Report: Blackhawks Shopping Perlini
TSN’s Bob McKenzie reported on Thursday night that the Blackhawks are working with forward Brendan Perlini and his agent, Darren Ferris, to find somewhere else for him to play.
Perlini, 23, was acquired from Arizona with Dylan Strome in the deal sending Nick Schmaltz to the Coyotes. He was originally the 12th overall pick in the 2014 NHL Draft. He scored 12 goals in 46 games with Chicago after the deal last season, but has only appeared in one game thus far in the 2019-20 season.
The Blackhawks didn’t sign Perlini until Sept. 6; he was an RFA over the summer. He is playing on a one-year deal with a $874,125 cap hit and will be a restricted free agent again in the summer of 2020.
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I was going to say it’s too bad because he has what it takes from the neck down but that would not entirely capture the missing ingredient that keeps Perlini from being a very good NHL player. Yes, the main problem is the rainbows and lollipops outlook on life living between his ears, but that’s what causes the main missing ingredient which is no fire in his belly. If he wanted to be a good player bad enough he would be, but heretofore he hasn’t shown the internal drive to rise to the top of his profession.
He seems like a nice guy and I wish him well, but at this point – see ya.
TO OTTAWA
B. Perlini
Z. Smith
5th Round 2020
TO CHICAGO
6th Round 2020
To get ride off Smith’s contract too!
Bring Up someone like Wedin – Versteeg for the 13th forward spot
@Ebony 100% spot on with the assessment of Perlini.
Can we package him with Gus the turnover machine please?….
Also, Hull will be very mad about this.
AND START THINKING ABOUT A REEL COACHING STAFF!!
HEY JEREMY !!! TRY THIS
Kubalik – Toews – Kane
DeBrincat – Strome – Saad
Nylander – Dach – Shaw
Kampf – Carpenter – Caggiula
(Versteeg)
Keith – de Haan
Maatta – Seabrook
Gilbert – Gustafsson -> ( next one to be gone )
Koekkoek
Lehner
Crawford
It’s a starting point! Not the finish line!
I think a bunch of folks on the forum planned this long before Stan!!
Tab, correct me if I’m wrong, but the Versteeg contract is AHL only?
And IMO Versteeg is not the answer and never has been….
However, I agree the top 6 needs a change.
Toews and Cat have zero chemistry.
Cat needs to be with Strome.
That’s all I can muster for now.
Sign Versteeg to 1 year – 650K
Or bring Up Wedin …
With Perlini basically gone, the trade is now Schmautz for Strome. So far not looking good for Bowman.
JC is in over his head and dumbass Bowman is clueless. Gus needs to go. Who cares about Perlini, should have not signed him and let him bag groceries at Walmart. How soon before Rocky gets a set and fires both JC and Bowman. Maybe McDonut should leave as well. Every time I see him he reminds me of Pulford and not in a good way.
Oh and re-unite Strome and DCat and Toews and Kane please.
Sorry, but that is an admission that he was a poor player from the start, so all the hype of “we got another 1st rounder for the Schmaltz trade” was utter BS from Stan. And another indictment on his evaluation of talent.
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Isles trying to move Ho-sang too underachiever for underachiever getting new chance, nothing to lose either way.
Back in September, as Perlini remained unsigned, I was told the Hawks did NOT want him back. When I suggested to my contact that they trade Perlini for a draft pick, I was told, nobody wants him. When I asked what’s going to happen, the reply was, he will probably come to camp and some point be put on waivers.
Saying all that, one thing was clear, he was done in Chicago.
