Patrick Kane’s Hat Trick Leads Blackhawks Past Wild

Every once in a while the Blackhawks put a smile on your face for longer than 20 minutes.

After an ugly, soul-crushing loss in St. Louis on Saturday the Hawks had a Minnesota team waiting for them at the United Center on Sunday evening. Fans and media were calling for Jeremy Colliton’s job (and Stan Bowman’s for that matter). The pitchforks and torches were out.

So the Hawks brought out Kris Versteeg for his one last shift before the national anthem. Steeger spun on his knees and fist bumped the bench with big smiles from his former teammates. A guy who was so much fun to watch in his stints with the team is heading for an early retirement but his smile brought a warm energy to the ice. It was good to see Steeger back in the Indian head.

The Versteeg moment didn’t overshadow Colliton throwing his lines in a blender, however. Alex Nylander, whose recent performances have been blasted by most of the media in Chicago and whose awful turnover handed the Blues their first goal on Saturday night, somehow found himself… promoted onto a line with Patrick Kane and Dylan Strome.

Sure, why not.

Of course that line would click. Nylander found Kane to the side of the net. Kane hammered a shot into Minnesota goaltender Kaapo Kahkonen that he thought went in; the closest official did not see it that way and play continued. At the next stoppage of play, however, New York asked for a moment and reviewed the play. The puck was found to have completely crossed the line and Kane was awarded his 16th of the season.

Nylander was credited with the only assist on the goal.

Four minutes later the Blackhawks were on the power play. Kane received the puck and rifled a shot home for his second goal of the night.

Jonathan Toews and Strome picked up assists on Kane’s 17th of the season.

Kirby Dach went to the box 10 seconds after the Kane goal and Minnesota capitalized on the advantage. Eric Staal scored a power play goal for the 1,000th goal of his tremendous NHL career.

Chicago held a 10-9 shot advantage and 2-1 lead after 20 minutes of hockey.

The Blackhawks apparently aren’t comfortable having a lead for very long, unfortunately. Kevin Fiala scored two minutes into the second period to tie the game. And, to a fan base that has watched leads evaporate since the beginning of October, it felt like the Wild were about to run away with the game.

Minnesota did not.

David Kampf scored six minutes later to give the Blackhawks a 3-2 lead.

The redirect of a Connor Murphy shot was the fifth of the year for Kampf. Murphy had a terrific night and was credited with one of the assists on the goal; Erik Gustafsson was also credited with a helper.

Fiala scored his second goal of the period to once again tie the game at 14:20 into the second. Ryan Suter had the only assist on each of Fiala’s goals (he also had an assist on Staal’s goal in the first period).

After 40 minutes the score was tied at three. Minnesota held a 20-19 shot advantage.

The clock continued to roll in the third period without any score. Finally, Brandon Saad redirected another Murphy shot into the net at 13:43 and Chicago had a 4-3 lead.

Toews and Murphy each picked up an assist on Saad’s 11th of the year.

Robin Lehner held onto the lead until the Wild pulled Kahkonen for the extra attacker in the final two minutes. With 63 seconds left in regulation Toews found Kane and the hat trick was complete.

Suter did a pretty good job of blocking a previous Kane attempt at the empty net from outside the blue line but this one found the mark for the sixth career hat trick for Kane.

The Blackhawks were able to hang on and win the day, coming back from a disaster in St. Louis with a solid home victory.

With his three goals on the night, Kane passed Eric Lindros on the career goals list. He also moved three points ahead of Sidney Crosby for the NHL’s point lead in the decade; Crosby is currently on the shelf for the Penguins.

Toews was one of the bright spots on Saturday night and he backed up that strong performance with another good night on Sunday. Chicago’s captain was credited with three assists, two takeaways, one hit and won 14 of 17 faceoffs in only 16 minutes of ice time.

Murphy was terrific on the blue line. He skated 24:58 with two assists – both shots that were redirected into the net. He also blocked three shots and was credited with two hits.

Olli Maatta led the Hawks with four blocked shots. Ryan Carpenter led Chicago with four hits.

Adam Boqvist appeared in his tenth game of the season, burning the first year of his rookie contract. Boqvist and Dach will stay with the Blackhawks and not join their respective home countries for the World Junior Championships.

112 thoughts on “Patrick Kane’s Hat Trick Leads Blackhawks Past Wild

  • December 15, 2019 at 10:17 pm

    It’s truly amazing the Hawks are almost .500 w the coach they have. There is joy in Mudville for a night.

    I’m still wondering, where is Bowman?

  • December 15, 2019 at 10:19 pm

    Nylander – Strome – Kane line worked – I don’t know for how long it’ll work but it did for one game

    Nylander is a much better passer than DCat who regularly ends the play with his pass attempts so maybe that line will be a thing

    Dach continues to improve from what I see – hopefully he gets a run with DCat – of course if Shaw were healthy he would be a better RWer on that line

    The FWs were bachchecking much harder tonight which makes the D men look better which they did

    So one game but inconsistency is the Hawks calling card so let’s see if they can play even a second game with a similar attention to detail and commitment to playing hard

    PS – 20-19-8 are definitely a thing – really liking that line – I just hope JC doesn’t scratch Kubalik to play 7 D

  • December 15, 2019 at 10:33 pm

    The Hawks played much better hockey picking up their checks and minimizing the hair on fire running around in the defensive zone.19.20 and 88 were sharp and much better at being defensively responsible.A win is a win in this league but their win was aided by evening out the shot and dangerous chances stats and not relying on an incredible goal tending effort along with dominating in the faceoff circle.

  • December 15, 2019 at 10:40 pm

    Great play by Highmore on Kampf’s goal taking out two Minny players away from the play.

  • December 15, 2019 at 10:41 pm

    The reality is plain here,the Hawks matchup very well with the Wild.They are a small team that does not crash the net.Their d men dont rush up ice so coverage against them is simpler especially for younger players.They played their backup goalie who looked lost and shaky at times.Lots of passengers on the Wild tonight,can anyone remember Zach Parise out there tonight,Woof,9 million for that ghostly effort?Donato,Stahl,Zucker?Another group of phantom forwards tonight.Enjoy the win but do it with eyes open.

  • December 15, 2019 at 10:58 pm

    Nice to see Kane get the hat trick, even if it should have an asterisk by it.

    Dach looks good in many ways. He wins puck battles and when he doesn’t, he still keeps pestering the competitor making it difficult on him. He needs to fire the wrist shot and give the drag a rest. Foley expressed most of our sentiments well on that matter.

    Saad and Kubalik are good together. Please keep that going.

    Nice to see Kampf get number 5. He plays hard and gets little respect from the fan base. People calling him “hands of stone,” etc. They call Saad that too when he gets stopped on a breakaway – which is every breakaway.

    Kane had a bad TO on the second goal. But someone has to shoot the puck in to shin pads with Keith being out. Lehner didn’t look particularly strong on that breakaway. Nobody is perfect but Lehner is awesome so we’ll let that slide.

    Some of the passing looked a lot better tonight. But was this a leap forward? No it wasn’t. But we can enjoy a win for a few days now.

