Report: Kirby Dach Suffered Wrist Fracture
TSN’s Bob McKenzie is reporting that Kirby Dach’s wrist is fractured. Dach was injured in Canada’s exhibition warm-up game against Russia before the World Juniors.
McKenzie offered addition insight into a potential timeline for Dach’s return.
A basic fracture generally results in a 4 to 6 week or 6 to 8 week absence but if surgery is required it could be considerably longer than that. But no decision on that has been made yet.
— Bob McKenzie (@TSNBobMcKenzie) December 24, 2020
The 2021 regular season is scheduled to begin three weeks from the day Dach was injured.
Just wanted to come out and say first that anyone who thinks it was an unnecessary and meaningless tournament that he shouldn’t have been at is an idiot. The kid begged his agent to get the Hawks to let him go, he wanted to be there so bad once they heard the NHL would be delayed. That’s one of the main reasons coach Tourigney named him captain because of how badly he wanted to play and represent his country. The Blackhawks were doing right by their player by letting him go play in a tournament that all kids dream of playing in
It was a freak accident that could’ve happened to anyone and in any game. It’s no ones fault that he got injure, poop happens and unfortunately Hawks fans have gotten a lot of that after Reichel, Commesso, and Vlasic were all kept from playing.
@ 200: Excellent post.
It was not a mistake in letting Dach go. Others held back but they do not have the same connections/reasons Dach had as above stated.
Play the kids.
VS Detroit
Kurschev Toews Kubalik
DCat Strome Kane
Suter C Morrision Janmark
Hagel/Barrett Wallmark Chalupa
this is the perfect scenario where the agent charges through the door, overwhelms bowman with unreasonable contract demands, bowman caves, and the salary cap is shit all over once again.
give strome peanuts for one year or let him tell his story walking. this isn’t the kind of guy who is a difference maker on a cup contending team. he is not someone who will be on the roster if/when the hawks return to glory. a big decision that bowman cannot blame being pressured by mc donough to make. does he put on big boy pants or crap the bed and give up the ridiculous contract?
thanks @jordyhawk
twitter comments compelled me to write that as well as the second city comments and articles.
Sucks for everybody – us fans, the team and Dach himself not to mention the Canadian team
What bad luck – a harmless looking play – it’s even hard to imagine how a fracture could have happened with the contact that was made
On the heels of the Nylander news a bad day for Hawks fans – let’s hope others step up while the Dachter is out
4 to 6 weeks is late Jan. early Feb. Or 6 to 8 mid to late Feb., still could play quite a few games this year if no surgery, which hopefully not needed.
200 ft. Good points in your post.
@200: Second City, Twitter – meh, the hell with them. As Tywin Lannister famously said “the lion doesn’t concern itself with the opinions of the sheep.”
My G-D you can’t put players in a bubble except for Covid. That’s Hockey! That’s sports! That being said it was a freak accident. Hey I broke my wrist slipping on the ice while taking out the garbage.
Unfortunately Strome,s best buddies are Debrincat and Kane so they are going to sign him.I would rather see Barratt,Kurashev,or Pirri play Center.
The timetable for Dach’s recovery/rehab is a secondary concern. The primary concern is that he doesn’t lose any dexterity in his wrist/hand/fingers – AND – there isn’t any medical reason to suggest the injury could be chronic or recurring. As long as he returns to 100% the time he misses is not good but not devastating.
WJCs are as important to the Stanley Cup to Canadian kids. I am disappointed he will be delayed playing for the Hawks bit I am heart broken that he won’t get the chance to lead his country to a gold medal. That would have been huge for his development.
200foot – nice post.
To me this doesn’t give Strome any added leverage. This is not the contract he is going to cash-in on and he really needs to prove he is a top 6 player to ultimately get paid. On another topic, after seeing the Cirelli contract terms it is unfortunate how many dollars were wasted in the Dcat deal.
Terrible about Dach. This is going to be a tough season anyway so let’s hope Dach doesn’t get rushed back into the lineup. Let him heal completely.