Cannot happen quickly enough, literally wasting roster space
I`ll never suggest Perlini is anything more than he is, HOWEVER, there’s another very disturbing trend here in Chicago where we give up on another young, skilled, speedy player that could possibly amount to something . Duclair had 19 goals last year and three already this year, more than any other Blackhawk not named Patrick Kane. We’ve thrown away Danault for nothing, gave Teravainen away as if there was no other option to unload Bickel`s contract, and traded Schmaltz for Strome. I like Strome`s all around play but the jury is still out here. Then there’s the Kempny fiasco as well. For god`s sake he’s playing top 4 for Washington right now, a much better team than us. We have to find a way to coach these kids and implement them into the lineup and have them succeed. I’m as mad at Keving Hayes as anyone for not signing in Chicago after we drafted him in the first round but boy would he look good as our first line centre right now. We can blame Kevin Hayes all we want but there’s probably two sides to the story here as to why he turned us down. These 4 or 5 examples are a few too many for the organization. They set a bad example and send the wrong message to players we draft and our players in the organization. We need to get bigger, faster, and stronger. I for one would rather us try and develop Perlini into something before giving him a way for nothing. I think however, the damage is done and he obviously doesn’t`t want to play for us anymore. There’s nothing good that can come from that.
Craig, if that was the case ( which I believe), then that’s another bone head move by this management. Why keep someone on the roster that you have no intention of playing. Less than a yr ago Bowman praised his talents and by the end of the yr he no longer wanted him on the team.
Perlini. Duclair. Nylander. Stahlberg. Runblad. Clendening. Pirri (and look at him now). There are many of them. About 20-25 of them every first round of every entry draft.
I worry more about Strome landing in the same category. Wake up Dylan. Your future is this year.
Nylander looking like he got the message. But so did Dylan last year. We need them both.
Those players are kids, thrown into an adult world. Some into a foreign land. They’ve been stroked all their lives with praise for their abilities. The top of the pyramid is only so big. Each rung below the top is filled with players theoretically trying to move up another rung, and so on down to the bottom. Finding your place on the pyramid can be humbling, or a satisfying experience. But ultimately, once you get the chance, you probably should work your hind end off to find out how high you can actually go. Maybe you get lucky along the way and find some players willing to extend a hand and help you to the next level. Show them your gratitude by not wasting the opportunity.
Not everyone gets to be the best. Why Carpenter for 3 years? Because he knows his place in the pyramid and is happy about where he has settled. He does his job well, and every night. When you get a team of players who believe in that, they have a great opportunity to wear a big, gaudy ring. See 2019 Stanley Cup Champions. A team I thought I could never cheer for, but somehow won me over because of their work ethic and togetherness.
Fortunately, I am over that now!
With respect, i wouldn’t call a 23-year old a kid.
I agree on Carpenter, he’s a keeper.
As for the Blues -roster-wise, that team had talent on it. Also some size. Look at their D – Bortuzzo, Edmunson, Pietrangelo, Parayko – all tough on the opponent. Their wings in Schenn, Barbashev, O’Reilly. There is a plateau where effort can only go so far – teams must have some talent to drive a consistent level of play.
Perlini is a start, toss in Gus and Smith and see what you get, even if it’s prospects, leave the new comers in Rockford and bring up some of our best prospects….. they can’t do any worse than what we have already.
Didn’t like the vibe from Colliton’s post game presser. He said that he could throw any line combos out there and they would work if the players had the right work ethic. I disagree. It may be true in some cases, like for the Hawks 2015 squad perhaps, but an NHL beginner coach saying that about this team is not a confidence builder. And it seems no players wanted to go on camera after last night’s fiasco. Couldn’t find a single player remark.
Tony actually Lehner gave a very candid interview. Called teammates out saying the result was what they deserved, didn’t do right things, especially puck managenent. Said team has got to be better himself included, didn’t make the big save to keep them in it.
Tony….except Lehner. lol
Good riddance to Perlini. Of course now all the leaders on the Hawks are playing like Perlini now. Sigh.
90% of the game is mental and 10% is physical. Bsaically Perlini needs a brain transplant.
As for Schmaltz. I stand by my criticism of him while he was in Chicago. Whats driving him right now is he had to listen to all that Chicago won the deal for 8 or 9 months.
I still believe in Strome but put him back at center. Hes better there. I like Kampf because he does play hard but the guy has no finishing touch. He needs to be on the 4th line where he belongs. That’s what he is. Accept it.