  • December 15, 2019 at 11:38 pm

    Good team win, couple of days off then Avs Jets back to back then Avs again in a 3 games in 4 day stretch. Pretty daunting task.

    Unfortunately for Dehaan his season appears over, but could be an opportunity there to use the ltir space to help a team with no caproom, wanting to acquire a player at tdl. Take some cap they want to shed with some picks or get a good young forward with it. Have to be in way that next season isn’t impacted negatively from acquiring it.

    Wrap wouldn’t get to excited over Nylander, looked to me Colliton knew if he put him there tonight, against a team where there would be lots of room and not much hitting he would look ok. The lazy icing, puck watching while his point man moved in for prime scoring chance, another turnover in own end led to extended time pinned in own end. Some passing was good, a few wtf ones too, lots of open lanes tonight though. Can’t see him looking to good against Avs and Jets.

  • December 16, 2019 at 12:01 am

    Whew! Ending the long undefeated streak of Minn and all players showing a good team effort. Was afraid tonight would be the breaking point. Great to feel good for a change. Can this energy be maintained most nights?

    Agree that Dach shows a lot of talent. When he gives up the puck he goes after the other player, slowing them down. Good acceleration.

    Sleep well everyone.

  • December 16, 2019 at 12:31 am

    Playing with Carpenter and Kampf as your number 3 & 4 center will not get you to the playoffs or win games against top teams in the NHL. And sorry, but anyone who thinks Nylander had a good game is not watching! He’s lazy, scared and simply awful. Again, without Kane, Hawks are last in the league! Strome is painful to watch skate. Nothing has changed after this victory. And Lehner, not worth $5million. Money should have been spent on a top 6 forward! And to think the slow skating Carpenter has a 3 year contract is mind blowing!

  • December 16, 2019 at 12:39 am

    Hull,I agree.This organization needs to go out and get or draft at least 2 legit centers that are fast and physical.At most you can afford 1 of a center like Carpenter and Kamph.The goalie money spent at this time is wasted.The 92 experiment has to end now.

  • December 16, 2019 at 5:52 am

    Packed house last night, but somewhat of a ho hum experience crowd wise. You could hear calls on the ice for most of the evening. Kind of that feeling in the air that the game would be lost, eventually.

    Does anyone on the coaching staff ever tell Dach to stop with the attempt to drag and bring it between his legs? And if not, why not? Geez, Kirby! Go to the net hard and shoot the puck. He’s just getting undressed every time.

  • December 16, 2019 at 7:10 am

    The Wild a team with limited talent and size that works hard and has been following a wave of energy-but the Hawks did beat them.
    Nylander will look as good or bad as he has depending on the circumstances (line mates, other team, type of moon etc.) He doesn’t deserve to be on the top line on a team based on level of play but can’t contribute on a third line-too bad.

    Weird comment of the year? Lehner not worth 5 million this year. A one year gamble at that price was possibly best move of the year. It may yet still prove it’s worth in the second half.

  • December 16, 2019 at 8:12 am

    Whatever Hull65 is on isn’t legal in Illinois until January but I’m envious because he’s clearly having a better time than the rest of us.

    “Lehner, not worth $5 million.” – literally what hockey are you watching? The Indy Fuel?

  • December 16, 2019 at 8:53 am

    Does anyone on the coaching staff ever tell…………..
    any of the players something useful?

    But you’re right. That’s would be a bonus of getting minutes, see the things that need to be cleaned up now that he is playing against men not junior league

  • December 16, 2019 at 9:31 am

    I wonder how much money that the Blues goalie was making last year when they won the Cup?How about the Murray Cup with the Penguins?Pretty sure Crawford was not anywhere near a heavy cap hit for his Cups.How about the Hawks 1st Cup.How much was Niemi pulling in?Hull is obviously not partaking in the good stuff that you are Tab.This team was not in the position to spend over 10 million on 2 goalie s.

  • December 16, 2019 at 9:41 am

    That wacky Ny Islander organization on top of the league in goals against and a point total that would be on top of the Western conference must have been smoking the same stuff when they moved on from Lehner.

  • December 16, 2019 at 9:56 am

    Can just imagine if Bowman didn’t sign Lehner and Blackhawks were struggling in goal what the daily rants would be. Lol
    Some people just don’t want to be about anything i guess.

  • December 16, 2019 at 9:59 am

    Tim, would also say the wild are not a particularly fast team. I’m very surprised there over .500

  • December 16, 2019 at 10:08 am

    If only we had the messiah James Neal instead of Lehner we would be killing it. But wait, haven’t heard much about James Neal since he has come back to earth. The new messiah is Anthony Duclair. If we only had him instead of Lehner we would be killing it. Seriously, what is the real argument against having a top back-up goalie when your #1 has had serious health issues and his contract is up at the end of the year? Bash SB all you want but that was a pretty solid move.

  • December 16, 2019 at 10:28 am

    It is not personally about Lehner.The whole issue is timing and Cap flexibility.This organization has more serious problems to address than grabbing a goalie for a year.And if you think he is signing here after what he has seen system and organization wise well you are visionaries.The last thing this team needs when teaching its young players to be defensively responsible is a goalie bailing you out of your lazy play.You see how well that has worked so far.

  • December 16, 2019 at 10:39 am

    This team seems to save Colliton job every time he’s about to get fired. Just a matter of time because I don’t see a major win streak any time soon. Still good to get a win especially at home.

  • December 16, 2019 at 11:29 am

    I actually feel sorry for JC. Bowman blew so much smoke up his butt convincing him he would be great NHL coach that he believed it. At least he will make over a million for his troubles. As for Nylander I cannot believe as bad as he was playing he gets a promotion to Kane’s line. Normally a ROOKIE who plays that bad is a healthy scratch or sent to the minors. Stan is trying everything to make this look like a fair trade.

  • December 16, 2019 at 11:46 am

    Tim, heading into tbe season with a bolstered defense and a new coach with a fresh approach, getting back to playoffs was the goal. Offense wasn’t the problem, goaltending behind 50 was, Lehner addressed that. The defensive additions were doing there part, Lehner has given everything expected from him and alot more. To say the coach and his revolutioary system are a bust is too kind.
    As for Hulls comments, after years of ranting about not having any nhl calibur goaltenders other than Crawford, this year it’s wasting money because he did what Hull wanted, so how do you can find credibility in that.

  • December 16, 2019 at 12:33 pm

    Ian,you above most know about Cap responsibility and timing in the league.I maintain that this team in no way was ready for that investment.I just think when building a sound team that this was a backwards way of doing it.I understand that we are talking about 2 distinctly different mindsets here.If the goal was to simply slide into the 7th or 8th slot and get horsed in the 1st round then go ahead and get Lehner and pray that he wants to stay.If you are looking to get the quality foundation that you need,and this team needs multiple centers and forwards,then you wait on the goalie investment.

  • December 16, 2019 at 12:50 pm


    You might be the only person who feel bad for a coach whose doing a bad job coaching

  • December 16, 2019 at 1:04 pm

    Respectfully, Tim, having a young goaltender win you a Cup is one thing. Keeping the good netminder in one piece is another.

