To me its a big as getting the 30-40th pick then the 50th pick because like you guys point out we have done very well in the 30-45th area in getting gems.

    30-45
    Comeesso
    Vlassic
    Debrincat
    Saad
    Bolland
    Bicks

    45-60
    Keith
    Crow

    So some in the 2nd but Moar in the 1st half of 2nd rounds.

    I just like the 70/30% of getting the better player in drafts/for all teams not just our stats for 1st rounds. Now for 2nd rounds I am ll for our stats the two decades.

  28. WRAP, Its scary. I didn’t see your post on McTavish until after I posted mine. There must be a scary cold wind blowing through the rest of the NHL knowing that WRAP and yours truly have combined forces to better the Chicago Blackhawks!

  29. Stape, I am not trying to argue here about this. Sure we got some good players from 15-30 in drafts. Bootom line is not guaranteed I think its 70/30% that the players is better/and chance of elite from the 4-12 area then 19th area.

    And I want 30-45ths not 45-60ths.

    Hey we got Reichel he can be really good. With this top 10 draft pick we have this draft I want a better player then Reichel like those three you guys mentioned. Mctavish Lobos other.

  30. Let’s all hope that after Borgstrom arrives,McTavish is drafted, Barratt makes the roster and Gaudette turns into the player that he is that we never have to consider the possibility of having Strome and Kamph at Center or hold our collective breaths hoping that Toews returns and Dach transforms himself into a top line Center this season,they can give him all the time that he needs to harden and refine his game.

  31. Mo, obviously if you pick higher, more good players still available to choose from. Drafting in top 3 or even 5 is often pretty obvious who is going there and just final order tbd. After that from say 6 to 20 or so next group isn’t as obvious and results don’t always reflect that safe logic like top4 or 5 does, because as pointed out it becomes more of a crap shoot. How much is getting a top 12 pick outside of top 4 or 5 worth vs a 13 to 19 pick and playing hard as a team and getting playoff experience chance to grow together. Same as 45 to 60 if Mitchell, Comesso and Kayumov pan out that could change the conversation there quite a bit too. There is life without years of tanking and becoming the Oilers.

  32. TimW as I was saying there earlier McTavish was playing wing at world under 18s where alot of scouts project him in the pros, so be not a given he becomes a center, either way he would be a great pick and looked awesome in the tournament.

  33. What I saw of McTavish in the U18s was also favourable and I like that he’s more likely to be a power forward than a centre – power forwards are in hot demand on the Hawks

  34. Ian&WRAP, With the current state of the Center position on the Hawks and the fact that they played little Suter at the position most of the year,I would think that McTavish would grasp a top Center position on this team like a duck to water. He reminds me of a young Ryan Oreilley with a better shot. He is also on the plus side on faceoffs. But, if he is better at Power Forward that will certainly work too given that this team does not have any of those types on the roster. It looks like Lambos,Ceulemans,and Chayka would be the last Defensemen taken in the 1st round as it drops off significantly after the projected top 15 picks. Ceulemans is projected to be a top 4 type of NHL D Man. Sillinger at Center looks good too.

  35. Buttons is really high on Ceulemans potential, thinks he is a possibly top 10 talent but he is a risk reward, longer term project type pick, that could be worth it.

  36. I saw a couple IIHF U18 games – so small sample size – and I liked McTavish but he didn’t WOW me. He seemed like an agitator type in the Andrew Shaw mode in that he played with an edge but also prone to take penalties. Like I said – small sample size, but I would lean to either Sillenger, Lambos or Lucius depending who is still on the board.

  37. Ian
    Iff they move down a 5- 8 spot means they can get Ceuleman with pick 17-19 and get another draft pick ..iff that’s the pick they want .
    Or find a way to get him with a trade deal.( pick for prospect and 2 round pick from Vegas . .
    Still to far in time from now. ;)

  38. Think your right about things you say there and think I am right as well.

    Like these draft players were in for and having first selection of the group were looking at instead of getting the 5th of the 5 at 19th pick.

