8 thoughts on “NHL Posts Full CBA Proposal Online

  • October 17, 2012 at 9:50 am

    Hope I am wrong…

    NHL offer- We are trying to make peace w/ this offer and 50/50 split… message to the fans… “we are not the bad guys” – the Players are at fault…
    Actually great PR- The Fans cannot hate the individual players for ever… and won’t.
    so the NHL saves face by printing full offer.

    Fehr’s response- IMO- Screw you owners… in total $$$, the players are losing too much.

    The question is- Do the Player’s actually have a say or is it Fehr and Company???
    If it is Fehr- NO DEAL- IMO
    If Player’s have real say– they should take… and owner’s know it- they can only make this kind of $$$ so long in their careers.

  • October 17, 2012 at 10:02 am

    Master stroke by Count Chocula the Commissioner and the owners. The players would be wise to seize upon this deal. The elephant in the room is too many teams losing money thanks to the Count’s silly expansion strategy. Get while the getting is good if you are smart Donald Fehr, aka the human hemorrhoid.

  • October 17, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    Fehr makes recommendations to the players based on their best interests per the group of appointed leaders he meets with.

    He held out and the league came to the table with a substantially better proposal than they initially presented. Now the pressure’s on Fehr to bring something equally improved to the table on Thursday.

    I prefer to reserve judgement until we see how the story ends. Tossing Fehr under the bus doesn’t hold a lot of weight until we A) officially lose regular season games forever, and B) the players get hosed (again). Neither has happened (yet).

  • October 17, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    Reports are now coming out that the 2013-14 cap would be in the neighborhood of $62M. If we include Olesz (not knowing what buyouts could look like and if there will be a loophole for players loaned to a European team), the Hawks are on the hook for around $60M for 18 NHL players ($57M & 17 w/out including Olesz). Those totals do not include Stalberg, Leddy, Kruger, Bickell or a backup goalie. However, with that in mind, the Hawks would be in an intriguing position based on the number of players that would have 1-2 years left on their deals at relatively moderate cap hits, like Hjalmarsson & Carcillo.

  • October 17, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    Per CapGeek, 268 roster contracts are set to expire after the 2012-13 season, 215 more to expire after 2013-14.

  • October 17, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    This 50/50 offer the owners have made is a shrewd PR move. Under the old CBA HRR did not include everything that the NFL and NBA have up for grabs. In the NFL and NBA all revenue is up for discussion therefore when they have a 50/50 split in revenues it truly is 50/50. Here is how HRR differs and it is why Fehr will probably push for something between 53-55 percent share for players. The following was taken from Sports Illustrated:

    The current CBA excludes the following items from HRR: money teams make from waiver claims on players; money the NHL makes from moving teams or granting expansion franchises; revenues that teams receive from operating other clubs, such as AHL affiliates; fines collected from players and teams; any money teams make through financial transactions, such as loans, interest income or investments; and the sale or leasing of real estate.

    Now, to make things just a little more confusing, when it determines the salary cap, the NHL doesn’t use HRR. The league also subtracts Direct Costs from it. Those Direct Costs include “any costs, including fixed and variable costs, attributable to a revenue-generating activity” — anything spent while accumulating HRR, including the salaries of employees whose duties contribute to the revenue activities. Direct Costs currently don’t include “an allocation of arena occupancy costs, and general and administration expenses, such as finance, support and general management function costs.” And that inclusion is something the owners in their opening proposal reportedly want changed in the next CBA: They want to be able to subtract from HRR what it costs them to occupy their arenas and a percentage of their finance, support and general management expenses. That could mean millions of dollars taken from the available HRR to be shared by the players

  • October 17, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    Should have also added that since their opening proposal, with this latest proposal, the owners appear to be fine not pushing the Direct Cost issue, but they would leave the HRR to the current definition

  • October 17, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    I agree with you Tab everyone hold off on bashing Fehr. Like you Tab I think Fehr comes with a reasonable offer from NHLPA side tomorrow and then the real negotiating will begin.

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