    In 2017 the Penguins were paying Marc-Andre Fleury $5.75M. Murray took his job and got a $3M raise after they won the Cup.
    In 2018 the Capitals were paying Braden Holtby $5M.
    Last year the Blues were paying Jake Allen $5.2M. Binnington took his job and got a $4M raise after they won the Cup.

    Number One goaltenders are expensive. This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone who pays attention.

    Drafting and replacing a veteran goaltender is the trickiest part of the hockey business. And the incumbant – if good enough to get one championship ring – being ready to hand off the crease rarely aligns with the end of his contract.

    Chicago doesn’t have a kid ready for primetime. Crawford is in the final year of his deal and the concussions cost him 2 years. Last year we painfully watched what having one legit netminder does to a team when you don’t have a replacement ready in-house. Lehner is a damn good goaltender and is worthy of top tier money at the position. Crying about paying 2 goaltenders isn’t Lehner’s fault. Or Crawford’s. It’s about putting a team on the ice that can win. And Chicago needed to bet that Crawford wasn’t going to be healthy enough to give them a full season because he hasn’t recently.

    If you’d prefer to watch Colin Delia every night that’s terrific. I’d prefer the Hawks try to compete. Signing Lehner was the best decision of their offseason.

  • December 16, 2019 at 1:08 pm

    The Blackhawks tried to address their two major areas of weakness over the summer. They added 3 veteran defensemen and a marvelous goaltender.

    Theory and reality rarely align. de Haan is hurt. Keith is hurt. Maatta has missed time. Koekkoek sucks. The #1 group of six defensemen hasn’t been together much this season, and the parts they’re trying to mix in are trying to develop chemistry with a coach who’s over his head.

    Goaltending hasn’t been an issue this year. It was the last two seasons. If there’s anything fans should be thankful for this year it’s that the Hawks had the cap flexibility to have 2 good netminders on the roster in case 50 couldn’t do it all year.

    Instead, we’re complaining about the Hawks not having flexibility to do what exactly? Throw money at Panarin (who ALWAYS wanted to play in NYC)?

    The bigger issue is what we wrote about late last week. Stan Bowman has not drafted well in years and has to supplement his thin pipeline with veterans who cost more than ELCs. When you don’t draft/develop replacement players, who have to spend money. The Hawks replaced the guys they lost in 2010 and won 2 more Cups. They haven’t replaced what they lost after 2015 yet. That is why they suck. It’s their inability to draft, NOT spending $11M on two damn good goaltender.

  • December 16, 2019 at 1:30 pm

    Tab,Well said and researched.My thoughts on putting together a team are not based on going for the Panarin,s of the world.It is based on getting some bigger and faster forwards who play both ends of the ice along with some real centermen who could take the pressure off of 19.And we all know that is going to require some type of player development and a defined system.Of course I am not well informed on what went into the Lehner negotiation and if he was their guy then why 1 year?I think they knew that this was Crawford,s last year so yes they would need goaltending.Was it the Hawks gamble to do 1 year or Lehner,s idea or both?And the ultimate question is still out there.After seeing what a disaster that this current organization is,does he really want to sign a long term contract?

  • December 16, 2019 at 1:38 pm

    If goaltending is the reason we make it into the playoffs, I hope it is good enough to get us 2 rounds, but I suspect it won’t be good enough to get us into the playoffs without the core carrying a lot more of the load than they currently are. And I don’t just mean scoring. Leadership. 2 way play. Setting an example of how to play “the right way” instead of epitomizing the opposite and whining all day and all night on the ice.

    If we appear destined not to make the playoffs at the TDL, I expect that we won’t finish the year with the same 2 goalies, maybe even neither.

    That alone could be the biggest reason signing Lehner was a smart move. He won’t be resigned if he doesn’t want to be, or if we are not in the playoffs and get an offer from a team that wants to go deeper. That could be the best trade we will/have seen in quite a while if Lehner keeps his quality of play high. All that cost us was a smart signing on a quality player, when adding another so-so player to our offense didn’t seem necessary.

    Remember, you can’t sign players to your team that don’t want to be there. FAs get to pick their destinations, not talking heads on the message boards. We haven’t given players much reason to join this team lately, let alone do it at a fair price to the team. The SHIT SHOW that we are now is not going to help with future signings.

  • December 16, 2019 at 1:40 pm

    Tim Lehner contract is a 1 year deal comes off after this season and doesn’t impact the extensions of Debrincat and Strome which were the priority. Being able to fill that void this year and not tie your hands in future us good cap management. Now if you want to argue that extension money should go somewhere else that’s different. Lehner gives a possible option to settling Goalie of future, drafting a franchise if in that position maybe another, but options there are wide open and thats a good thing.

  • December 16, 2019 at 1:58 pm

    Silent expect Lehner might be traded too at tdl unless a big turnaround. Right now my take is for that to gave a chance to happen, unless they bring in a coach the players respect, all the players in the world won’t change things a bit on that front. Listen to interviews, when was last time you heard a player speak highly of the coach. Surely you don’t believe that’s a unique to current players and changing would make the world right again. As i said before alot of players on this team forgot more about what it takes to win than Colliton has learned himself yet

  • December 16, 2019 at 2:32 pm

    Tim – I completely agree with the need for a few forwards with some size that can skate and play in the defensive zone. Was hoping we would sign Donskoi but he got a pretty big contract from the Avs. Unfortunately in free agency even mediocre guys are expensive. I see that John Quenneville has had a nice stretch in Rockford. He has good size and I would rather see what he can contribute instead of Sikura.

  • December 16, 2019 at 3:15 pm

    My comment about feeling sorry for JC was sarcastic. He knew what he was getting into. IMO all the talk about keeping so and so or should have brought in this forward etc is a waste of time. As long as Stan is the GM nothing good is going to happen. We are in this mess because of him. Remember when McD said both Bowman and Q were on short leashes. It appears only one was.

  • December 16, 2019 at 3:21 pm

    I wouldn’t be so quick to read Lehner’s mind about whether he wants to sign in CHI or not if they offer a contract

    He seems like someone who has priorities such as being treated well and fairly as wanting to win

    The Hawks future is not entirely bleak – they beat MIN with 6 rookies in the line up and Lehner may see a future here that’s not that bleak especially if he feels like he is treated well, paid well and respected in CHI

  • December 16, 2019 at 4:01 pm

    Taylor Hall to the Coyotes for a few prospects.

  • December 16, 2019 at 4:05 pm

    That leash should have been attached to McDonaugh too.

  • December 16, 2019 at 4:08 pm

    Easy Tab. Don’t have a heart attack defending our goal tending! It’s the holidays…………………..EASY!! LOL.

  • December 16, 2019 at 4:15 pm

    What player in the nhl doesn’t want to play on a winning team?

    Lehner probably thinks that he has not been treated fairly.
    You have two goalies playing really well dressing every other game.
    Lehner had the top save percentage in the nhl and Crawford pitches a shutout in his last start. All of a sudden someone in hawks management decides to play Crawford in back to back games and forget about the goalie rotation.
    Do you honestly believe Lehner after playing so many outstanding games would think that he was being treated fairly? I don’t.