I keep wondering aboot Kubalik and Saad on the first line. Toews plays his best when he plays with these types. And it can’t just be one winger. It must be both.
Big Hoss and Saad were his best linemates. Big strong players. That’s what Toews plays best with.
Silent and Trip F. – nice posts. There is a lot more to this situation than ragging on fourth liners. I will disagree with the comment on Kevin Hayes. I want no part of him at $7m per year for 7 years. When he is motivated he can be a solid center but he has also proven he can be pretty average.
Ian – the word I always heard re: Ho-Sang is that his attitude is horrible. Have no idea if this is true but that’s a tough tag to shake. I believe Pirri had a bad rep for a while but he seems to have gotten the message that he is out of chances. A guy like Ho-Sang is worth a shot without much downside – he has to know it is his last shot at the NHL.
MS I disagree, people like Ho-Sang don’t amazingly change, after many years. Perhaps not a lot of downside money wise but he is who he is-even more talented than Perlini with a very well known poor attitude and ‘victim’ response on every team he’s been on.
–a solid NO. (I hope)
Thanks, Ian. Now I’ve seen them. Saw Kaner’s as well.
Fire Stan, Fire JC, bring back Q, bring back Tallon. This front office is a joke!!
Yea, not Ho-Sang. I’m tired of these trades. There’s enough headaches in the dressing room.
Fair enough re Ho-Sang – good point that we don’t need another potential headache. I would rather take a chance on someone that hasn’t yet put it together but has some skill rather than a conditional 6th round draft pick. I wonder if we offered Perlini to Florida for McCoshen and they said “no thanks” we want Saarela.
Not pushing Ho sang at all, it’s just as Craig said nobody it seems wants him, so it’s likely that or waivers. Not sure if he would report to Rfd at this point, if he has oneway contract and gets Nhl salary in minors he might, forget if does.
MS…Yea its possible. I only know that Saarela did ask to be traded as he wasn’t happy being cut so Chicago obliged as they didn’t want that in the Icehogs dressing room.
My problem with all of the talk about moving Dach to center on a third line right now is that we would need to protect him with a face-off player on the line. Dach clearly will get his behind kicked this year (remember Krueger his first year?) and if you want that line to shutdown/control the other team’s top line, then it may not be a good idea to basically concede the face-off to them each time Dach is out there. Saad and Kubalik don’t fit that role.
I think he is fine on the wing, but if the Hawks plan to use him as a center, then they best put him on a line where his poor face-off stats hurt less. He doesn’t seem like a 4th liner – and we are looking good there anyway. I know he is getting help in practice, but he could get destroyed in games and lose confidence.
I’m also a believer that if you move Saad right now up the lines, it would be best to move Kubalik with him too. They obviously mesh well. I see Kubalik as middle 6 guy right now, but putting him with 19 could work with 20 on the other side.
JC has some tough choices right now. We have a much more pliable versatile group of players this year, but that almost automatically means that there would be less consistency in line mates and JC keeps blending until he finds what he wants.
I just finished listening to the most recent 31 Thoughts podcast and Elliote Friedman talks aboot Saarela traded to Florida for McCoshen. Both players wanted out so it made the trade easier. He mentions Saarela is not lacking for confidence and truly believes he belongs in the NHL. Before the trade he was Icehogs 4th line player which surprised me as he’s a sniper and was one of the Blackhawks last cuts. It probably means he was sulking so King put him on the 4th line…at least that’s my guess.
As for McCoshen…I looked thru these THN FUTURE WATCH mags and he was very highly regarded. Even other teams constantly enquired aboot him. 2017 Florida asst GM said theres no way they will trade him. 2019…they traded him. They had him regarded as ‘Shea Weber lite’ but obviously that hasn’t happened and so he asked for the fresh start.
No one like a sulking sniper do they now .
Loags – thanks for the info on the trade. We need the guy to be a Shea Weber clone, not the lite version!!
