Report: Corey Crawford Possibly Done For The Year?
According to a report from Mark Lazerus of the Chicago Sun-Times, “three sources told the Sun-Times that Crawford is dealing with vertigo-like symptoms, for the second time in his career. And there is a growing concern within the organization that Crawford could miss the rest of the season, as Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman reported on Tuesday.”
Lazerus adds that Crawford missed four weeks late the 2015-16 season reportedly because he was dealing with vertigo symptoms.
Come on Stan! Go after a good young goalie like Tristan Jarry in PIT
Hopefully he’s going to be ok, vertigo is serious and can take awhile to treat.
Sorry to hear this. Crow was our savior this year. Best to let him take all the time he needs to recover and get well. To me, and probably many of you out there, without a top notch goalie this season is done, especially with the hot and cold brand of hockey this team is playing as they adjust to the new faces and chemistries. Would be nice to find someone who steps in and excels, but not counting on it.
As someone that deals with vertigo, I hate to hear this for Crow.
Is vertigo code word for rehab? Because he’s in his second stint of alcohol rehab. Covering up just like when Kane went. He was golfing in Florida last week. Stop with the bs.
Bald allegations should not be made. Irrespective of Crawford’s injury or otherwise, the Hawks’ present two goalies aren’t going to cut it consistently for the duration of the season. We ve seen enough of a sample size of both of them. Pockets of solid play, and pockets of abysmal play. They re nowhere near, not even close, Emery, Rantaa or Darling.
Absent Crawford, Quick is the best goalie in the West, hands down. This is likely an unsolvable issue for the remainder of this season.
Agree with Iceman. This is an unsolvable issue right now. The boat is leaking with too many holes.
Stan will not be able to trade his way into contention without getting fleeced.
Let Q ride Forsberg and Glass, demand more of the core !
Whatever it is, let’s wish HIM the best.
Crow was obviously the team MVP in the first half of the season. Every player on the rink is out there for him. We need to find a way to win while Crow makes a full recovery.
If able to pry say a Cam Ward from Canes for a reasonable return, existing ltir space would cover hit as is. Maybe the reason for moving Panik. That would give them a chance and leave Crawfords space intact for now, for a possible return or if not acquire some assets at deadline for a run if it looks promising then.
Sad Now the only hope to keep hawks in a game is gone. ! I give Bowman my vote to do what needs to be done to putting a team next year that has a future and exciting possibilities of a future ! This will make it easy to make tuff decisions to be sellers !!!!!!!!!!!!!
“demand more of the core !” – Craig Nigrelli …Yes. Even without considering Crawford.
…well, this gives the organ-EYE-zation an excuse for sucking this year.
Mark Daniels, I really hope you don’t get all your news from fake news sites like The Heckler…mind you that’s the ONLY site or source that has said he’s been golfing. Read the article, only takes about 3 lines before you realize it’s a made up story…
Crow get better healthy again.
Now without 81 16 4 and 50 it will be hard to make playoffs even though we can.
Like noon an said the other day might be better to get a better prospect in draft for the long term/5 coming yrs. if something like this was going to happen this is prob the bet time it could in a transistion yr. Need The Crow for the 5 coming yrs when the team is deeper and better.
He was ok after it happened before so pray he is again long term wise.
I agree with Tony, give him all the time he needs. While Crawford has always had his critics, I’ll guess that everyone misses him now.
Mark Daniels, your a class act and I bet your mom is proud of your ignorance. To pass judgement on a situation that you know nothing about is plain out wrong. You are basing your ignorant claim on a satire article from the Heckler which was actually making fun of Trump and if you actually read the complete story you would know this. Corey dealt with this same issue before and it was able to be treated. It’s caused by many things like stress etc. So unless your a medical Dr keep your conspiracy theories to yourself. Get well soon Corey
Mark Daniels, you should be ashamed of yourself…
Yes let Crawford do what he needs to help himself. I am not advocating making moves just saying what the Panik and Franson moves might be leading too. Bowman may not be throwing in the towel yet.