    Being able to sign Lehner after that happening and the fact that Chicago is no good
    I doubt Lehner wants to face 35 plus shots a game on a losing team when there will be better options for him.

    Time will tell… Will Bowman trade Lehner or keep him in hopes of keeping his job by the hawks making a big playoff run.

    Will Gustafsson be traded at the deadline? Or will both of these guys walk and the hawks get absolutely nothing for them.

  • December 16, 2019 at 4:52 pm

    Tab, there are many factors which have led to the where we are today. I would also add in Keith, Seabrook, Toews, and Saad have not lived up to their salary/expected output. You forgot to add the loss of Hossa which was the biggest loss of all of them. Sharp, Oduya and NIck H. It is one thing to blame Stan’s draft picks which compared to others has not been that bad. He did draft Shaw,Dcat, Saad, Hayes, TT, Danualt, Vinny, Schmaltz, Hartman, and Henri. those were good picks and looking at those picked around them look even better.

    The Hawks won 3 cups with a perfect storm of players and could have won 5 if not for Raffi and two lack of calls against LA Kings. Now, they are paying the price of success. In all of Gretzky’s greatness and those incredible Edmonton teams, he only won 4.

  • December 16, 2019 at 5:27 pm

    Here is the 2011 NHL Draft. Stan drafted Saad #43 who has played the 4 most games, scored the 4th most goals, and is 8th in total points.

    Shaw was drafted 139, has played the 11 most games, scored the 11th most goals, 15th most points.
    Danault was draft 26 has played the 35 most games, 30th most goals, and 23 most point. He certainly missed on mcneil but so did MN and Toronto who there guys never made it the the NHL. Mcneil 2 games is nothing to write home about but

    Dahlbeck played the 52 most games, Clendinding drafted #36 played the 73 most games,

    Lastly, Chicago has 3 guys from the 2011 draft still playing in the NHL this year in Shaw, Saad, and Danult out of 65 others who are currently playing this year which include 21 first rounders, 15 2nd round, 11 3rd round, 4 4th round, 3 5th, 5 6th. and 6 7th round. I can do this for all drafts since Stan started drafting.

  • December 16, 2019 at 7:26 pm

    Didnt see game or read these posts yet.

    Wondering, since we stated to put 20 19 8 after that last 3min of that on game a few games ago. We havnt played good team wise.

    That line in doing very good, goals wise. Thought it would be 8 that would get the goals, it has been 20 and 19 with the goals. Figure that one out.

    Anyways, this is tuff to want a top 5 draft player for 3rd time which is best thing for young wave or want to win because it feels good.

  • December 16, 2019 at 8:33 pm

    You’d think that the Hawks will have one of CC or Lehner signed by the the TDL and then trade the other one

    Nice to see Marc Crawford has been taking counselling since 2010 for his past abuse of players and has owned up to his actions, taken responsibility, apologized and seems sincere about wanting to be part of getting his sort of past behaviour out of the game and as a result is being welcomed back by the Hawks on Jan. 2

    A good result for Crawford and for the Hawks and for continuing to address this issue

  • December 16, 2019 at 8:34 pm

    Tab, how about Hull’s hero, Tallon, who signed Bobrovsky for $70M/7yrs. Lehner was a STEAL. Either Bowman will be able to re-sign him or he can be traded for a decent return at the tdl. I have praised Bowman many times for this signing. Unless, ONE GOAL means to get a top five pick.

  • December 16, 2019 at 8:34 pm

    Tab, thanks for everything you do, that people do not see and see here, to have a good blog. One of the best if not the best. I only read here and one other place, because places like F-book and espn are terrible. Theres some ok other sites but none close to here or second city.

    thanks to everyone else here who post regularly and read to.

    Rather say it now then at game 82 or playoffs.

  • December 16, 2019 at 8:37 pm

    2020, I like stats like that. It puts things into perspective. I like taking a step back, several, and looking at groups of games and not get into/sucked in to much game by game for winning and losing streaks.

    We had been going good, record wise even with those 3 bad games COL COL STL, since 3-6 start, until recently.

    2-3-1 top 5 teams
    shit again.

  • December 16, 2019 at 8:43 pm

    Question, would we rather have Wirtz refresh button, gm/crew/coaches/good system/adjust roster players based on that system.
    Which might be good enough for Lehner to stay and next summer, not this summer prob, get a ufa top 6 FW with size.

    top 1-5 draft pick and not be able to keep Lehner/top 6 FW ufa come here in next 18 mths.

    I guess another top 5 skill player is better then having Lehner?

  • December 16, 2019 at 8:48 pm

    Top 5 skill draft player

    DET 14
    NJ 7
    OTT 4
    LA 4
    CHI 2
    CLB 2
    ANA 1
    SJ 1

    Not sure how TB TOR NAS people are thinking. They must feel the worst, to have a top 5 roster and only be +4. +2, +2 over .500, wow. What happened to SJ.

  • December 16, 2019 at 9:29 pm

    We hear a lot about Buckaroo BoQ and Mitchell.

    How is Beau doing? Vlassic? These guys be in rockford in 2020?

  • December 16, 2019 at 9:48 pm

    Mo,The Sharks goaltending is terrible,they are getting very little from their Captain Coutere,Karlson commits some of the most ridiculous turnovers you’ll ever see.Joe Thorton should have retired.He is playing 3rd line center and had been stuck on no goals.I think almost all of Marleaus goals are against the Hawks and they miss Pavelski and Donstoi.

  • December 16, 2019 at 9:50 pm

    re: “Keith, Seabrook, Toews, and Saad have not lived up to their salary/expected output”

    Sorry, but it gets incredibly old when people beat the hell out of tired, played out garbage narratives. Going to this argument is literally finding a steaming pile of shit and buying new shoes to step in it with.

    Duncan Keith has ABSOLUTELY lived up to his salary. He signed it before they won the first Cup.
    Brent Seabrook’s contract cannot continually be the only excuse we have for the rest of the roster being mediocre. It’s $7M. It isn’t $12M.
    I will continue to believe Toews & Kane are worth every penny of their contracts. After watching the stars of the 80s and 90s leave, I’m all-in for 19 & 88 wearing one jersey for their entire careers.

    And are we really saying Saad hasn’t lived up to his expectations? The guy is having one of his best NHL seasons.

    c’mon people…. be better. Don’t cough up arguments that were good 3 years ago and think they still hold water.

    (Also, when you include Hartman on the list of “good picks” you’re disqualified)

  • December 16, 2019 at 9:53 pm

    Tim – It’s great to want to go after the Panarins of the world if/when they’re available. There’s been one of those guys. And he wanted to play in New York. And failing to address the core issues with the roster – defense and goaltending – to chase another albatross contract is how GMs get run out of the game for good.

    Panarin on this Blackhawks roster instead of de Haan/Maatta means the Blackhawks are…. still in last place. And they’re more top heavy financially then they are now.

