Patrick Kane Sets US Hockey Record
On Tuesday morning (in the United States), the US men’s team suffered a 6-2 loss to Finland.
Patrick Kane, the captain of the US team, had one goal and one assist in the loss. With two points and one assist in the game, Kane establishes a new US record for both points (17) and assists (11) in a single IIHF Men’s World Championship tournament.
Kane is one of four Blackhawks players on the United States team. Forward Alex DeBrincat and defensemen Jordan Oesterle and Connor Murphy are also representing the US.
Kane is a brilliant player that has worked hard to overcome any shortcomings in his game during his NHL career, such as a lack of strength, board play, defensive play. He has world class hands and skills.
Unfortunately, he will likely play out the rest of his career like Dennis Savard, the best player on a fair to middling team that talent wise falls short of being a contender. But lots of guys would love to have 1 Cup, much less 3. Ask Ovie.
In his recent interview for Dreger’s Cafe, he seemed resigned to the fact that with all the young players the Hawks are playing, next year is not going to prove last year was just a one off thing.
Kane and Toews’ agent lined his pockets well on commissions from their 2 cap-eating contracts but he does not have to answer media questions about why the team is losing. If they lose 40 games a year for 5 years and they average 3 media interviews per game they will have to repeat that explanation 600 times. I think a bit less money per year would have been a better idea all things considered.
Oesterle belongs in the Austrian League.
The cap limit at the time T&K signed their contracts, as dictated by the CBA, was $12.5 million per year. It slides every year based on the actual salary cap.
If the Hawks had not signed Toews and Kane, 3 time Cup champions, there would have been 29 teams lined up to offer them the max contract at the max years to get them for free.
Anything they signed for less than $12.5 million per year should be considered a discount because that is what it was. If they wanted to press the issue and leave, that is what they would have received.
Good for Kaner. I liked he was wearing the “C”. I wish Blashill would have played Kane and Cat together for more than he did. Cat had 8 points in the 7 games so it wasn’t like he wasn’t producing … but whatever.
Hereismike: Kane brilliant offensively and he definitely has defensive shortcomings.
High skill for sure. Board work and defence are not really much
to talk about after all he was a minus 20 this past season.
Yes he is a great point producer and yes the team was terrible last
season. Kane’s defence will never be much to talk about.
Just sayin.
Who played well defensively for the Hawks last year Strapon007 ? Kane is a plus 59 career ,.,.snot to shabby for a little-un eh . No smack talking our heart an soul here friend , so troll your ass off this site .
Also if Batman and Robin didn’t play in the salary cap era, most likely won 5 Cups in a row.
Skinner 5.725 Hanifin rfa Darling 4.15 (carolina pay half) for
Anisimov 4.55 Forsberg 800K, pick a Dman and pick #27
The years for Skinner and Anisimov off set the years for Darling and Forsberg.
The belief of others here is that the Hawks will be a non factor for the palyoffs this upcoming year so you can peddle Skinner for assets at TDL. My belief is that the Hawks will be buyers at TDL.
Halktalk: I was under the impression this site was for comments thoughts and ideas and all Blackhawks and hockey related.
If you don’t hear what you like why don’t you try telling all Blackhawk fans why Patrick Kane is such a good defensive player?
I have been a diehard Hawks fan for many years and I enjoy reading many of the fans views on Chicago hockey.
Halktalk you come across as the site Bully and nobody likes a Bully.
Just sayin.
If you think that Kane is on this team for his defensive talents then you are truly not an educated Hawk fan . Please stop offending all Hawk fans with your poor spelling and insightful dullness .
Just saying .
What in the hell am I reading? This turned into a thread earnestly discussing Patrick Kane’s defense!!?
Ahh, that’s better, I just gouged my eyeballs out with a rusty tire iron, thank god that’s over…
Patrick Kane scored 2 goals in the USA victory over the Czechs today so the record grows.
