Panarin, Blue Jackets Sprint Past Blackhawks
Artemi Panarin skated into the United Center on Saturday night as one of the favorite former Hawks in the league, and treated fans to a reminder of what was.
Columbus dominated the action early in the first period but Cam Ward kept the Blackhawks in the game with a few big saves. Pierre-Luc Dubois scored his 22nd of the season to open the scoring 12:36 into the game.
The Blackhawks started to push back and were able to get on the board when Patrick Kane finished a pretty passing play with his 35th of the season.
The goal extended Kane’s point streak to 17 games.
Unfortunately the Kane-Panarin magic was still there… except Panarin was skating for the wrong team. He scored 17 seconds after the Kane goal to give Columbus a 2-1 lead.
Cam Atkinson scored with 38 seconds left in the first to give Columbus a 3-1 lead after Connor Murphy whiffed on a bouncing puck. Panarin had an assist on the Atkinson goal giving him two points in the opening 20 minutes, during which the Blackhawks actually out-shot the Jackets 15-13.
Chicago fought back in the second period but struggled to solve Sergei Bobrovsky. Finally, with 34 seconds left in the period, Jonathan Toews was able to cut the lead back to one.
Erik Gustafsson and Kane were credited with assists on the goal, extending Kane’s assist streak to a club-record 16 games.
The Blackhawks out-shot the Jackets 20-9 in the second period but only scored once, a frustrating reality with the Hawks’ defensemen struggling.
In the third the Blackhawks couldn’t beat Bobrovsky again and the Blue Jackets added two more goals to finish the night.
The back-breaking goal came off the stick of Panarin – and he didn’t know it. Seth Jones unloaded from the point and the shot deflected off Panarin’s stick and past Ward. The goal is the 300th point of Panarin’s career and came only 12 seconds into the third period, deflating any momentum the Hawks had after the Toews goal late in the second period.
Josh Anderson added his 20th of the season 15 minutes later to close the books for the night. Chicago lost 5-2.
Saturday night was the first time since 2013 that Kane and Toews scored in the same game and the Blackhawks lost.
Toews put four shots on net and won 13 of 19 faceoffs. Kane put a team-leading six shots on net. Brandon Saad, who the Hawks brought back in the deal that sent Panarin to Columbus, put five shots on net but didn’t score.
Carl Dahlstrom didn’t have a great night on the blue line and was limited to 14:34.
Dylan Sikura skated 13:48 and was credited with three shots on net, but was robbed of a great scoring chance by Bobrovsky early in the game.
Marcus Kruger, Brendan Perlini and Chris Kunitz were held under nine minutes each and combined to put one shot on net.
Ward stopped 25 of 30 in the loss.
Wow. Better team won. Panerin is a stud.
Sikura had a chance to look like an NHLer instead of a little kid and could not bury a prime chance.
Perlini played instead of Hayden because…?
Toews and Kane did what they could and nobody followed,
I get Perlini in the lineup tonight because Columbus has speed everywhere… but Kunitz > Hayden continues to piss me off. He got to 1,000 now sit him or trade him. No reason to waste minutes on him any longer.
The Hawks played great in the second period. Bobrovsky was tremendous. It wasn’t the Hawks’ night running in to a hot goaltender in the second and one of the more fortunate goals you will ever see to open the third. That said, the CBJ defense stifled them in the third. Craig Nigrelli above stole a little of my thunder as I was going to say the Sikura choked on that prime chance in the first. That puck has to be elevated and he panicked and just pushed it toward the net. The Kunitz thing remains a mystery. But I gave up on Hayden two games ago and Perlini about the same time. Strome made some good passes tonight, but Bobrovsky was just too tough. You knew there would be some reverting to the mean when the win streak ended. We are seeing it now. To hold your heads high, you have to torment your opponent in the third period and that didn’t happen. CBJ has a pretty good team. Panarin might stay there.
Tab. All the pomp and circumstance around Kunitz the other night and this year reminds me of Peter Bondra. He came in and scored a few goals to get to 500 and there was this big production. Both guys achieved pretty much everything in their careers then came to Chicago at the very end.
SELL at the TDL.
They gave up 5 goals because they individually and collectively suck at playing defense. They scored only 2 goals because Columbus plays a good structured defensive game and Bobrovsky played outstanding.