  • December 16, 2019 at 9:55 pm

    If anyone wanted to see a reference point on how far away the Hawks organization are from being competitive in their division all you had to do is watch the Blues vs Avalanche game tonight.I know the Avalanche had 2 of their top d men out but the Blues punched them in the mouth tonight physically dominating them negating their speed and pinning them in their zone for the 3rd period.Man,do the Hawks have a lot of work to do and pieces to obtain.

  • December 16, 2019 at 10:07 pm

    Tim – from what I saw of that game (the 3rd period) so do the Avs have a lot of work to do to be able beat STL in a playoff series – they looked like the Hawks for much of it – no sustained pressure and running around in their D zone, turning the puck over, always attacking without numbers because they spent their energy in the D zone and needed to make a line change

    STL D men must be the league’s best – it’s the strength of their team

    And let’s not forget STL is not just another Central division team to be competitive with they’re the Cup champs and that was on display in the 3rd tonight

  • December 16, 2019 at 10:17 pm

    Tab,I am with you all the way on that.I was never a keep Panarin guy especially when you have 88 on your team.I just want this team to catch up with the rest of the league physically.Too many games the Hawks are being manhandled and outskated.That has to change.Hopefully more picks like 77 will change things.I too would have grabbed the 2 d men for now as a bridge to what may get here.

  • December 16, 2019 at 10:19 pm

    Mo, Vlassic likely staying in Ncaa for 2 or 3 years but projected to be a good nhl defenseman. Beaudin quiet in Rfd so far but defense takes time might find his game yet.

    Like to see them pursue Sergachev from Bolts, they will be hard pressed finding room under cap for him and protecting him in expansion draft. Right now Boqvist is the only top pair guy who really projects as a guy you can build a blueline around, he might be the compliment to Boqvist in that regard.

    Do the due diilligence on Leafs too, who won’t be able to hang on to all their good young fwds under cap or expansion draft issues. Room could be made for these moves, without trying to trade away the cup heroes. Pulijarvi another fwd option. Lehner and draft a high end fwd again like Dach or maybe draft Askarov if its in the cards for goalie, then you make moves for fwds with that money . Gotta get new fo in place if it does happen fairly quick after season.

  • December 16, 2019 at 10:23 pm

    Wrap,very accurate breakdown.Isnt it amazing what happens when you stay physical for the whole game and stick to your coverage and game.Many of the Avalanches forwards kind of wilted and were hard to find in the 3rd.

  • December 17, 2019 at 12:06 am

    Imo, albeit humbly. We are too loaded with floaters. Kane, Cat, Strame, Nylander are all soft on defense. We have some tough decisions ahead. Kubalik and Dach seem to be willing to play a two way game but are still a bit green. Stroke is up and what to do with Nylander. Gut says, play out the season, make a head coaching call and form the roster around that style. Our system only works if everyone buys in to team defense and unfortunately we don’t have enough players willing to do so.

  • December 17, 2019 at 12:30 am

    Robs, yea thats funny. People complainging about 64 shot and sure. Hes has 5 goals in less then 41 games, thats 10 for the yr. That is very good for a 4th center player.

    Lehner is worth more then 5m. We could use faster center for 2nd and 3rd lines. Kurachev?

  • December 17, 2019 at 12:35 am

    Please stop trying to figure out a way to get Panarin (scored #20 tonight). We lost that trade. Move on.

    Must respectfully disagree with Tab. Yes, addressing defense and goaltending were the greatest needs. We got a great G but how did we improve our D? deHaan was coming off his fourth shoulder surgery and we traded our best young right-shooting D Joki for an unproven scared-of-contact forward. Also, if we still had Joki, Boqvist wouldn’t have been brought up. He is not ready for the NHL.

  • December 17, 2019 at 12:59 am

    Hawk One,That is very accurate terminology to describe the forwards on this roster-Floaters.One of the dirtiest words that you can use to describe a NHL player.You just cant win consistently with having the majority of your forwards unable to take the body effectively and being undersized.Any team can have 88 in their lineup and let him do his thing.But most teams cant do with 12,17,92 also in that same lineup let alone on the same line.When teams lineup 4 across the blueline and you have to dump and chase,somebody has to dig that puck out for your scorers.When you are tired and trapped in the defensive zone someone has to be able to deliver a hit and dig the puck out.One handed swipes with the stick and the running around chasing is not going to get it done.

  • December 17, 2019 at 7:23 am

    I just hope there isn’t more of let’s do this or that before 2, 88 and 19 are done. That thinking, which was justified a few years ago, although I wasn’t big on it-isn’t now. In hoping that Boqvist pans out (it doesn’t always) build around Dach, D-Cat and 27.
    -hope that Mitchell or Beaudin are legit
    -hope that one of Vlasic (6 ft. 6) or Regula (6ft. 4) pans out
    -find/develop a #1 young goalie
    -hope of the young forward prospects surprise everyone (that can happen)
    -hope Strome can develop his skating ability to match his thinking
    -draft or trade for an explosive forward with edge
    (re-do one trade-Joki-OK that can’t happen)

    New GM who picks his coach.
    Develop a new style-it was fun but it’s getting old. There will be a day where everything can’t go thru Kane. (that is with all due respect to one of the most skilled players ever on the planet)

  • December 17, 2019 at 9:00 am

    Hawk One, Nylander has this year and mext of being waivers exempt lef. If they really believe he can be a legitimate top 6 forward, then use that to their advantage and do it right. Give him the ultimatumm get your game together in that time or else.

  • December 17, 2019 at 9:42 am

    Tim, yea for got about Pavelski, that makes a difference.
    I would like to see our refresh reset go to the style of STL and have some speed like COL. As good as BOS was they got nailed by STL enough. Would like to have both but plenty enough of STL style so we can win both ways. Like you said if BOS and COL are two top teams per say, you need something they do not have as much as, what STL has

    Mentioned Hartman as being a good trade for us in picks, 1st and Kurachev. I am to for keeping 19 88 and 2 the whole careers. We can assemble a really good roster again with them, just need what Tim is saying.

    Ian, really like your plans on adding guys like Sergachev type situations. We do not have Buckaroo so getting a player like that is a must, unless were adding a top pair D ufa wise and that cost top heavy caphits. Got to have a top pair, so your plans are better.

    Plus we now have the space with Haan and if Haan cant play 82 games each yr or at least playoffs then we deserve another good Defensmen. Lets get that guy.

    You think Bowman or new gm/crew/good system? would pursue this and do it. We have to take advantage of the cap space and expansion situation. Have to.

  • December 17, 2019 at 9:55 am

    Tab, you wrote: Stan Bowman has not drafted well in years. You want to call me out, I will call you out too. My discussion is to the last three years since our last Cup win. Keith, Seabrook, Toews, and Saad (until this year) have not been elite talent like they were 3 years ago. Bowman has drafted well as per the 2011 draft with Shaw, Saad, and Danault.