Kane’s defense … well … I think we can all agree it has improved since his first few years in the NHL. And, I think we can all agree that he is spotted from time to time busting his ass to get back and make a good defensive play. However, good defensive players play good defense all the time, or at least a higher percentage of the time than not so good defensive players do. Kane has never been considered a good defensive player because he doesn’t play good defense consistently enough. He’s better than he used to be … but c’mon!
Completely unrelated but has anyone seen all Players from Carolina are allegedly on the table? What would it realistically take to get a young d man from them like Faulk? Or Skinner? Think he would be a good winger to go with Kane. Apparently they want goaltending, would anyone do a Crawford trade?
I heard that as well-everyone but Aho is in play. Trading Crawford is scary, especially after last year–unless you want to completely start over.
I think with the success of the Knights this year there may be a rethink or the overused words-paradigm shift with regards to how to play and how to build a team.
The sum of their parts is so much greater than the individual talent–and then there’s Fleury, which gets back to importance of Crawford.
Just one person’s opinion, but given that Kane is not big and strong, I have always thought that his strength is to get into position to fast-break up the ice, where he makes amazing things happen. If he focused on also becoming a mucker and grinder, he would not be in position to get down the ice and would have certainly been injured more often. His strength is offense, and few do it better. Am happy with his game just the way it is.
Agreed on Kane – Gretzky wasn’t stellar defensively either.
You play to your strengths
Good game against Caps v Bolts. Vas really played a strong game. The Caps were buzzing all game. You have to like the Volts chances now but the Caps have played great hockey so far so I wouldn’t discredit them. I think the winner in game 5 wins game 6 and closes it out. Bolts in 6
Bowman was rumored to have gone hard after Skinner a few years ago. Wonder if he may be in play again. Also heard the the Canes 2nd overall pick will be available. Faulk and Noah Hanifin would both be significant upgrades over anything the Hawks have on their blue line now.
Yep good game – the series reminds me of 2013 finals (B’s were up 2-1 in series and Hawks won close one in Boston to even the series then won out to win the Cup)
For those who want to think Kempny is a top 4 D man – yeah maybe not
He gave the puck away brutally on TB first goal – on 3rd Tampa goal he turned the puck over in the D zone forcing Eller to take a penalty on Killorn which lead to TB scoring as the PP expired
So he had a direct hand in 2 of 3 TB goals before the empty netter in just 13:53 TOI
let’s see how much he plays in the next game
On Kane’s defensive play…
He has certainly improved through the years & has evolved into a “situational defender”…
He surprises a lot of players by catching up to them & strip them from behind…
But his biggest “defensive worth” is being on the ice, maybe cherry picking a little, the d-men have to respect him lingering behind them, which affects their play…
I don’t think Patrick worries that he doesn’t have a “Selke” sitting in his trophy case…
@ THE WRAPAROUND
Kempny is exactly that guy, good not great. All players are going to make mistakes. Kempny does some things well but he is far from perfect. He is and always been a serviceable NHL dman. Trotz is no dummy he knows Kempny has limitations but for the most part, puts him in a position to be successful.
@SSHM
We agree on Kempny – a 5/6 D man who has limited his mistakes until last night but that’s what you sometimes get with a lower end D man – a game like last night
Looking back at the game he also got stripped of the puck by Kucherov in his own zone which eventually lead to Eller taking a penalty on Kucherov – the resulting PP yielded TB’s 2nd goal (Stamkos) – so he had a negative hand in the first 3 TB goals
Not a good night for Kempny
The thing about Vegas is that they rarely make mistakes – and 5 v 5 that’s usually how a team scores, off of an opponents mistake.
They don’t turn the puck over at the O zone blue line, they don’t give the puck away in their own zone very often, they rarely take stupid penalties because they move their feet and are fast on every line, they don’t stickhandle in traffic, they don’t hold onto the puck too long, they don’t let emotions get the better of them – they are very well coached. They are winning because of how few mistakes they make – not how many great plays they make but how few mistakes. Plus they feed off their opponents mistakes to get their goals – whether on the PP or 5 v 5.