There are plenty of players worthy of criticism tonight but none more than Seabrook. I love Seabs, I do, but he can’t play at NHL speed anymore. But it’s more than just being to slow to play, it’s his all around game in the d-zone is a hindrance to the team winning. The puck bounces away from him and he’s too slow to get to it before an opponent gets to it. He gets the puck taken away from him with regularity or else he fires a bad pass or ices it. He’s not bad in the o-zone but he’s a train wreck in the d-zone. I’m not sure the cost to buy him out but I’m pretty sure they would be paying for it for like 10 years – but just do it already. The buyout cost on the cap for 10 years is less worse than having him on the ice.
My hopes for Sikura have diminished since the beginning of the season. However, I thought he played fairly well tonight and the shot he took was fine – Bobrovsky just made an outstanding toe save on it. Bobrovsky robbed a bunch of other guys tonight too so I think hanging it on Sikura for not scoring there is unfair criticism. If I had to place a wager I would put my money down that Sikura doesn’t develop into an everyday NHL player – but he still has a chance and the fact that he’s played a little better these last 2 games gives me a little glimmer of hope.
Prospects: Chl
Gravel 24 save shutout 2nd star
No prospects in Chl, Ncaa, Ushl or Europe recorded a point today.
Lavoie who could be on the radar when Blackhawks make 1st pick this summer, him and Kaliyev have been called Clones, had 2g in a dominating performance, 2g 2a night before. Has size 6’4″ 200lbs., bigger than Kaliyev and at this point has 6
more goals and 15 more points or so than Kaliyev. Somebody to keep an eye on.
Icehogs
Johnson 1g 1a 2nd star
Jokiharju 2a 3rd star
Nilsson 2a
Tuulola 1g
Ejdsell 1a and shutout winner
Lankinen 33 saves on 37 shots win
Hopefully after showcase for tdl over Jokiharju recalled.
Aggregately speaking, the bottom six forwards (sans Saad) are a joke. Anisimov should never kill penalities (if you want to call it that) ever again. I’ll give Bowman a pass since he got rid of Manning for something constructive — trade Anisimov for whatever, let Johnson play the last 20 games whatever and see what he can do. Saad is being wasted playing on the line he has the last couple games.
If all four lines were solid, the Hawks would control the puck and the play more, and spend far less time in there own zone. The D men would not be exposed like they were tonight. Speaking of D men, Keith and Seabrook are not going anywhere. Gustafsson is a weapon, like someone pointed out, Burns on San Jose is a similar, experienced player, he’s got to stay. If the last four (D men) top two picks (per Bowman) are all that and a slice, trade Murphy. It’s not like he is an offensive force or shutdown D man either. He’s just a guy back there. He’s “ok” as Q liked to say. He didn’t mind him.
Lastly, a forward can either score and or create offense or he can’t. Debrincat came right in last year off the street and has been a top player from day one. Has Sikura scored a goal yet last season or this season? What was the big deal of signing him or not? Haven’t we seen this deal before w college forwards Bowman drafts and the courting is a waste is time. Matt Carey, Leblanc or something before that, Hayden, as well. I’ve seen enough. Cut bait.
Too bad Highmore was hurt all year. he can actually play, he would have helped the bottom six. If the bottom six isn’t solidified next season, the Hawks will be around .500 again — if they’re lucky.
Tab, thanks for the stat on K&T scoring but losing first game since 2013.
If Hawks have any chance of a serious playoff team next year, they must acquire: 1. quality d-man who is physical 2. goalie 3. winger or center. Need to sell expendable assets at TDL to create cap space.
Why cut bait on Sikura? Why not give him the rest of the season and see what happens? It’s not like he’s blocking a clearly better player from getting into the lineup. And it’s not like the Hawks are going anywhere this season anyway so play him and make a decision on whether to cut bait after the season.