    I like having the choice not getting the other like BoQ for those who didnt like him as much as Defensemen that went 7th.

    Just like the choice. We got lucky Teravainen fell to 19 he should have been top 12.

  39. Assuming the Hawks stay where they are and essentially take the 11th player in the draft, I would still look to Wallstedt, if available..I think he would provide the best value at that spot in the draft. There don’t seem to be any line drivers in that 11-13 range, and that’s really what the Hawks need, even more so than size or physicality(although they could use more of that as well).. the Hawks desperately need forwards/centers who can generate offensive zone entries single-handedly..Right now, the list is Kane and Cat..maybe Dach and/or Reichel in the future..but I don’t see that type of player in the Hawks range this year..so would I rather the Hawks draft the 3th best center in the draft, or the 3th best winger, or the top goaltender? For this year, it’s the goaltender. Take the best ranked at the position if he falls to us. If Wallstedt is gone, then I hope the Hawks lean towards Fyodor, who already plays a 200 ft game and at 18, sounds like he’s already one of the better defensive forwards in this draft..when everything else is equal, give me the player who has an aspect of his game that already shows it will translate to the NHL..he’s also a natural center, and like someone already commented, McTavish is already getting reps at winger and I don’t think he plays center in the NHL..McTavish isn’t a bad prospect at all, but he would be third for me after the other two I just mentioned..

  40. S7, by Fyodor – do you mean Fyodor Svechkov? He is projected to go in the 3rd round. Unless the rating I’m looking at is way off – no way you use the #11 pick when he should be available to get with one of the later picks.

  41. Dach Toews Kubalik
    DCat Borgstrom Kane
    Kurashev Suter Hagel
    Guadette Entwistle Hardman

    Boqvist Kalynuk
    Beaudin Keith
    Zadorov Murphy

    Lankinen

  42. JR, We can do much better with that last lineup brother. We know Toews will not be in the opening night lineup and if Suter is playing Center Bowman has not done his job in the off-season. I would expect that at the most,only 1 of the Beaudin/Boqvist duo will be in the opening night lineup. I am hoping for a couple of Centers and a strong power forward to be added to your lineup. A top 2 D pairing would be spectacular but realistically at least 1 more solid D Man added.

  43. Slayer, like that insight question for me is just like where do you get top pair Defensemen from its draft or ufa.

    Which way is easier to get players with physical draft or ufa.

    It would seem like top pair Defensemen and the driver players are harder to come by and draft those and add those pshyical player from trade/ufa.

    So the Hoss/Saad/other type players are the ones to draft 200ft players.

  44. TimW said: “We KNOW Toews will not be in the opening night lineup …”. I don’t KNOW whether or not Toews will return and as far as I know no one else posting on a message board does either … well, except you and I’d love to hear how you KNOW that.

    My gut feel is 51/49 that he will not return to the Hawks but until I hear otherwise I’m going to hold out hope that he will return and not only return but also his level of play will still be the same as in the playoff bubble last year.

    Regarding adding players – I hope the Hawks don’t blow their salary cap wad before this “Point-C” development stage has transitioned to Point-B meaning the young players are in their 3rd/4th seasons which won’t be in 2021/22 and maybe not even in 2022/23. Using a huge chunk of the salary cap for veteran players before the rest of the team is ready to compete with the best teams could end up strapping the Hawks ability to get to the Point-A level because due to salary cap constraints.

    Regarding Bowman not doing his job if Suter is at center – according to many he hasn’t been and won’t be doing his job no matter what he does or doesn’t do. It’s like Bowman sucking goes without saying, except unfortunately it continues to be said so I guess it doesn’t actually go without saying.

  45. Lukas Reichel– Leading ALL scorers after 2 games at World Championships

    2g / 3a in 2 games— NOT bad for the 19 year old!

    He is a LOCK to make Impact next year– relentless/IQ like Hagel- and Hands /Play making somewhere between Aho/TT.

  46. Question we get 2nd or 3rd do you pick the 2nd choice of the Defensemen or those FW Wallsted Sillinger Tavish Lysell

    We know what we need/donot have right now or coming already. So its better to get what harder to get in draft/trade/ufa in the draft.