I also think because there are no players on the team that were considered stars thats they are all good at the these little details, no one’s got this ‘I can do it all myself’ mindset or have a big enough ego where they think they can pull off a great play when it’s not really there and end up turning the puck over and creating a good chance going the other way – they are the consummate team in the consummate team game
Plus they have a great goalie, a good PP and just enough snipers
Whoever is going to beat them (If anyone) is going to have play a very disciplined game and get great goaltending – in that scenario the more talented team should win
@Wrap – excellent post. Well reasoned, informative, good grammar and punctuation, no excessive use of caps. This blog has become really annoying and I’ve been avoiding it because of the mindless nonsense so often spewed here. And then I read a post like yours and it gives me hope.
Just saw Hoss is done and moving back to Slovakia. Sad day. Anyone know the cap implications?
I posted a couple days ago about condo.
We trade Hoss contract to floor teams (which there will be more then there were with cap going way up) and we have the full 5.275 to use, along with trades we make (those players cap hits), along with cap going way up, along with no platter bonuses, etc. we’re going to have lots and lots to use.
We need to get two really good players, 81 and 4 to get back to where were roster wise. Then group of young fast guys get established and top team again.
Cap friendly said Hossa would be similar to Pronger, that he wouldn’t retire officially until contract expires. Blackhawks could continue to ltir him or trade his caphit to help a budget team reach the cap floor.
Didn’t Pronger have like Prince like status and was on a teams roster caphit wise and getting paid for another job with League at same time.
Kane and USA shutout 6-0 by the Swedes. They will play Canada in the 3rd place game.
Hossa has officially retired according to the AP
I’ve mispoken it’s an unofficial retirement, stupid rule. It appears he can’t file his official paperwork with the league
Congrats on Hossa career. Retired after 19 seasons. ! Class act. Another number for rafters And on Vegas being a game away from finals. Mc Phee gets a A+. For job. On players teams didn’t think of much and a coach that was fired! If there is ever a team that is on a mission it’s this Team. And I hope they do it. They were 200/1 odds. And we’re great for game one ! That’s a well rounded team with it all. Any one to say shit like one and done or they had advantage ! They had to make trades and pik right. And that was brilliant work. And to possibly win it all. Ask Toronto or blues if they be happy to win one. Or any Canada team being just in the finals the last 26 years. This was not luck. But brilliant evaluation! Go knights
This probably sets the table for Hossa contract to be traded, with recapture penalties not an issue. The Blackhawks sut at 67.5 m for 17 roster spots next year, remove Hossa’s 5.275m and about 62.3m and 16 spots full. Only 8 fwds., Kampf, Ejdsell, Hino, Hayden, Jurco and another low salary shouldn’t take any more than 8 or 9m. Thats about 7o to 71m for 22 spots move AA s 4.55m and you got 12to 13m in cap space at least for 2 spots if wanted.
Ian, that’s what I was thinking when I saw condo thing. I knew we would have loads of cap space and now we have even more. While maintaining to load up the right way with draft/younger players for free. Its fine to have too many (young) players at once, the more the better. Were looking good to do what we need to to get back to where we were roster wise.
I give the expansion team credit for being good and playing good. WIN used up too much energy to beat NAS and their not playing as good as they are because of that.
If they do win somehow, I blame Bettman for not having the expansion draft protection list long enough.
Good for them, but NAS and TB are the two standout teams last yr and this yr. If the expansion team had to play these teams their done.
They havnt been behind in the teams they beat. We see how they play free, when their behind TB in the series.
I think this is a yr for justice/revenge/payback/karma to the teams that should have won the last two yrs. Its NAS or TB yr, as those two teams should have won the Cup the last two yrs.
Happy bday Mr.Makita.
Kreider is a dirty player but one who would fit nicely on left wing with Schmaltz and Kane! Murphy, Duclair and Nashville’s first round pick for Krieder, a prospect on D and a 2nd round pick.