    With regards to hartman, he was the best pick with the 30th pick compared to all others taken in the 2nd round. Only Artu]tturi Lehkonen (#55) has more goals by 1. Also, ryan hartman has more points than 16 1st round picks that were drafted before him and has played the 18th most games. I get it, Ryan Hartman was not a good pick but what does that tell you about the draft that year. Is that Stan’s fault that he actually drafted the best player he could have. This is the same draft that had marko Dano go a few picks before hartman. How did that turn out?

    There are 71 players drafted in 2013 that are still in the NHL where Tyler Motte, Ryan hartman, john hayden, and Dahlstrom are still in the bigs. 26 first rounders, 16 2nd round, 10 3rd round, 6 4th round, 5 5th round, 3 6th and 5 7th round.

    Here is how bad this draft was: John Hayden is the 47th leading goal scorer and tyler motte is the 35 leading scorer while hartman is the 16th. Here is one that will make everyone laugh, Anthony Duclair, drafted 80, is the 8th leading scorer in 2013. ahead of Max Domi, Jonathon Droiun,

    This is fun showing you how well Stan drafted in years 2011 and 2013. I really showed everyone how well Tallon has drafted except for his first round picks which the Hawks could not have had. Bowman ate his lunch with having 6 better drafts out of 8 with 1 a tie (Gilbert) could be the difference maker. Will send 2010, 12, 14,15,16

  • December 17, 2019 at 9:59 am

    Toews is definitely not worth the 10.5 million that he is currently being paid and as time passes Toews current contract won’t start looking any better.

    While I agree the hawks could not afford to pay Panarin that is only because of all of the high dollar long term no trade contracts that were handed out to the core and the unwillingness of hawks management to try to trade anyone within the core to free up the capspace. I’m not aware of any core members being asked to wave their no trade contracts. Panarin could have been the start of a new younger core.

    If New York was Panarins first choice to play NHL hockey why didn’t he just sign with the Rangers when he first came over? Seems fairly obvious that Panarins first choice was to play in Chicago.

  • December 17, 2019 at 10:11 am

    2012 was not a good draft by Stan bowman as he did miss a lot and could have drafted some good talent in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. The first pick was incredible as TT (18) is the 5th leading points and Vinny (169) is the 32 leading points. Oli Maata was taken 5 picks after TT and Slater KK was taken 10th. Erik Gustafson is the 30th leading scorer Not the best draft but certainly got good value with TT and Vinnie.

    77 players are still the NHL from this draft 24 1st Round, 11 2nd Round, 15 3rd round, 9 4th round, 7 5th round, 7 6th round, and 3 7th round

  • December 17, 2019 at 10:19 am

    Hawks 2020:

    Love the discussion. However, there are some fatal flaws in your analysis.

    First, as I outlined at length, the Blackhawks have NOT drafted well in the back half of the decade. Ryan Hartman was supposed to fill a need – he didn’t. And they then traded him for minimal return. Like they did with Danault – who, by the way, was drafted EIGHT years ago.

    While I appreciate you pointing out that the 2nd round of the 2013 Draft (Hartman) wasn’t great, the Blackhawks passed on Jake Guentzel three times – Hartman, Carl Dahlstrom & John Hayden. And while I also appreciate you pointing out that Hartman, Motte, Hayden & Dahlstrom are all “still in the bigs,” they aren’t still in Chicago. Which goes back to one of my major points: the Blackhawks haven’t drafted well, they also haven’t developed/kept those they have developed long enough for them to impact the NHL roster in a cost efficient way.

    Also, while I again appreciate you pointing out how well Bowman drafted in 2011 & 2013 you missed the biggest point of that article. Bowman hasn’t drafted well in the past 5 years, which is why the Hawks are scrambling for table scraps now while kids are still in college/developing.

    And, again, I love that Tallon’s name continues to come up. He had the #1 overall pick and made the right choice on Kane. Toews fell into his lap at 3 the same way Michael Jordan fell into the lap of the Bulls. Tallon was a marvelous GM and I’ve given him credit for the entire decade we’ve had this site up, but the extent to which people say he should still be responsible for the 2013 & 15 Cups needs to end. Bowman had to navigate the cap and rebuild after a purge in 2010 that was required because of Tallon’s cap management (fax machine issues).

  • December 17, 2019 at 10:29 am

    @Ian: I do not expect Nylander to last very long once Stan is sacked unless the new GM is wearing rose-colored glasses. Too soft, too sloppy, too entitled.

  • December 17, 2019 at 10:49 am

    The 2010 draft like the 2012 draft may not be the best but Stan did draft Hayes (24), Holl (54) currently playing for Toronto Maple Leafs, Stephen Johns (60) and Joakim Nordstrom (90). Too bad Johns got hurt, he was looking good.

    Hayes has scored the 18 most points, Nordstrom 38, Johns 53, Holl 66 most points.

    106 players have played in the nhl with 58 still currently playing. 21 1st round, 11 2nd round, 5 3rd round, 4 4th, 10 5th, 5 6th and 2 7th. Holl has scored the 19th most points and Johns 13th as a DEF in the NHL. Holl has scored more points than 3 first round DEF. And you say Stan has drafted poorly.

  • December 17, 2019 at 10:59 am

    Lets just hope Wirtz refresh gm/crew/good system, gets roster adjusted to what Tim is talking about. STL roster beats BOS and COL? We should go that way. Just keep the good fast and skilled players and add what we do not have.

    There really is no excuse for not being tuff enough. Add more and the right ones of that kind, please.

  • December 17, 2019 at 11:04 am

    Jordy tend to agree, that’s what i was gettting at, he has another year of elc and waivers exempt, give him a chance in Rfd,, to show he belongs or so long, if earns a callup, give it to him, if he needs to go down again, do it. If they can trade him so be it but don’t expect anything close to Joki in return. Thing is last 2 seasons he played mostly less than stellar hockey in Ahl, let him show he can play at that level consistently and responsibly first.

  • December 17, 2019 at 11:54 am

    The last five years may not have been that good but the last three there still has some key talent that needs to develop. DCat was a HR and Henri looks solid as well. It stinks Stan traded Henri but that would not get us to the Cup. You and I will disagree. Keith, Seabrook, Toews, Crow, Saad in the last three years have not lived up to what is expected with the contract they have signed. the loss of Hossa was devastating and Oduya, Sharp, and Nik H brought down the Hawks dynasty. The lack of draft and some bad trades have not helped. It takes Elite Talent to win Cups. Pittsburgh has not had a first round pick since 2014 until this year. In 2014, they drafted Kasperi Kapanen (22) the same year the Hawks drafted Nick Schmaltz.

    Hayden and Guentzel were in the USHL at the time of drafting. To say that Stan drafted the wrong guy is not fair to either player. Hayden did not turn out. Taylor Cammarata was in the USHL league and was equally as good as both but has yet to play in the NHL. Tallon drafted Ian McCoshen (31) from the USHL.

    We will disagree on what truly brought down the Hawks. For me veterans stopped being elite and others retired or were moved.

  • December 17, 2019 at 11:59 am

    We can only hope Nylander turns it around like Drouin did. I see the talent Nylander has but scratch my head at times during the game.