  47. Mo, you can a draft a top pairing potential DMan and be looking at 4 or 5 years before they are ready to impact Nhl roster. So that doesn’t stop them from pursuing a high end ufa on a 4 year deal or so. Hamilton the biggest name this year or wait a year. A blueline to build on going forward and start year something like.
    Murphy/ Hamilton
    Keith/ Kalynuk
    Zadorov/ Boqvist
    Stillman
    With Beaudin/Mitchell top pair in Rfd. to start the year ready for callups that when needed. I wouldn’t mind that at all.

  48. MO-
    if we r lucky enough to move up- I am happy to take Big D man at 2/3 spot

    Or

    Eklund – Swede- who looks like he has great motor/IQ- and elite Upside -like the Pettersson kid for Vancouver

  49. Reichel will be playing in a World Championship Tournament Game on Monday at Noon on the NHL Network Channel for those who want to get an early look before he signs with the Hawks in a few weeks.

  50. @ebonyraptor..yes, Fyodor Svechkov is who I’m talking about..personally, I like eliteprospects.com as a baseline for prospect rankings..then I look at TSN, The Athletic, etc..some have Fyodor as a mid to late first rounder..some have him later..not sure who has him as a third rounder but I guess some of that could be due to the nature of this draft..even pundits draft boards are going to have a lot of variance this year..but I love his game, so I tend to lean towards where eliteprospects and dobberprospects have him which is at 13 and 17 respectively..of course, if the Hawks could get him in the 2nd, that would be fantastic..Wallstedt and Fyodor would be quite the 1-2 punch to begin our draft..

    @morrison, not a fan of signing a ufa to secure a number one defenseman..those contracts tend not to age well since most don’t hit ufa status until they’re 27-28 and then they want an 8 year deal..but you’re paying a premium for what they’ve done in the past vs how they’ll perform in the future..look at Erik Karlsson and Drew Doughty’s extensions for examples of how those contracts can turn into nightmare scenarios..I would look at the draft or the trade market..at least through those avenues, you can secure a defenseman who is younger so you’ll have them during at least part of their prime..

  51. @morrison..agreed regarding how to add physicality..you can pay for toughness and grit through the ufa market but it’s more difficult and expensive to pay for skill through the ufa market..so draft your 200 ft. players who can drive play and score since they’re rarely available through free agency and if they are, you’re going to overpay..then fill in by signing some Bickell and Bolland types as ufas..

  52. @bluto, if Eklund falls to 11, the Hawks should run to the podium..an elite playmaker who’s a one man offensive zone entry..I don’t see a scenario where he drops but I’d be so happy to be wrong! Yes, if the Hawks were fortunate enough to land at 2, then just take whichever Wolverine is available, Power or Beniers..

  53. Slayer you may not like the idea of signing a high end ufa Dman, but reality is what is your plan for the next 5 years until your ready to win with him. There is a pretty good group of forwards ready or getting close to wanting to win right now, think they are just gonna sit around sucking every year waiting, i doubt that. Keith and Seabrook were a few years ahead of Toews and Kane, thats the way to hit prime together. Draft one but and develop but still need to fill the void for a few years.

  54. Another thing to ponder on, if you are going to sign an ufa and worried about caphit, this is probably the most opportune time to do that with least cap ramifications. Flat cap covid year may make it the time to act.

  55. I would have been willing to sign up for the Drew Doughty nightmare scenario. That man is a horse with a motor that doesn’t stop. I would be willing to also ride the Seth Jones,Zach Werenski nightmare scenario also. Toss in Olesiak and I will take my chances. Not interested in waiting around for 5 years. No thanks,let’s get going now. The status quo is going to see us buried in a hurry when the schedule and division is back to normal.

  56. Congratulations to the Chicago STEEL on another Championship!!! Some of those young players would look good wearing the Indian Head.