This team wasn’t going to go very far even with a healthy Crawford. Stan needs to start begging some of these guys to waive their NMC’s clauses, and then pray he finds a trading partner dumb enough to take on a contract like Seabrook’s without having to eat 3/4 of it, or having to throw in someone like Debrincat to go along with it. Time to start stockpiling up on draft picks, and not ones like all the undersized prospects we’ve got now. Does Bowman not pay attention to what’s going on around the league? This team, including it’s prospects, have hardly any size at all, and they play with almost zero physicality, and we wonder why they’re always getting knocked off the puck and losing board battles. The league is flying by Stan and Q. Oh well, three Cups, right?
Well said to those who set Daniels straight-whatever the cause 50 has earned our patience and respect.
Mo, Corey is 33 it’s hard to see him being a huge contributor in a few years-they really need to find/draft and or develop a new goalie in the next two years. They are out there.
(That said he was playing his best hockey, possibly of his career. but goalies have troubles in their mid-30s–not like the old days of Bower and Worsley)
LOL. I don’t read the Heckler. U people are naive. He was also in a snow mobile accident. Drunk while driving it. Crashed it. Just because YOU don’t hear it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. You’re all little fan boy pawns. Enjoy.
Goalies are like pitchers in baseball, hardest position to draft and develop, and you have to wait the longest for them to reach the pros. That is why few teams invest high draft picks in goalies, and even the top ones go further and further down in the draft.
Having said that….the Hawks have not invested in the goalie position. They signed Raanta as a free agent, and Darling they took a flyer on after he played in six other leagues. Both of those worked out great. But they drafted Crawford in the 2nd round back around 2003 and since then the only goalies they have taken in the draft have been 6th or 7th round flyers on guys like the Russian and the Danish guy.
It is becoming more popular to try and trade for good backup goalies that seem to be up and coming. Carolina did this with Darling and San Jose did this with Martin Jones, Toronto did this with Anderson, and Edmonton did this with Talbot. That way you normally lose like a 2nd round pick but you know the guy is good enough to play in the NHL, so it eliminates some of the uncertainty.
Short of spending an actual higher draft pick on a goalie, I think a trade for a high profile backup is the best shortcut to finding a new starter. But I don’t think the Hawks make that move now. I think they ride this out and use the injury as an excuse to sell at the deadline, even though they are not technically ‘rebuilding.’ It couldn’t come at a better time, actually, as the deadline is not too far away, and as someone mentioned, it is unlikely even with Crow this team gets out of the first round of the playoffs if they were even able to make it.
Hey Jack, er Mark Daniels, what is your source on this Crawford stuff then?
“IF” Crow was in Fla. playing golf so what????
So, I guess we keep him here in a dark room playing soft soothing mellow tones…??
Might help in his recovery…
I know I’d use any excuse to be in Fla. right now!!
You aren’t following Mr Jack Daniels Joey. He claims everywhere Crow goes he hurts himself because he is drunk all the time. Mr Daniels also puts Jack Daniels in his cereal and gets his news from the National Enquirer magazine because he is so badass. And if we don’t believe him and take him at his word it is because we are blinded fanboys.
In reality it wouldn’t take much to cut and paste a link to his source here but my guess is he won’t do that because most of his news comes from his mom.
No one is saying Crow doesn’t like to party,…. he fell down some stairs at that concert and hurt himself last year or two years ago and had to go on the DL. But that doesn’t make some of the more sensationalist accusations about him true especially when Jack Daniels is the only source of the informaton.
Noon I thought goalies were better at older age per say like Tim Thomas. That’s why I didn’t ever consider the Crows age for prime yrs or really good ones after. Yeah we need another good one for future which should be after these coming yrs not now. Could be a shitty good thing getting another gem in draft. Going with the better team and pretty goalie for coming yrs and future model again like with Nemo.
Watch the team take off and play really good now. Sort of feel like getting a top5/10 pick we could trade up to 8th you would have to really suck to be a top7 pick with the teams that are in that area rec. wise. I would like to add another top pair future defenseman though because of this and how we came to our record. Then we will have 2 dang good Dman going forward with the other good FW. Take advantage of a shitty situation so we get rewarded for it later.
What the players (in any sport) do in their private time is no one’s business; throwing stuff out like uninformed/mean-spirited media (i.e. two people on AM670, “sources” please give me a break) did a couple of years ago RE: Kane and then Sharp grossly unfair, has nothing to do with the player’s job whatsoever, and borders on defamatory. Addison Russell same thing in the summer, who cares that he is getting divorced?