Silent agree if they decide to go with Dach and Strome at C instead of Kampf, then putting a 20, 19, 8 in a matchup role against other top lines be best route. Then go with 77, 88, maybe 92/65 and 12, 17,65/91 as 2 offensive lines and Kampf on 4th with 91/92 and 22. With possibly best defensive defenseman out indefinitely in a system that asks the center to act as a 3rd defenseman, moving your best center this season at doing that to try and breaking up best line might not be that beneficial. Unless the possible increase in offense far outweighs the all around loss of defense. As we saw last couple of years, that ain’t gonna likely happen on a very regular basis.
If they knew they really didn’t want Perlini, why not play him more? Maybe he scores a couple goals so that we actually get something in return for for him. As it stands now, GMs can just wait and claim him off waivers.
The whole matter is perplexing. Did they want him or not? If not, why sign him? And if yes, why not play him? It doesn’t give us fans much confidence in the GM.
Loags, like your post.
Hayes would have a Cup, if he didnt tuck tail and run for the money and demand playtime. F this guy.
Everybody pretty much has similiar lines.
20 19 8
92 77 88
12 17 65
91 22 64
The skilled youth and Kaner could be fun.
I like the idea of two players that are making things happen to score threat. Thats why I have 92 77 with 88. For faceoffs yea that screws that up. I guess you could do 65 hes decent at faceoffs.
Ian, your right about 3rd line, although we might should do this anyways because it can get the team going and we can always go back to that 3rd line if we want.
I do think the lines everybody here has are similiar and would kick start something good because these lines make sense. Overall as 4 lines, not worrying about the 3rd being really good, we need 4 lines more right now.
Mo Carpenter was looking like a beast on fos, then little tougher competition last night and he goes 0 for 4. So jury still out there until get clearer picture, Dach and Strome both struggle against normal guys as much as Kampf does against top guys. Shaw doesn’t go up against top guys either. Gotta be careful there too.
To be honest the Hawks don’t have a good face off player. Toews is regressing and gets thrown out more and more. Dach wouldn’t be any more of a liability than anyone else.
Read somewhere since PHI game that 77 and 92 are creating and threats to score everytime on the ice so thats where I thought of put them together and add a Kaner.
Based on evertything I read and think myself here recently I like this.
20 19 8
92 77 88
12 17 65
91 22 64
Ian – re: Kampf moving to 4th line (if that ever happens) and Toews matching up vs opponents top line
That might be a way of getting Toews going – give him more responsibility – I think he likes that role – shut down the opponent’s top line and outscore them as well
Maybe he’s a bit of a fish out of water being counted on as more of an offensive line – he’s lost his identity in a sense – so yes 20-19-8 and matchup them up vs the opponents top line – give Toews his old gig back
Despite JC’s rant about it shouldn’t matter what the lines are it does matter what the lines are and who you play with and how the three complement each other and how they’re used in the game plan
I thought that was one of the coaches main jobs – if it didn’t matter what the lines were I could coach the Hawks lol
Wrap and Ian – I think the 3 of us are on same page.
Take a listen JC!!!
Wrap think his point was, when they felt like giving the effort last night they dominated. They did it in spite of the lines more so than because of them.
Watching Toews it seems like nobody has been burned more from letting his man score and not shutting him down. Don’t know if he would thrive there or not anymore, may be part of the reason Colliton taking those responsibilities away from him.
This is all quite simple, as basic as it gets.
1). If the players suck or aren’t performing well, that’s 1000% on Bowman bc he put the team together, i.e. trades, draft and free agents.
2). If the players don’t suck and are good players (which the coach stated after the last game), that’s 1000% on Bowman bc he hired the coach.
3). The players suck (Bowman chose all the players) and the coach sucks (Bowman chose the coach) combination.
As a refresher, Bowman met the coach in
Europe, courted the coach from Europe to Rockford, and hand picked him to take over for Queneville — w/ the worst possible timing for the team’s sake. To boot. If the players don’t suck, the coach certainly does, and Bowman picked the coach.
It’s been nearly a year since Queneville was fired, and we’ve come full circle. The facts are clear, select 1) 2) or 3) above, but there is only one person to blame for the state of affairs to date:
BOWMAN.