  57. @ian @tim w..the issue with the offseason is that hope springs eternal..these conversations are easier to have during the season when we’re reminded every other night how far away the Hawks are from contending for a cup..sounds like you would both like the Hawks to pay a defenseman 7 or 8 mil a year so you’re not as bored while watching them next season..but that isn’t how a rebuild works..first you’re horrible, then, if you’re lucky, you’re a little better and then finally, you’re back to a respectable team who should compete for the playoffs every year..but there aren’t any quick fixes..and in a flat cap, throwing money at the problem rarely helps..aren’t we still paying Olli Maatta? Aren’t we still trying to move on from DeHaan’s contract?

    As for some of the players mentioned, how good did Doughty make the Kings this year? If he’s such an incredible player, why are they in the lottery? They ended up with a better draft position than the Hawks (and the Doughty contract will be the worst in hockey in two years with four more seasons to go)..how good did Seth Jones and Zach Werenski make Columbus this year? They literally have two top pairing defensemen, and again, they ended up with a higher draft position than the Hawks..Dougie Hamilton is not going to change the fortune of this franchise, but his 8 year, $56 mil dollar contract could rob this franchise of it’s future-if his presence means not being able to keep Kubalik, bridge Boqvist and Dach, extend Cat once his bridge is complete, etc..imagine if Reichel has an Elias Pettersson start to his NHL career and the Hawks couldn’t keep him because of Dougie Hamilton’s contract..that’s actually what’s happening in Vancouver right now..too many bad contracts for players who aren’t difference makers and now they’re going to have to make some tough decisions in order to retain Hughes and Pettersson -with another decision on Boeser coming in one more year..they’re the example of what not to do when rebuilding.

    As for a flat cap meaning that the Hawks could sign a number one defenseman for 50 or 60 cents on the dollar? If so, by all means..but I don’t see it happening..

    As for this idea that the Hawks tiered their players so Keith and Seabrook were just coming into their own by the time Toews and Kane were drafted, well that’s true. But they were all our own draft picks. And it’s not why the Hawks won in 2010. It’s because they saw that they had a nucleus that was getting closer, and they went out and signed Campbell and Huet in 2008, and then Hossa in 2009..but they waited until they were on the cusp before putting a ton of cash resources into free agents..

    The Hawks aren’t Vegas spending on Pietrangelo because they’re a cup contender and they’re not Colorado trading for Toews and Saad because they’re a cup contender..the Hawks are a lottery team..makes zero sense to make a significant cash commitment to any free agent, forward or defenseman..

    As for my plan, well Ian, you were on the right track..I expect and will be happy to watch the Hawks be horrible again next season and the season after..this Hawks rebuild will take off and start showing returns in 23-24..once Keith is retired and his contract is gone. Once Kane and Toews contracts are up. If they want to re-sign, they can, but at reduced cap hits for a couple years at a time, and once Seabrook’s contract is moved. Which, if it hasn’t been already, will only have one year left and shouldn’t take much to move on from. Moving on from Keith and Seabrook will save the Hawks 12.5 million a season(or one McDavid lol)..reducing Toews and Kane’s annual cap hits from 10.5 a year to maybe even just 7.5 will save an additional 6 mil a year..so 18.5 mil can go towards who? There will be some nice free agents available if the Hawks think that their young players are developing and they’re getting closer. Maybe a 26 year old Dylan Larkin? A 29 year old Matt Dumba? A McKinnon maybe, since Colorado has shown that they don’t like to overpay, even for their franchise players. Or maybe, the best option of all, a hockey trade. The Rangers traded a couple of picks to Carolina for Adam Fox and Carolina let him go because of their depth on the blueline. Now, Adam Fox looks great and Carolina is probably kicking themselves because Fox could have been a cheaper, younger replacement for Hamilton. Point being, there will still be options in a couple of years, whether free agents or trades, to help the Hawks make the jump from borderline NHL playoff team to cup contender..the difference is that the Hawks younger players will be a little more mature, and we’ll have the cap flexibility to make aggressive moves in free agency without having to worry about whether it limits our ability to keep our roster together. There’s just zero reason to shoehorn in a player like Hamilton this offseason (who btw, isn’t good defensively. I thought we wanted to get better defensively..Hamilton’s deficiencies don’t show as much because Carolina has such solid stay at home defensemen..but his negatives would stand out immediately on our team)..