The injury to Kampf hurt the structure on the team. He was centering a checking line and adding a defensively responsible player to be with Saad on that line. Saad is now pretty much left alone to play defense on that line unless Krueger centers for him. AA is simply too slow to help out defensively, and now we don’t have any kind of a shutdown line. Sikura does not fit on the line with Saad if JC is going to continue using Saad as his shutdown line. You may as well quit worrying about matchups and put the 4th line against the top line of the other team, and let Saad and Sikura try to find offense together. At least you will learn about Sikura, who frankly, hasn’t ever appeared to be an NHL player to me. Give him the chance to play offense, because defense certainly isn’t his forte. I see Caggiula being on 3rd line with Saad next year and we acquire (UFA or trade) for a top line wing for 19 and 88. Sikura has till the end of the year to prove he can play or he is gone.
Saad has been a beast offensively and probably our best defensive forward the last 25 games. His goals don’t get helped with PP time like Dcat (a better pure scorer), but his defense is far superior to Dcat, who is a turnover machine at our defensive blue line. So be careful comparing the 2 of them – totally different players. Dcat fits much better with Strome than with JT and PK. Kahun is still finding his place, but has flashed some offense in the last 15 games.
We have some holes that are pretty obvious. Without a checking line, we cannot compete with quality teams. And without a shutdown pair, we simply cannot get further up than the bottom of the playoff picture. Murphy is more a 4 than anything else, and right now he is our best defender. Dahlstrom is going backwards like Forsling, Rutta and Joki have done in the past 16 months. This is NOT a good pattern.
We need to find a young Dman with some experience or even a younger veteran of 26-28 to step in and calm things down. Keith and Seabrook create their own chaos as most seem to notice here, and I for one appreciate that JC is now keeping them together. It at least helps get more out of Keith because Seabrook can cover for his adventurous nature. None of the kids have had any success in that role. Asking Keith to be more of a stay-at-home guy diminishes his asset to the team.
Well luckily the game wasn’t shown in Ontario but questions for this illustrious panel of “expert armchair GMs”
1. Why play Kunitz or Perlini?
2. If Anisimov is such a stiff ( and he is!) why play him 15-17 mins per game?
3. As with Hayden last year, when (or if?) this year can some of the college kids get inserted into the lineup?
4. After TDL, why can’t Colliton just play the rookies from Rockford,( Sikura etc) and prospects on bottom 6 forwards, and D5-7?
5. Can Seabrook spend more time in the press box?
If I were Stan, and thank God I’m not, other than 19, 88, 20, 60, 12, 17, 91 I would have all others ( except Jokiharju) on the trading block for a goaltender, top 4 D, and some big, fast, physical, skilled forwards….there – I’ve got it off my chest !
2 FW at 5m or Elite at 10m = same result around 40 goals/ppg. Same difference.
Bread Man not two 5m FW leaves adding an extra defensive FW, thats what we need.
Every win, were still 3 games behind 8 seed. And still a few games from top 3-6 pick, bwahahahahaha.
Glen, just an opinion but Perlini is an rfa and i think they want him to show a reason to give him contract. Kunitz maybe Colliton feels he plays his system better than some others and he is using him as the bar to play.
Always thought AA defense was overrated but he does back check, willing to go to front of net and can score.
Mitchell top Ncaa candidate to join, almost certain to be in regionals on Mar. 29-31, so only be last game or 2 all he could play. Barrett and Krys may available after Mar. 16th but good chance they would go to Rockford. If Bowman can sign Kubalik from Swiss league he would be best option for a late season prospect add. All Chl players be April at least before they could be available likely.
Rosters expand as long your not over salary cap after tdl so that could be an option. Depending on moves he makes and they may not want to hurt Rockford roster for riding bench mostly in Chicago.
I would like to see them try Seabrook as a checking line winger. Maybe if its not in cards to trade him, could reinvent him there, understands game at high level, can score a bit, good shot, understands defensive game. Would create room for young dmen to play and could be a win all around.
Silent Spot-thanks for saying that about Kampf-he is underrated by some on this site for what he does-other than not playing with Kane due to inability to put the puck in the ocean-he can fit in most lines, 3rd or 4th and can slide in when an injury occurs.
He’s also tough to play against (a pain in the ass to other teams) and the Hawks have about 2 (maybe 3) guys like that.
8 bright spots this year-pick your order after Strome #1, Delia #2
Strome, Delia, Gus, Caggiula, Kampf, Dalstrom, Kahun, KK
Not sure all 8 are long term Hawks but they have opened some eyes.
Ian- where are you getting your stats from?