This is fate for the murder that took place. The knights became are reason to become Vegas Strong !!!!!!! God rest the souls who were just watching a concert . 4 more wins
And … Vegas is in the SCF! WOW! Coulda made a bundle if you laid a few G’s on Vegas before the season started. Quite a story. Too bad it’s forever linked with the mass shooting tragedy, although maybe that makes it all the more remarkable. I kinda wanted Winnipeg to get there because Big Buf is one of my favorite players. But once the Hawks were out I had only 2 wishes – (1) Pittsburgh would lose because I didn’t want them to win a third in a row, and (2) Anaheim would lose because I can’t stand a lot of the Ducks players. Both wishes were granted so now everything else is good with me.
If I had to pick between Washington and Tampa I would pick Washington because I would like to see Ovie win – but no biggie either way.
Vegas have done great with their opportunity. Guess i am kinda old school and feel teans should have to draft and build a contender and not be given the option of having the decisions out the gate to be one. Nobody thought they would go this far with tbeir group and congratulations for that. I guess marketing success trumps making a franchise earn it, to me the right way. I don’t think its best for league though.
“This is fate for the murder that took place. The knights became are reason to become Vegas Strong !!!!!!! God rest the souls who were just watching a concert . 4 more wins” (Slammer) ——WTF(!?!?) does this have to do with hockey, the NHL, the Stanley Cup???? I will not apologize. NO “Sorry”. I will “take a knee” on ALL of the BULLSHIT that has NOTHING to do with the game. And yes, that includes forced “patriotism” – The Department of Defense doled out as much as $6.8 million in taxpayer money to professional sports teams to honor the military at games and events… I mean NO disrespect to all who have served, but just a little perspective, PLEASE.
“This is fate for the murder that took place. The knights became are reason to become Vegas Strong !!!!!!! God rest the souls who were just watching a concert . 4 more wins” (Slammer) ——WTF(!?!?) does this have to do with hockey, the NHL, the Stanley Cup???? I will not apologize. NO “Sorry”. I will “take a knee” on ALL of the BULLSHIT that has NOTHING to do with the game. And yes, that includes forced “patriotism” – The Department of Defense doled out as much as $6.8 million in taxpayer money to professional sports teams to honor the military at games and events… I mean NO disrespect to all who have served, but just a little perspective, PLEASE.
^ I will say I’m sorry for the duplicate comment.
On the subject of Vegas (and hockey), I heard Nate Schmidt say postgame that the Knights won because they keep their feet moving — WHY is it acceptable that the Hawks do not/cannot “keep their feet moving”? I believe Scotty Bowman explained that, “hard work can beat superior talent, except when superior talent works as hard”. Is it because too many of the Hawks are weighed-down by bloated contracts…?
As I posted earlier Vegas does keep their feet moving but they’re also fast and smart (or well coached depending on your perspective).
Their puck management is really exceptional – Q railed on this all year with the Hawks and he was right. Why couldn’t the hawks fix that – coaching or personnel, a bit of both maybe.
Anyone, how many players did every team have to protection list during the last expansion draft. Was it the exactly same amount of players. Otherwise that’s bullshit.
San Jose paid their dues, I respect that franchise.
This reminds of the young fast TB and the dynasty Blackhawks. The better team won but it was tougher then it should have been.
I see Vegas being fast like that and now TB is the best team in league (really every yr since 2015 Blackhawks)(16, 17 and 18).
TB hasn’t won nothing yet. So maybe they do not ever win.
Mo i think it was 14 skaters and 2 goalies in the 90s expansion drafts teams could protect. I believe rfa s were exempt too.
To clarify Morrison’s comment – this generation of Lightning players hasn’t won a Cup. Yet. Contrary to popular belief, 2004 did actually happen.
Forgot about that yr. I guess I was thinking since they were good again and being the best team for last few yrs here.
16 players (2 goalies)
What was it for Vegas, seems a little fishy for Vegas compared to other expansion teams.
TB doesn’t win game 7, can WAS even play with Vegas.
Vegas in a sweep.
First team in history to win the Cup in their first yr. Wow Bettman knew what he was doing with the protection lists lengths.
Would have been nice to see if Vegas could beat the two top teams, NAS and TB. It might have at least been a challenge.