Bang on Jim Ross and Bobby9. We need to clean house with Bowman and JC. Here is another perdiction…Bowman traded away Joku and probasbly only Boqvist will play some games in Chicago but he is so weak defensively that he will be a bust. And does anyone think with their smurf size Beaudin and Mitchell will be NHL impact players? The answer is NO. This means Bowman and Kelley should go. This coach is useless too. Admit that Kane and Toews saved his job last season when he finally put them together. His system is flawed, he had no system and and cannot build line combibations that produce offence first.
When this is all done, PERLINI will have more points than KUBALIK, NYLANDER, KAMPF AND CAGG combined. Versteeg is still better than Kubalik! So was Saarela! So is Quenneville but all these players apart from Perlini and Versteeg are not NHL calibre. And please, no more Dylan Sikura talk. He still weights 155 pounds and is scared of his own shadow. He is not the player we need on the wing. We need a James Neal or Evander Kane type winger. We have a TOP Power forward in Saad but this brilliant coach would rather see the players mentioned above play ahead of him. Joke.
Bowman is the reason for this downfall and hiring this coach is proof he has no idea what he is doing!
Erik Gudbranson traded to the Ducks for Andreas Martinsen and a 7th round pick.
How to dump salary in the NHL.
Ian – I understood JC’s point about the lines but he seemed a bit thin skinned about the line combos to me – like someone losing control of their situation
Sure the players are at fault for their lack of effort but if the players don’t believe in the coach don’t believe the coach will bring them success then it’s hard to give a consistent effort game in game out
That’s the concerning narrative to the line combo rant
If Erik Gustafson cannot successfully quarterback the power play then he is completely useless being in the lineup. His defense is so weak that if he’s not lighting it up offensively, he should not be in the lineup.
Given that he’s on an expiring contract, Stan might be able to make him part of the shakeup to a team that plays needs an offensive defenseman. Perhaps as Stan talks to GMs around the league about dumping Perlini, he can lure another GM by saying Gustafson is available but only if you take Perlini,
If the Hawks lose to Carolina today they might limp back to the UC and get thumped on Sunday and it could be a bloody Monday in Chicago 10 games in.
Hull why do you shoot yourself in the foot with the Versteeg better than Kulibak comments-it’s not logical or correct (ask Versteeg)
Either it’s for effect– to rile people or you actually don’t watch hockey. It has to be one of the two.
I do agree with the talented power winger comment (not named Perlini)
Let’s hope the hawks start to play better . Too long of a year to be complaining already. My problem is if this loosing continues I don’t trust Stan to make good trades. Last year most thought the hawks fleeced Arizona in the Schmaultz trade. I think that is still up for debate. If he fires JC (when) , he has to take responsibility for the fact he fired Q , when he knew the team was no good and brought in this guy
I would rather Collitan goes to Rockford it wasnt his fault that we didnt do good, per say and deserves to stay organization not go to another just because of this. We wanted a change, so Q, then ?, then ? until its fixed. Must have good people though, nothing against these guys. I mean thats why we got had Q when Savard was coach. So maybe the same for Crawford guy.
Looks that way, now, but the Gusto trade sell high was spot on which ever person here said that. I ddnt think he would do 60 pts again, was thinking 40-50 but how do you go from 60 to 15 looking. Funny in 2013 people were saying 29 or 25 and during the 82 games most, myself, and, though keeping 25. Then the playoffs. So same with 56 and 20 during the first 10 games last yr. Now look at it.
Can always cut a tree down later. Cant put it back.
I am still going by games 10-20, but we got problems and they need to be beat to punishment.
Coming out today with a strong effort and getting at least a point, 2 be better can help temporarily calm things down. Heres hoping for a good matinee in Carolina.
Lots of good comments posts here and second city om this stuff.
I am going by games 10-20, because of sch. and usually always wait for games 6-10.
Maybe this stuff happening is exactly what we need to get things put aside and get moving forward.