Re: Lavoie versus Kaliyev
Kaliyev- 45g, 41a –86 pts and is almost a full year younger than Lavoie
Lavoie- 29g, 36a — 65 pts
I like Lavoie… but i like Kaliyev more… Kaliyev just scores goals- (kinda like Dcat- great release– and Nose for when/where to score)
Looked at Kaliyevs last years numbers Wall 21g and 48 pts. My mistake. Not saying Lavoie is better he is getting hot and will be at Memorial Cup as his team is host and could be someone worth paying attention too.
Ian, I do enjoy listening to your comments. Stats of our prospects is very much appreciated.
Kunitz in the lineup is a really bad coaching decision. Kunitz has zero value.
Putting Seabrook on the wing makes me laugh. How could Seabrook possibly be a checking winger? He wouldn’t be able to catch anyone unless Coach Q gets another coaching job and decides to bring back Michal Rozsival as a winger.
Seabrook as a winger is a very bad idea.
Wall if you want to draft a goal scorer, comparison to Debrincat, he had over 50 goals all 3 years in juniors, 2 before he was drafted and one after.
Gus’s offensive play and showed instinct behind the Blue Jackets net. Make him a forward.
Ian– on Kaliyev
last year- as 16 year old… scored 31 goals
You need new glasses my friend… and Versus Dcat… Kaliyev plays on weak teams that did NOT have McJesus or Strome
Stape seriously i suggest you take look at other rosters around the league, many slow footed wingers very serviceable, but the slow footed dmen are very noticeable in a bad way, and draw alot of criticism.
Stan has sold Colliton on the fact that this line up has playoff potential and it clearly does NOT have the balance to be a playoff team. That is the reason that Colliton plays Kunitz over Hayden, he believes that Kunitz veteran leadership can help guide this team to the playoffs. Colliton is wrong! Hayden may not be a 20 goal scorer but he gives you an honest effort. He checks well, he backchecks like a mad-man and he gets to front of the net.
What scares me is that this team needs to be a HUGE seller at the trade deadline and try to accumulate some young talent and some draft picks, but Stan believes that THIS coach, THIS team and THIS young core can make it to the playoffs. That scares the crap out of me!!
SELL MORTIMER SELL!!!!!!
The Kunitz thing is interesting because he doesn’t seem to be providing much out there, but on the radio pregame before the Devils game Colliton talked about how well he’d been playing lately and that’s why he continued to be in the lineup. Let’s hope there is some method to the lineup madness and that a couple of good moves will be made prior to the deadline.
Guys, put me in the group that really likes 64. So waht if he doesnt score more then 5 goals a yr, that 4th line scoring, 5. 10 is really good for a 4th. Our 4th is checking line when were deep.
We add basically what glenhall61 said, were a top team again/with the young guy NHL ready. We ve been playing with a 3/4 roster all yr, worse in the beginning.
Keep developing everybody and Kane and those guys showtime until were deep.
Tab, I want to commend you for giving the troll I call Shmoopie a forum to vent. It’s obvious Shmoopie has a screw loose – a pathological need to feel superior by what he believes to be denigration of others. Shmoopie’s venting is, in effect, filling a need that would otherwise be filled by potentially more harmful ways than posting on the internet. Shmoopie’s sickness is a ticking time bomb of unknown lethality – better Shmoopie spend time typing on a keyboard than doing something else.
Any thoughts on Duclair`s game last night. Hard to imagine he wouldn`t have been an upgrade on our 3rd or 4th lines to Sikura or Kunitz.
Jim, Duclair is a good skater but not a good hockey player. He’s the type that will look good one moment and then make a bonehead play the next. Using some of the Hawks bottom-6 guys for comparison is using a pretty low bar.
Duclair prob looks better on a team that has a full roster. We do not, yet, last/this yr/
Some great comments and ideas from the earlier posts before the imposter took over.
Outstanding post by Silent Spot 1:40 am. Agree that Saad is a terrific 2-way, only surpassed by Toews and Hossa over the years. Again, his goal against NJ was one of the most skilled you will ever see. Yes, Murphy is a 4. Nothing wrong with that, as long as the Hawks realize need to fill holes the next two years while waiting for Joki, Boq, Mitchell, Beaudin, etc. to develop. Keith is now a 3 (Seabs a 5), meaning we are without a 1-2. Dahl and KK look like 6-7, although there is a chance for improvement. If Gus can fetch a low-mid 2nd rounder or good O prospect, Stan should make the move. In my post just before Silent’s I stated that Hawks need to acquire a skilled physical d-man for next year. Make that 2 skilled d-men.