  58. Slayer- I was answering the question of who do Hawks Pic –if they luck into 2/3rd slot

    I pick Big stud D man- 1st choice… 2nd choice -Eklund. well aware he won’t be available at 11

    NO -BIG NO- to Hamilton as D free agent- guy is almost as slow/bad getting back as Seabrook was last 2 years he played. Hamilton- is aging badly/quickly

  59. S7 – tell it brotha! Exactly right. Keep the powder dry until you see the whites of their eyes which will probably be more like 2023/24.

    If the ping pong balls smile on the Hawks – my first and second choice would be Power and Beniers … or maybe Guenther … either one would be my second choice behind Power.

  60. Slayer, the thing is its got to be draft or ufa because trade will cost too much. I konw its not ideal for caphit and total prime yrs theres no other way.

    If it takes 4 yrs for draft Defensemen to be ready as a top pair thats ok becuase we need two of them and the other can come from ufa.

    We have Seabs caphit to use for one and Dunks/other to use for the other so the caphit part of it is fine. Sure not ideal but we have to have the horses or its not going to make a difference.

    Maybe we can win with just one top pair D guy and four 3/4 D guys and one 5 D guy. I donot know. Just that we need more elites to go with our young wave.

    And not be too top heavy but top elite enough those are the players that win the Cups and having a deep roster. Caphit wise have lots of young elc guys so salary cap works. Just like we did 2013-2016. There was a mix of caphits.

  61. I am good with addint the top pair D guy in summer of 22 or 23 closer to when young wave is really ready. Just that we get the horses by the time were ready.

    And that way we have more prime yrs of that D guyd prime yrs left.

    So whos 27/28 in 2 yrs from now thats elite.

  62. I am on the record as an anti Dougie Hamilton guy. He is slow and lazy and always has been. Anyone putting the Kings demise on Doughty needs to watch a little more Kings hockey. Seth Jones is 26 and Zach Werenski is 23 years old. As a duo they played just about every other shift,along with David Savard,in stomping the fully loaded Tampa Bay Lightning team for 2 and half years. And that was with a team that had maybe 1 and a half solid forward lines. You may remember that same Lightning team that rag dolled and punked the Hawks on an every game basis. I also like Oleksiak from the Stars and Larrson from the Oilers. Don’t need to see anymore of the Keith-Boqvist duo or Zadorov tossing hand grenade passes at forwards feet while he doesn’t clear the front of the net. Like it or not the Hawks have a group of very similar young,small,and soft Defensemen that will eventually not grow all the way into a real top 4 every other shift D Men. This organization received a great opportunity with the COVID division and schedule to get a firsthand look at how far away they are defensively to competing. If this team pins its hopes on Boqvist,Mitchell,Beaudin being in the nightly lineup and the return of Toews,they will be spending quite awhile taking the same beatings from the likes of the Stars,Avalanche,Wild,Jets,Preds,and Blues this fall. Its OK to fight back and compete while developing young players.

  63. Slayer obviously next year will be a development year. I don’t claim to have a crystal ball that tells me what every player’s future is from the time their 17 and makes development and scouting obsolete. A poster a while back mentioned are the Blackhawks developing these young forwards for other teams and not for Blackhawks to win with, i hope not but seems some are hoping they are i guess. If as the case seems no top Dman is currently in system how are you going to take talent amassed to next level. Bowman said he was going to add impact players in next year or so, I never said Hamilton was my first choice but best available this year inad an ufa. A top D is void that exists, it apparently isn’t blocking anybody. If you trade, you give up a high end price in picks and prospects and they still want a long term contract to stay, so don’t see logic in that being so much better than an ufa. I want to see them develop good youngsters and ma8nta8n a?solid pipeline but i am not for going for pung pong balls fo next 5 years just because they can, becoming the Oilers.