Some things for sure are the young fast skilled players like 92 77 are going to needed to get roster quality deep again. We have 27 and Michell coming next. So as we add 2 new age youngters and take out 2 older dudes we get better by 4 some. Also we have to , have to have 2 Defensive Defensemen playing, without 5 or 44 makes too much of a difference.
Help is on the way, 92 77, then 27 Mitchell. Need to get our act together by the time these guys are ready to roll. By the 2nd 40 games we could be rolling.
For now move your ass!
Craig – agree on possible weekend massacre
JC has to be on a game number clock and if the worst happens and they play like crap for the next 2 games that could spell the end for Colliton
On the flip side to reverse this trend the Hawks need to play well in both weekend games not just one – if you follow the pattern it could be that they give a good effort vs the good team (CAR) but come up just short and losing (maybe get a point) and then have less of an effort vs the lousy team (LAK) and lose
That’s what bad teams do but if (and it’s a huge if) they can string two good games together and get 4 points it could turn their season around
I’ll be looking for the line combos – if JC continues to be stubborn and won’t break up 20-64-8 to help other lines and doesn’t put 17 back at centre with 12 I don’t like the chances for a turnaround
At present JC is not getting anything close to max performance from his line up – that’s his job, he’s the coach – the buck stops there
Lines are the same and we do not get 2 pts, then you would have to think its 100% the lines are what we have been saying here for awhile. What they were before or 20 with 19.
92 19 88
12 17 65
or
20 19 8
12 17 92
65 77 88
91 22 64
Anybody think Collitan is doing the 12 19 and 17 88 because he knows they o not work well together, to establish a work ethic a effort ethic. Then when the players play full effort, like the last 2 games, pull the trigger on ideal lines. Get that established first. Doesnt make sense to force 12 19 and other lines pairs when they do not work.
Thats a thing we always had before any of 10 81 19 88 worked, this 12 17 19 88 doesnt like that. That doesnt help things.
Mo it comes down to being successful and start winning games. If the team starts winning you can’t argue with success. If losing continues, 2nd guessing runs wild and changes may be coming.
Same with pp, if what they are doing was bringing results, can’t argue with it, but watching them do same things without results is frustrating.
Crawford starting and Smith in for Cagguila, no Perlini or Gilbert. Hear the grumblings starting already.
This team needs wins, time is now not tomorrow. Not very optimistic from what I’ve been watching.
I would have preferred to see Perlini in – I didn’t think he was Ok his last time in
I don’t want the Hawks to trade him and then fire JC at some later date and find out too late that Perlini could have been a productive player for another coach – say like Marc Crawford
12 19 88
92 64 8
20 77 65
15 22 17
Warmup lines
Wow – 17 on the 4th line
JC’s love for 64 knows no bounds
They better win or the vitriol will be flying
After tomorrow 4 game road trip and 7 of next 9 on road, if a coaching change coming happen there i would think.
I understand the 17 and LW RW thing, but not having 12 19 on same line. Having 64 at center he wants and doing 77 at center, so 17 LW RW.
15 17 on 4th for good size, checking line.
What doesnt help us now is not having 5 or 44. We need both guys.
I do really like Saader and Dach on a line. This could be sweet.
20 77 65
Wrap maybe if Strome responds to demotion positively and plays hard the door is there to swap him Kampf. Don’t mind after last couple of games sending him a little message if the way back is waiting for him.
I am going with were going to win the CAR game.
That 20 77 65 have a really good game.
Decent overall, other the 5 sec PP.
Keep on hustling so we can play.
Kempny with two goals last night. Joki down to 15 minutes last night (including 1 minute on the PK) but Sabres still going strong. They might have made an intriguing pair.
Pretty even, PP, keep pushing threw this.
Have to go back to the lines from before now. Coach has no choice.
77/92 19 88
12 17 65/77
20 64 8
91 22 91/65
Mo if only Kampf would do his part score a hattrick every game be just the incentive or the guys getting millions to put the puck in the net , to get the other goal needed. Damn him
Yo Mo ,you should keep your predictions in a sock under your pillow .
2015, I got the EDM game right, not this CAR game. Your right, I ll keep it to a split.