Agree with GlenHall on who to keep at the TDL. Will Stan gamble and become a buyer to make a run this year or, more wisely, sell (where he can get good value) to acquire picks/prospects, while clearing cap space for the next two years?
Our two 1st round draft picks did well today – Boqvist with 1 goal and 2 assists in London’s 8-5 win and Beaudin with 4 assists in Drummondville’s 6-4 win. Both are having very good seasons.
Other prospects: Europe
Galvas 3 BS 27:50 ice time
Icehogs
Johnson 1g 1a
Davidson 1g
Jokiharju 1a
Nilsson 1a
Gilbert 1a
Martinsen 1a
Lankinen 23saves on 25 shots win Icehogs
Wall yeah 31g 48 pts. Debrincat was standout on a team with alot of stars. Lavoie is dominant player on a one of top teams in Chl. Kayilev is standout for a weak team. Make what you want from it. Their both good.
ER and Ian, thanks for the updates. At this point, who would you rather have, Beaudin, who is starting out extremely well, or Ryan Hartman, who has 10G, 9A, in 61 games?
Things should really percolate on the trade front this week. Buffalo is hemorrhaging and failure to make the playoffs would be a waste of Great seasons by Skinner and Eichel. They desperately need help down the middle. Anisimov would be a good addition for them.
By all accounts, Ottawa is about to trade Duchene. Whoever does not get him, might want Anisimov.
If the Hawks don’t make the playoffs they will probably in the 8-15 range. If there is a d-man or two taken before their pick, then almost for sure at least one of Turcotte, Kaliyev and Lavoie will be available for them to select.
O6, I was never much of a Hartman fan – I liked his “in your face” play and they he annoyed the opposing players but he took a few too many bonehead penalties. So yeah, I like our chances with Beaudin. The thing with Beaudin is that he plays on a very good team which is good that he is the top d-man on the team but he also has a lot of assists because he’s playing with very good scorers. Boqvist, on the other hand, has scored twice as many goals as Beaudin so while they’re both top d-man on their team, Boqvist is more of a goal scorer than Beaudin and therefore I think is the better offensive player.
Original, think we got more then Beau for that Hartman trade.
Can someone post what we actually got. Wasnt Kurachev part of that trade to.
ER, yea Turcotte has dropped on mock drafts since first part of season to like 10-12 area. Walls guy might be the one, all along. Think we still have really good shot at 4-6th pick if we stay around -2 area then lose a few games and right there. Were also still right there to make playoffs. Still just 3 games behind MIN for 8 seed.
Thinking if our -2 goes to +2 then we can a win a few and at +5 might be 8 seed. Otherwise, everyone who wants to sell = wants to get higher pick.
One thing for sure is this. Even with only 3/4 of a full roster (compared to top 5 team/elite team) we do not go 3-16 if not for a very crazy sch-which magnified us playing like shit for those games, among the coaches and ‘tank’ ufas in and Dals and Murf not back yet, is what created this 3-16.
That wont happen again, next yr or any yr going forward. So that 13 games over .500 more we ll be next yr, with same exact roster. I would bet my house that we add at least one good ufa this summer and the young blue chip guys start to come in. So when you add it all up, that right there, just not counting that 3-16 were going to be a good 10 games over .500 next yr, maybe better.
Like someone said, we need 64 and a couple more like him at FW and D to have a legit fair chance of playing top 10 teams/when they play good. Before the game is played. Then we play good and work hard and get deserved wins against BOS and CLB (SAN/VEG) type teams because right now, its not fair before the game starts for our guys to have to play with that disadvantage.
Mo Blackhawks got Beaudin, Kyrashev and Ejdsell for Hartman. Could end up being Bowmans best or one of them.
EB last Chl rankings i saw London 3rd, Drummondville 4th and Halifax 8th.