Modern technology has changed the landscape for the worse in numerous ways, including re: sports. I saw Hawks’ players out back in the day doing stuff, nobody’s business. They were having a good time. So be it. Part of life experience.
P.S. Last I checked, dilly dallying around on your spouse and enjoying one to many cocktails are not against the law. Just like the Tiger Woods situation, that was his own private business perpetually chasing skirt. As a related aside, once it became public, his career came crashing down. So let’s leave the Hawks’ and all other players’ private lives alone, untouched.
Iceman,
Was Bobby Hull just “having a good time” getting hammered and beating the crap out of his wives?
Good stuff iceman. People need to mind their – – – – – – selves.
Beating up your spouse –as you state Hull did — is completely, 180 degree different than cheating on your spouse and having a drinking problem; there are hundreds of thousands of people, unfortunately, that go thru these situations which are not criminal in nature and are never made public. People that get charged and plead or are found guilty of crimes like you allege against Hull should be prosecuted to the fullest degree, agree 1000%. I have two young daughters, am completely sympathetic to such issues.
All this being said, absent criminal charges and/or convictions, what the athletes do in their private time is wholly none of our business. Who knows and who cares what players of yesteryear did; the same holds true of today’s athletes.
Who really gives a shit what’s wrong. Nobody should judge other people’s faults or problems. Unless your ready yourself to open your closet. Everyone has faults so regardless stop attacking like the enquirer news and be more considerate to all. Rather than bash a person demons. Mark giangreco did it to Payton and Kane. Turned out his top sources were bulshit! Craw gets it done and support is better
Any chance Nalimov could join the team? I remember in that post aways back Tab was saying he was having a pretty good season before being released from his KHL team? something like .940 save percentage?
Just saw an interview with Kevin Stevens on Hockey Central at Noon-it was very heartwarming detailing his path thru addiction and current recovery–this is when it should be talked about, when a player wants it to be discussed, when ready-not on possible assumptions and hearsay made up by fans that potentially have no merit.
Nalimov was thought to be a year and half away from signing, beliveve he is with another KHL team now. Don’t look like any of the Russians will be signed for next year.
Regardless of what is wrong or how Crow got there, the bottom line is that this team as currently situated is grossly underachieving. You may be able to push the veterans and squeak into the playoffs however the Hawks probability of getting to the playoffs greatly decreases without Crow and one round and done serve no purpose.
There has to be a serious discussion of becoming a seller and rebuilding this team for another playoff run while Crow, Kane and Toews are still viable. Saad, Hartman, Arty and the D-men may get you some return in young talent to make a cup run in 2 years. It will have to be an aggressive rebuild because the window on those 3 is closing.
Lehner and Kane perfect rentals.
Best of luck to Crow. The most underrated goalie in hockey. Time to be sellers and build for the future. This team doesn’t have the talent anymore to win a Cup. It will be tough to move the veterans in the salary cap world but an attempt should be made. I would start with Keith and Toews. Those two guys should bring some high draft picks and young up and coming talent. I would love to unload Seabrook but nobody will take him. Send Saad packing as well.
Damn, say it an’t Crow! The Hawks will not make the playoffs with a Glass/Forsberg goalie tandem. SB should take a serious look at selling off players and looking to increase their draft stock and increasing their non-nhl talent.
Wouldn’t be too critical of Mark, if I were you guys. Others have heard the same whispers.
@ HHNL
This Hawks team window is shut or just about to shut. Q has this year and next year on his deal I tend to believe the window starts and ends with him. Can this team have a dead cat bounce with a new coach; absolutely. So that’s certainly on the table but that’s far from a guarantee.
I’m just frustrated because last year SB got up and spoke about last year being “unacceptable” and 45 games in the Hawks are in last place and this roster looks flawed. The further removed the Hawks has been without Scotty Bowman the less like a contender this team has appeared. Perhaps Scotty was WAY more of a factor then it appeared. Helping prop up his son into the business?
“I follow the league from the games here,” Bowman said before watching the Canadiens lose 3-1 to the Lightning. “I don’t have much to do with Chicago. There’s not many trades now. Sometimes in the summer, they’ll ask me about a player I saw during the season. The one team I know the most about is Tampa because I watch them all the time.”