  • December 17, 2019 at 12:24 pm

    When our roster is more like STL, say between BOS/COL and STL, in terms of tuff players. Would that give mroe space for players like Nylander/Sikura because if that doesnt allow them to play for what they are good at. Yea.

    We need some Joe Mcgraths here, not this bunch of.

  • December 17, 2019 at 12:28 pm

    Nylander was given his opportunity in the AHL to develop with Buffalo and he did nothing.I agree with Ian,its over with now.Send him down to Rockford,with the impossible for him,laundry list of what he has to work on and be done with him.If Joki turns out to be a top d man for Buffalo this year somebody from this Organization should have to come forward with the real reason why he was moved.As I said when the trade was done,its a huge red flag when a young player trashes an organization on his way out the door.Send him down and he will pout his way to a Euro hockey league.

  • December 17, 2019 at 1:42 pm

    Q played Buckaroo, not Kempny and Gusto that much. What does that say Leddy also sat the pine in the important part of 3rd period.

    Other then Kempny, look like Q plays the guys that can play D and not the guys who are OFF oriented.

  • December 17, 2019 at 2:45 pm

    Read an article on the Fanside site which was titled the 3 Reasons not to fire Colliton.I dont think they realize how bad he is in game but I sat back and did realize that he is not going anywhere and neither is this Bowman/McDonaugh management team.We are stuck with this mess guys.

  • December 17, 2019 at 3:26 pm

    I agree with Hawks 2020 – you can argue bad trades have been made and draft picks not retained and developed but the Hawks draft record is pretty good from what evidence I can see and 2020 is providing

    You can’t really tell much from the last 3 years anyway because most players need to develop longer than that – Justin Holl drafted in 2010 by the Hawks is finally a regular player in 2019 for example

    I think too many are jumping on the the Nylander sucks bandwagon – let’s see where he’s at after a full year – I still like his skills and am cautiously optimistic he can learn some of things he needs to to elevate his game

    It seems the same people who think the Hawks should have been patient with DuClair after how many seasons (3-4?) of floundering now want to throw Nylander under the bus after 34 games this year plus 12 from last year

    Young players can take time – give him a little

  • December 17, 2019 at 3:36 pm

    Wrap we can be too impulsive at times-but this is his 4th pro year with over 220 pro games under his belt. Your right we should give him some time, he is 21 but I think this is the year to really impress the fans and management and it needs to start soon.
    The next 50 games is his try out not just for his current team but for his pay day-if that doesn’t light a fire in his belly, nothing will.

    Is he a player that can make others better, or do other players need to make him look good?

  • December 17, 2019 at 4:04 pm

    Wrap, we are all pulling for Nylander to develop, considering he is still young. What is so concerning is that he has not shown any improvement in 34 games. Immediately after the trade, the experts were unanimous that Joki was the better player. Some at this site said we were heavy in d-men, meaning we could afford to make that trade. Based on our farm system, in which just a few have a chance of eventually making the big club? What about this season?

    Bowman lost the Schmaltz trade, at least by a small margin. Lost the trade for Shaw by a big margin. At the moment, lost the Joki trade by a big margin. Other than Lehner, can someone explain how we have improved over year?

  • December 17, 2019 at 4:05 pm

    Wrap Nylander has until end of 2021 left on his elc and is waiver exempt until then too. Let him go down to Rfd, and show he deserves to be in Nhl. No more if this special treatment masquerade. Cherry picking a nice pass now again doesn’t make him a hockey player.

  • December 17, 2019 at 4:07 pm

    I agree that some young players need time to develope. In most cases they prove their worth in the AHL then are brought up to the big club. Nylander has done nothing for 3 yrs in the AHL and nothing so far this season with the hawks. So the only conclusion I can come up with is : so not to make the Joki trade look so bad. Also IMO its sends a bad message to the kids in Rockford who are busting their butt and this floater stays with the hawks. He has done absolutely nothing to deserve being with the hawks yet continues to be rewarded. Yet another one of the many reasons I do have faith in this management

  • December 17, 2019 at 4:20 pm

    Improved by having a full roster, having PK guys and better D guys then we had last two yrs. Doesnt help those 2nd picks, though we wernt suppose to be this bad with a full roster. PK is good. The other stuff is not working, team system and other things.

    Haan is good and Maatta is ok. To give BoQ, Mitchell, Beau time to be ready. Cant believe Haan got flipped over on the same shoulder, thats crazy.

    Still think we need good system and roster revamp. Young wave was going to be the players that carry us once were back in the top teams again, not some of these others players.

    I am not mad at Bowman, just want the good system and roster revamp to refresh, so we can be good again with the young wave.

    Tim, has a good point as good as BOS and COL are now STL can hold them up with the way they are built. If we cant be as fast/skilled as BOS and COL, we should go like STL, at least enough of the players.

    We got a full roster this yr, and it didnt work like it should have. Now lets get a good system and reoster revamp and we still got a little time before young wave is ready.

  • December 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm

    Original 6 how did Bowman lose the Shaw trade? Right now it is shaw for a bunch of picks in 2020 and 2021. The trade to Montreal netted us Dcat and Krys who may not amount to much.

    Wraparound, I watch Nylander and he has talent. It is very obvious. To those that think he should be sent down, is highmore or sikura better than him? Who in rockford can take his place?

  • December 17, 2019 at 4:36 pm

    Top 5 skill draft player

    DET 14
    NJ 7
    OTT 4
    LA 4
    CHI 2
    CLB 2
    ANA 1
    SJ 1

    Not post this everyday, was thinking we prob cant do worse then DET and NJ so have to get lucky to beat OTT and LA otherwise were about 5th pick worst case.

    Which means lottery for 2nd or 3rd pick, for the type of players Ian is talking about. Could get lucky and get 3rd or 4th, can OTT and LA keep it up.

  • December 17, 2019 at 4:41 pm

    Wirtz keeps everything the same until deadline, then were not looking at playoffs at that moment in time and maybe that will have Bowman make the trades and add a bunch of 2nds, some 3rds and 4ths, for the good players we have that are ufas.

    That way will be around .500 by ‘playing’ in half the games, no matter who were playing. Would need to stay within reach of OTT and LA to have a shot at 3rd/4th pick.

  • December 17, 2019 at 4:45 pm

    Beacuse last deadline we were like 12-2 or 15-5 (on a roll) from game something to deadline. This time I think were not doing that. Could but doesnt look like it.

    So could help for deadline action.

  • December 17, 2019 at 4:49 pm

    If we don’t have anyone in the minors to replace Nylander then this organization is in deep trouble.

  • December 17, 2019 at 5:04 pm

    Well said BOBBY9.At the Allstar Break I would hope that Fortin,Wedin,and McCoshen would be brought up for the rest of the year.I like Kubalik,s overall game but it looks like his shooting skills have regressed a bit from the start of the year.Also think that Gus will be moved at the deadline.

  • December 17, 2019 at 5:14 pm

    Arnt most of our top prospects in college.

    27 and 77 are here, only because they are that good/not now but are going to be.

    Kurachev Beau, lets go baby, progress baby.