OTT/COL- 9
NWJ-7
DET- 6
LA- 5
ANA- 4
EDM- 4
CHI- 2
Yea, thats what I was thinking, that is was more then just a really good prospect in Beau. That we got another really good prospect in Kurachev from the trade/pick. Not saying anything agasint people who like 38, just that we got a huge return that will make the wave we have coming, a difference maker, then one 1st round pick.
Sometimes its good to trade for future, with a decent player, and sometimes its not worth it. For the most part everyone here thinking same thing on what we need to add and do at deadline/draft/summer. Still people find ways to argue. What matters is we/everyone here want elite roster again.
You cant always sell high, because sometimes you be left hanging/making a BIG mistake. Sort of have to pick and choose and live with it.
Like when people say ‘you do not have to live with her’.
ER, we paid our dues with bad records last/this yr, so hopefully that goes hand in hand with getting another top 6 skill blue chip player.
We know we wont have these kinds of records again, were too good. Only way is to have enough ‘tank’ ufas in there at once to go with a less then 3/4 roster. Transition yrs for 19 and 20, for high picks/blue chip players. Then 21 and on were building roster to elite, coming from 1/2, now at 3/4, and up from here. really started with Dal/Murf and trades.
For the guys who said 5 is a #4, yea I would like him to be our 4th best D man once we get full and the Four Horsemen are top 4s then we can trade him. Keeping 56 not 5 for the long run might be best. I would look at it how/wahst the best way-which players/type-who? to get-to add, in terms of loading the roster the most ideal way for quality and not for salary cap/caphit worrys.
Load it. Do it. Do it.
Agree that the Hartman trade appears to be Bowman’s best deal to date. A few more good ones were made this season. Also, I like the trade to unload Hossa’s contract. Would rather take a chance on Entwistle over hanging on to Oesterle and Hino, who is not doing well with Arizona.
With the remaining schedule against mostly soft teams, starting with Ottawa tonight, am hoping that management is disciplined enough not to become buyers, knowing there is a good chance of making the playoffs. However, am thinking that they will not be selling like some of us wish to avoid demoralizing the team. This could actually give Bowman some leverage in trade discussions, when playoff-bound teams know that he is not willing to throw in the towel for this season. A deal like the Hartman trade would suit me just fine.
Only a week left before we can stop speculating what Stan will or won’t do – that in and of itself is good news.
I believe Hartman was the 30th pick and Beaudin the 28th – so that right there is a wash and if Kurashev ends up an NHL player then that was a very good trade for the Hawks.
It will be interesting to see if any of the Ottawa players don’t dress tonight or even get pulled during the game. High drama.
Saw today where Stone appears close to re-signing with Ottawa. And Panarin and Bob are likely headed to Florida remains the odds favorite for them. Also heard confirmation of Duchene being moved is almost certain.
I never saw us being a big player this year at the TDL. 2 and 7 are in control and I don’t see them as acceptable contracts for rental purposes. AA is a possibility, but we are so thin on productive offense that he actually would be missed more than I feel some here would believe. Crawford – nobody in their right mind takes him unless Peter Chiarelli finds a job quickly. Saad has too much term for rental. It is all small pieces I see getting moved – a Dman or two possibly. As far as a rental – Murphy is the only one who can help another team without a NMC immediately, and his term is too long for rental purposes. We simply don’t have assets that would be rental pieces, except Kunitz and Ward, and those guys have NMCs.
While I would love to see some changes for better players or prospects, I expect a big nothing burger served up.
Entry draft – now that’s when Bowman should be busy. I WANT TO SEE us move up in the draft to get an offensive player – a wing – that plays the left side and can score. He needs to be NHL ready by Christmas and have a clue of what defensively responsible looks like. Move a core piece (Keith or even Murphy if the deal is right) from the defense. I like Murphy, but he is a chip that can be used at draft time.
The big unknown is what the kid Dmen look like to the Blackhawks, not to the fans. I do believe that management has a plan and we will see it play out in the next 10 months.
I see Blackhawks in almost zero rumors as I poke around the web; though any specific rumors aren’t common either…..except for Panarin to just about anywhere!