I’m sure it merely a coincidence that TAMPA now looks amazing that Scotty doesn’t talk with his star player who happens to be the GM. Im sure he just sits and watches and doesnt speak to any of the Tampa guys. One Goal huh? Meh!
http://montrealgazette.com/sports/hockey/nhl/hockey-inside-out/stu-cowan-scotty-bowman-enjoying-life-in-florida-sunshine-at-age-84
The main thing is no trades of higher draft picks or prospects to get you into the playoffs this year. We already don’t have a 2nd or 4th round pick in this year’s draft. Let things stand unless you can make a trade for draft picks or young prospects and build this team again. Without Crow our chances are very limited for a long playoff run.
In the last 12 games of the season the Blackhawks have;
St. Louis three times
Winnipeg three times
Colorado two times
San Jose
Vancouver
Islanders
Boston (I think)
They’ve got to be in the hunt prior to this, and then perform at a very high level. It is gonna be a tough row to hoe boys and girls.
Indian I think the key is in the middle 29 games we started 5-0 and are still around plus 5 half way through. I thought we would have Crow for these or most of these 29 games. Without the Crow it’s tuff. We can make playoffs if we do good in the rest of these 29 games. We have around 12 left. Otherwise if we’re not 11 over after game 57 were screwed by not being in a good position. So what I said all along can’t be judged without the Crow. We would need be 9-4ish in the games coming up that’s that.
If Crow were to have had a 12 wk rehab thing then it would be mid MAR return.
They are just that Whispers/Rumors unless he has facts its ignorant as a die hard life long hawks fan to make accusations that aren’t backed up with facts. He’s human if he does have a problem that’s his business and I’m sure he’s handling it like a professional. People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. Period
I agree with some of you that the Hawks should be sellers. Even if they squeak into the playoffs they are not going to get far. Without Crow, forget it. You want to keep Kane, Schmaltz (going to be a star), Saad (yes), Ruutu, Oesterle, Forsling, Murphy, and a few others. Unless Toews can bring a big return, keep him. I have been saying for years that the Hawks need to get bigger, but they’re not.
Greatest needs: 2 pivots and goalie.
We seen this move before … Kane injury … LTIR … rejoins the team in the playoffs. Team goes on a run … Now is the time to put Crawford on LTIR and use his salary to add help on the Blue Line to make the playoffs … Once the playoffs begin, Crawford rejoins the team.
Mo the 8 games after allstar break their schedule in own division last 3 of year against Wild Preds and Stars plus 5 against Pacific : Flames twice Van, Ari and Veg a tough run. Next weeks games against the fast teams from east is good chance to get 13 in lineup if AA still out, wonder how a lines like this would look.
91 19 48
20 8 88
12 64 13
10 57 38
Bouma been a physical force and strong on pk but a little offense might help in couple of those games, and if Kane as normal double shifted on 4th line 10, 57 or 38 makes it a dangerous threat. Need 4 lines who can score.
Death knell for the Hawks.
To have a fighter’s chance to make and advance in the playoffs, the Hawks were going to need to pick up a difference maker at or before the TDL – NOT replace their MVP in the first half of the season.
I’m afraid this might be curtains.
Lets all quit on them and just post on here bad they are and feel sorry for ourselves, sounds like fun.
@ Southside
You made some good points and the window may be closing faster than anticipated. The boys do have lots of miles on them. However I try to be somewhat optimistic that another run at the cup can be made. Towes and Kane are 29 yrs old and Crow is 33. There are goalies like Rinne and King Henrik that are very solid performers at 35. Kane is not a physical player so here is to hoping that he does not have as much wear and tear as Toews. Take a look at pictures of Towes in 2010/2011 and he looked thicker than he does now. His just looks scrawny now and watching Toews get rag dolled is depressing. Maybe different training and diet could prolong his effectiveness.
Any rebuild will need SB at the top of his game. Hawks cannot afford any more screw ups, rentals or old and washed up Hawks. Ladd and Saad have been painful high profile acquisitions. I really enjoyed watching Shaw and Versteeg but I do not want to see either back in Chicago. SB has gone to the old Hawk well too often. Maybe what this team and organization need is an old fashion ass kicking by an 84 year old HoFer. I also think Toews can learn a lot from Yzerman on how to command a locker room and get most out of his team.