  64. Ian, It quite often seems that when its suggested on going ufa or trade to get an established hard on the puck D Man or 2 fans panic and default to the Dougie Hamilton or Pietrangelo scenario of paying 7 to 9 Million for 1. I believe there is middle ground that will help this team win games and develop their young talent at the same time.

  65. Eddie Oldcheck would be FURIOUS with the Hawks if Hamilton comes to Chicago. The guy can’t go more than a shift without blasting away at Hamilton. And then he catches up if he falls behind in his criticism.

    Actually, it would be a blast to listen to!!

    But alas, put me in the NO THANKS column about Hamilton. I like my Dmen to be able to at least appear to play the defensive part of the position too. I have to agree with EddieO on this one.

  66. Ian you seem to have the Oilers on your brain.

    Just because the Oilers have bad management and have made terrible draft picks
    dosent mean high draft picks are not extremely important.

    Name one team that has won a Stanley Cup in the last 10 years that has not had high draft picks.

    An actual rebuild will take time there will be no thing called a quick fix to speed up the process. If Stan Bowman thinks that picking up impact players in the next year or so will make the hawks a Stanley Cup contender I personally believe he will be making a huge mistake.

    Bowman should be trying to add as many young assets and draft picks as possible.

  67. Stape didn’t have to look very far, look at the Lightning last summer, Hedman at 2nd overall in 2009 was only top 10 pick of theirs to contribute unless you count Stamkos watching from press box. Other top 10 picks like Koekkoek 10th, Connelly 6th and Droiun 3rd have long since moved on. Vasilevsky at 19th in 2010 one of few of their 1st rounders they had on cup winning roster.

  68. I want ping pong balls when were not a legit 12-16 team/yet. Once we are then sure 19th picks for players like Reichel are good.

  69. If Tampa was one of the Stanley Cup winners in last year 10 years and Hedman was picked at 2 you are making my case.

    Look at the last 10 Stanley Cup winners find a team that didn’t have a high draft pick.
    Keep looking Ian!

  70. Not to nitpick but who didi they get for Koekkoek ConnellyDroiun. Any top 12 ish picks.

    To me getting a 30-40/5 pick is huge so I look at that tioo. Know your talking else.

  71. Mo, you want to know what those guys brought, yes Sergachev came from Habs for Drouin who wanted the flashy french forward, if your depending on that kind of trade to happen again your dreaming. Connelly brought 2 picks that had no impact on Bolts roster and Koekkoek plus a 5th for Rutta and a 7th, a pretty good trade but no gamebreaker by any stretch.

    Stape so your agreeing old guys like Kane, Toews and Hedman are still players you need to build a cup winner around.

  72. Lol Tampa has great team depth they are STACKED with talent and have a great chance of winning the Stanley Cup again this year. Tampa didn’t get that good in just a couple of years, they built through the draft Hedman, Kucherov, Stamkos, Point were Tampa picks and have been able to trade their number 3 overall first round pick Jonathan Drouin for first round pick 9th overall to add depth on their defense.

    Hedman is favored to win the Norris

    At this point in their careers their careers I would definitely not be building around guys like Kane and Toews. If I were the Hawks I would be trading these guys to Stanley Cup contenders for young assets and draft picks to help speed up the so called rebuild.
    With Chicagos lack of talent and depth Kane and Toews can’t lead the hawks to the playoffs. At this point in their careers Toews and Kane value would be with an already deep team and their biggest value for Chicago is their trade value.

    In Hedmans case he is already playing for a cup contender which has already been built.

  73. I didnt know/remember just wondering it just seemed like TB got a bunch of top 12 picks when they sucked starting with Stmakos and the group.

    I know you can build a Cup team without top 12 picks but thats got to be hard or like VEG who gets a top 5 roster with no elites for free from Bettman and now Bettman changes the expansion different. That team got some elites since then because they know it takes that to win. They were the balanced team ever and that style of garbage goals 95% of time.

    They still went out and got elites one after another to get what they were missing.

    If COL chokes being inexperienced Cup experience watch VEG win this yr.

    I just want two top pair and another player like Hoss/Saad kind.

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