I always thought it was odd Kempny went from the press box to a regular in a lineup; -I mean teams taking a run at a cup usually target regular lineup players; interesting the Captials instead targeted a “project” player and immediately put the player in the lineup. Point being is maybe another teams sees more value in one of the Blackhawks “developing” players than the Blackhawks do and would like to at least try and insert the player into the lineup immediately for a playoff run. Heck maybe teams in the basement would like a “project” player to round out the season in an effort to build the team for next year. The Blackhawks have three or four defenseman who fall in this category.
When I said it’s a “buyer’s market” what I mean is there are a lot of players available. That doesn’t mean teams will not pay for them. Maybe I’m wrong but I believe teams try to fill in specific holes; this year given the circumstances of so many players available (it’s more than usual this year right? am I wrong?) I would imagine teams might just try to trade for the best player rather than what the team really needs, lots of factors.
Columbus would be silly not trade both Panarin and Bob. A team losing arguably the top two stars and passing on the ability to trade one or both is just silly unless they really think the have a cup run in them. Two fantastic players no doubt keeps ticket sales up and keeps fans happy even in the short run, but with both gone next year you have to be crazy to not eat some backlash from the fans in the short term.
It’s worth noting the Blackhawks have almost never been in many rumors before something actually happened. Lots of people have speculated about which players may/may not be available but the ultimate destination and/or return haven’t been out there before almost anything Bowman has done.
Top Trades
#1 Shaw for DeBrincat and Krys is the best trade.
#2 Trading Brian Campbell away
#3 Leddy for Barker but the Leddy trade to NYI sucked bigtime
#4 Oduya trade to Chicago
#5 Vermette for Dahlback and a #1Nick Merkley (currently AHL). We may not win Lord Stanley without Vermette.
Those 5 outweigh the current trade of Hartman. Maybe both pan out which brings them up a few. Hard to argue Shaw for the Cat as being the best trade in the Bowman era. To Tabs point, the Hawks really keep things inhouse around trade rumors.
Good point Tab. Stan is like the anti-Eklund who you can almost guarantee that if “Ek” has a trade rumor it won’t happen.
Original, good thinking.
Silent, yes that makes most sense.
Organization prob says, we already made our deadline moves with those trades. Look how much better we got after Dals/Murf came back and those trades, getting used to new system takes time, sure.
I want to trade up to. That could be same thing as trading whoever for picks, essentially. Bowman usually makes moves at draft, like 2 for 1 s. Prob see that and what your saying. Really we might do a lot at draft. Add someone in summer to.
Prospects today:
Boqvist 2a
Wall for you
Kaliyev 2g 1a 1st star
Lavoie 2g 2st star
Europe
Shalunov 1a
For what its worth if anyone wondering how Kubalik may fit if signed. He has played top 6 right wing and no.1 PP this season.
Bowman has made some good trades this year, improving the roster not only this season but seemingly for next few years as well. Any player acqusitions for tdl i would expect a similar type of approach, maybe add a pick or 2. Don’t expect any type of move that hurts playoff chances.
Personally i wouldn’t mind seeing him pick up a good pk guy for rest of this season and under contract with a reasonable hit for another year or 2, to bolster a need there.
re: best Bowman trades…
I would certainly put Shaw for 2 picks at the top but would put the Leddy/Barker deal as a strong 1b. It’s also funny how people look back at the Oduya trade from Winnipeg as a win today when Bowman was roundly blasted for the deal when he made it. Bowman gave up a 2nd and a 3rd for a 31-year-old defenseman many people weren’t high on at the time. Oduya worked in Quenneville’s system so it worked out well.
Other deals Bowman clearly won that don’t get talked about:
Jack Skille, Hugh Jessiman and David Pacan to Florida for Michael Frolik and Alexander Salak.
He traded San Jose’s 4th back to the Sharks for Michal Handzus
Adam Clendening for Gustav Forsling (say what you will about Forsling’s play to date he’s been better than Clendening)
And the Schmaltz-Strome trade may end up making the short list as well.
As a reminder, you can review Bowman’s complete history as GM on our site here.
Yea, I can see adding role players at deadline, that will be here longer then rental. Were really not wasting any assets when were going to do a lot of things at draft.
A lot of those top trades were for guys/role player guys and good quality deepness players after the core. Hands and Vermette and Frozal and more/prob all good for key role player/shutdown Defenseman/pk/faceoff kind of guys.