Elliotte Friedman reporting Scotty Bowman said Crawford dealing with post concussion symptoms not vertigo
Let’s start some talk about who is out there that might be up for grabs come deadline time. I’ll admit I’m not in the know enough to suggest names that could be able to give some scoring punch and put the team up a notch, but I’m betting some of you might have some names. These would need to be realistic names that are on their way out with their prospective clubs either due to salary, team status, etc. So, in other words, let’s not suggest that the Blackhawks go and get Connor McDavid.
Even though it might be surprising how some deals could work, the Blackhawks do have a number of people that could be packaged. Even though we’ve all bitched about the defense, there’s a bit of a logjam there with guys. There are also a small number of forwards who continue to vie for the last spots (Jurco, Hayden, some Rockford guys). Anyone got some realistic and creative ideas? You gotta figure Bowman is going to do something ……
OK here’s some food for thought, and reasons for you all to call me crazy. When 15 comes back, I suggest giving the kids more ice time and dropping 19 and 20 down a couple of notches.
91 64 12
38 8 88
20 19 48
57 15 10/40
Cause truth is: this team will have a hell of a time making the playoffs without Crawford in net. So let’s shake it up and see if the boys can beat the odds.
Ian the bottom line with everyone is the people who were 50/50 on playoffs and faith in team from the start would all say done, then say even with no and if not 1 round. Everyone who was positive with this many rookies and new guys to league not just team knew it would take awhile then be a good team and better each yr with the upside. Something like this just secures it for them and for the positive people now its going to be hard to make playoffs. Nothing has really changed from everyones first opinions right from the start.
It really doesnt matter what people say noone is going to get the other side to agree or think the same as them. Which is fine I guess. We knew this was a transition yr whether we won Cup or didnt make playoffs with this many rookies and new league guys.
In those 12 games the rest of the 29 I thought we would do really good in and with Crow. Only 4 of 12 are top teams even though CAL and DAL are good, I didnt think DAL would do as god as they have and thought CAL would do better, switch them then. So with most of roster we could do very well in these 12. Though thing crazy thing is we played really good against WIN then not beat DET (really it was only 5 of 13 top teams).
Still think these 12 left of these 29 are the key. Yea we could still make playoffs not doing good weher I thought and do good against the top teams. It just seemed like the good section of the sch. of the 82 games. One thing that could help is with parity and as may good teams there are going to beat each other back and forth so there will be a lot of teams close til game 82.
Thing to is we are in last place the days we were/are thats in hardest division which means hardest sch. We are in any other division we would be 3 4 or 5th place prob.
I like these lines I saw other day with Arty back. Better depth then we had all yr to date.
20/19/48
38/8/88
91/15/12
57/64/17-10
I do want a high draft pick (5-10) though if were not looking good at that time. I want whats best for 5 coming yrs roster wise so we can win another Cup. We will win again if we assemble right pieces.
Indian we know 91 is there in the summer.
Mo Calgary rolling think they are 2nd in Pacific now could depend on day. Big Indian I think the way it works is at end of season the cap is not effect. Whàt is in effect then is your flat allowed to be 10% over cap including any bonus overages and ltir salaries. So right now at 77.4 m hit today plus 2.8m room right now plus a possible 1.6 m overages is 81.8 m. So if you use2.8m svailable room for a goalie, that leaves only $700,000 left of the 10% over cap your allowed in playoffs, so Crawfords ltir space may not be if any use whether he came back for playoffs or not unless you had a way to shed some at seasons end, which highly unlikely would mean moving somebody with cap value in a fire sale. Or you go with goalies as is and add a skater with room you have.
Bottom line is putting Crawford on ltir only gives $700,00 more cap space come playoff time and daily remaining not in play as full cap hit used to calculate your total in playoffs and off season.
Didnt see CAL was that high last I saw they plus 4 they must have been winning some games and LA losing then. Those next 12 think tell the tale.
Again, 91 is not available to the Hawks-that would be cap hell with 3 guys making 31-34 million. (4 making 40)
And they aren’t going to take on a JT, to replace a younger, better JT./or take on a slower vet. to help their porous D.
@ IAN
Interesting how Scotty is the one that floats out the injury as a concussion after the club has been saying Vertigo. This club is all out of sorts this season top to bottom.