    This here is the way.
    December 17, 2019 at 7:23 am
    I just hope there isn’t more of let’s do this or that before 2, 88 and 19 are done. That thinking, which was justified a few years ago, although I wasn’t big on it-isn’t now. In hoping that Boqvist pans out (it doesn’t always) build around Dach, D-Cat and 27.
    -hope that Mitchell or Beaudin are legit
    -hope that one of Vlasic (6 ft. 6) or Regula (6ft. 4) pans out
    -find/develop a #1 young goalie
    -hope of the young forward prospects surprise everyone (that can happen)
    -hope Strome can develop his skating ability to match his thinking
    -draft or trade for an explosive forward with edge
    (re-do one trade-Joki-OK that can’t happen)

    New GM who picks his coach.
    Develop a new style-it was fun but it’s getting old. There will be a day where everything can’t go thru Kane. (that is with all due respect to one of the most skilled players ever on the planet)

  • December 17, 2019 at 5:19 pm

    Interesting we didnt do to good without Dunks, Crawford the coach. Thing is now we do not have Haan and that is massive for this roster. Thats like playing with only one of Lehner or Crow.

    guy Ian talks about / 27
    2 / 5
    Beau / Mitch
    Gilbert / Vlassic

  • December 17, 2019 at 5:22 pm

    We better load up on 2nd and 3rd picks, with what Button says about this draft being that deep in first few rounds. We need it and the timing is good.

  • December 17, 2019 at 5:25 pm

    Hawks 2020 – nice analysis regarding draft results and I agree with Wrap on Nylander. I have real concerns but I’m not ready to toss him after playing 30 or so games in this circus. Let’s evaluate at the end of the year and if he needs to spend time in Rockford so be it.

  • December 17, 2019 at 5:27 pm

    What style does the Crawford the coach have. Is it more like STL or more like BOS/COL/other?

  • December 17, 2019 at 6:21 pm

    Marc Crawford is more of an offensive minded Coach.He likes a fast type of play and transition game .Not sure if he has changed much .Dont know if this roster could play that game.Too many east west forwards and not much speed on the backend either.

  • December 17, 2019 at 6:25 pm

    After the timeout he was put on,I doubt they would have him as head coach.I believe Colliton is here for at least the rest of the 20-21 season.

  • December 17, 2019 at 6:33 pm

    Mo in alot of ways Crawford could be a good fit, he had the Sedins in Vancouver when they were young. He likes a an offensive up beat style which Canucks became, not known as a defensive coach but a hard coach but mellower now i guess. Players seem to mostly like him, Austin Matthews praised in his draft year for teaching how to be a pro.

    Vlassic be a few years away likely but Mitchell and Regula both probably start in Rfd., next season and potential callup material as season moves on, Mitchell at least. Regula still teenager yet, lpoking forward to watching him in wjcs.

    20/20 if not those 2 in Nylanders spot, Cagguila is due back any time, Quenneville playing well lately has some Nhl experience, they at least work alot harder and fight for the puck.

  • December 17, 2019 at 6:35 pm

    I think Stan should have been sacked before the 2018 draft, but that didn’t happen so this year I identified my three current criteria that he should be evaluated upon.

    1) The teams’s 2019/20 performance.

    We are 27th overall (and right at the cap). Verdict: Fail.

    2) The Joki trade

    We gave up a guy who if not already would have been our best defender within a year’s time. Verdict: Epic Fail.

    3) The development of the 2018 and 2019 draft classes.

    Dach looks promising. Boqvist, so far, has not shown the offensive genius that he was touted for (in fairness he should be back in the A where he can develop). Beaudin isn’t making any noise. Verdict: Mixed.

    Overall verdict: Fail with termination recommended.

  • December 17, 2019 at 8:11 pm

    I see Fortin’s name being brought up as someone who deserves a look at the NHL level – has he improved? is he playing well in RKF? I don’t know those answers but I know he didn’t do enough in his last stints with the Hawks to remain with the big club

    He’s fast but showed no hands and no defensive acumen – can I assume he’s playing better now? – at one time I had hopes for him but I had frankly given up on him being an NHL player

  • December 17, 2019 at 8:50 pm

    Thanks, didnt know. So yea kind of the same then.

    Like to know this stuff.

    Look at how much better Gilbert is from last yr.

    These guys season and could be good enough at some point.

    Man Beau and Kurachev lets go baby.

  • December 17, 2019 at 8:55 pm

    I guess the Ico dudes not playing this yr, with 2 44 out he still didnt play.

    Thats fine for now, would like to see him and Micth get games next season 1st 40 games.

  • December 17, 2019 at 9:38 pm

    Wrap Hagel is somebody who maybe be good for a callup. Putting together decent year in Rfd. Agree Fortin had his chance likely, not getting in regularly in Rfd., tgis season. Probably not resigned after this year.

  • December 17, 2019 at 11:12 pm

    Just for comparison and information Fortin played 24 games here ,Duclair 23 games.Think we would agree,not a huge sample size.All had similar goal stats.

  • December 17, 2019 at 11:16 pm

    Dylan Sikura-40 games 0 goals 11 assists. ALEX Nylander-34 games. 4 goals. 12 assists.

  • December 18, 2019 at 7:04 am

    Jeremy Morin-54 games 15 points with the Hawks-
    (last year-played with Khanty Mansiysk, Bern SC, HPK Hameenlinna, and South Carolina Stingrays.

  • December 18, 2019 at 7:21 am

    Those guys did get a chance to play here, and thats what they did. Our teams were better then to so the recent guys, might be slighytly different.

    Other then a couple, TT was salary cap or expansion anyways? How were you doing Bicks for expansion at the time. Danault was overkill, but I understand adding more for 16 when we didnt in 14 thinking, not going to not add again like we did in 14, could have been 4 back to back.

    Buckaroo and other players because of coaches. Q had some to. Every coach does.

  • December 18, 2019 at 8:18 am

    Tim, Nylander with a less well rounded, one dimensional game, should say it’s time to go done and work on that part of his game and earn a recall.

  • December 18, 2019 at 8:22 am

    Nylander is not somebody who has shown he can produce and just needs to get it going, he is a one dimensional player who hasn’t shown yet he can make that work at either Nhl or Ahl level in his career.

  • December 18, 2019 at 8:51 am

    Nylander is Stalberg 2.0. Been saying it since October

  • December 18, 2019 at 9:46 am

    Tab,How dare you insult the great Victor Stalbetg that way. At least he was entertaining to watch with his speed and found a body once in awhile.The next time I see Nylander beat somebody up the ice or accidentally bump into somebody,I will chronicle it for posterity sake.

  • December 18, 2019 at 8:19 pm

    Man some times it seems to easy for the other team. The get way more shots, scoring chances, more cycle, more 50/50 board wins, more cross checks to the back of the neck in front of the net, more getting to loose pucks, more everything.

    If we had it that easy, we would be 20-8.

    I know COL is a top 5 team now, but still.

    Seems like it though.

    We need more youth and roster revamp.

  • December 18, 2019 at 8:37 pm

    DET 15
    NJ 6

    OTT 4
    CHI 3
    LA 3
    ANA 3
    SJ 2
    CLB 0

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