MS, $ not wasted but return not met. DC has as many goals in 1 season that Cirelli has career. Do think 5mol should have been the amount not 6. You do pay for points in this league. Also the state of NHL and timing has diminished all contracts as we all stated before.
Let’s play the kids and get the Power.
Off Topic for a moment,that COVID Schedule is interesting.I imagine these teams are going to get real tired of playing each other in division exclusively.There is a 2 week stretch in March where we play the Bolts 5 times out of 9 games.
Completely agree MS. Just because Dach goes down doesn’t mean Strome should get paid, if he gets anything more than a prove it deal it’s a horrid contract. Let Kurashev try playing second line center if Strome holds out for more money. Hopefully he can show out a be a second line center of the future to play behind Dach in like 3 or so years.
Number one priority should be ensuring Dach has a full and complete recovery, DO NOT rush him back. Would’ve loved to see Dach breakout like most people thought he would, which he still very well could when he returns. I still think he’ll show out when he returns and take a big step in production and overall play.
Could be a blessing in disguise as I don’t see this team being more than the second to last team in front of the wings within the division. Without Dach and if Strome holds out they’ll be worse. We might end up with another high lottery pick. Could be the perfect storm to add another top 5-10 pick especially with the abundance of defenseman upcoming in the draft.
Totally disagree, once you sign that NHL contract that’s where your loyalty should be. That’s the reason teams have rules about extracurricular activities like motorcycles, skiing and skydiving.
Agree with 200 foot – I was pleased that Hawks were allowing Dach to play at the WJC as was looking forward to him having a great tournament which would have accelerated his deveoplment
The hit that he got injured on could have happened in practice just as easily – that’s life
Strome should be more eager to sign a low cost deal because this is his chance to play 2C which he likely wouldn’t have had if Dach were playing
If he can’t see that opportunity in front of him he’s either blind or being lead astray
Earl, all I will say is you should be in the camp that the NHL shouldn’t be in the olympics. If you think they should be able too then that’s stupid. But if your consistent and don’t think NHL players should play in the olympics then I respect your opinion.
I could be wrong nut I have a funny feeling that Debrincat`s Contract ( and the timing of it ) may have been a MacDonough initiative. If so, it may have been another of the reasons for his departure, I`m not sure. Debrincat had no arbitration rights that year . The Stats were in Debrincat`s favor but Management could have easily shown more patience in getting that deal done if only because ( even if Debrincat had another big year ) he wasn`t going to get any more than he got. He got the contract he wanted without showing up for his third year of his original deal. A good negotiator has patience and little was shown here considering all the dynamics. The third year of this new contract is at $9 million. Think about that. Is Debrincat a 9 mil dollar player in this league. His next contract after this one now has to START at this level as well. This is another albatross contract for the Hawks. Not well played at all.
This why these teams should not send these kids .
Strome’s contract and Dach’s health are not connected at all. Strome has no leverage. He is this year’s Perlini. If he sits home, he loses period.
Strome loves playing in Chicago. I’m not sure Colliton and the Hawks brass love him. Unlike Dach, who they adore.
The Hawks are rebuilding with or without Strome. I was told (albeit months ago) that he better take his qualifying offer and he would be wise not to ask for anything over $1 million. So now it’s a game of chicken.
Dach is showing us what kind of player he is ….not very durable .
An open ice hit like that , as many players know can and will shorten a players career . Dach is a big boy …he was stopped in his tracks by the apposing player .
Dach should have lowered his shoulder and drilled the player .
He made body contact like he was playing in a team scrimmage ….This is a totally unnecessary injury to a player who has signed a professional contract and has no business playing in this tournament .
Between Barrett, Kurashev, Hagle, Suter, Mitchell, Regula, Entwistle, Teply, Reichel, Kaiser, Beaudin, Boqvist, Kalynuk, etc., the Hawks have plenty of players to look at and review. No need to rush Dach back. We know the great path he is on already. At best, the Hawks would finish 5th anyway. So, look at the kids, but keep Zadorov and Seeler to protect them. Hot tempers will develop after the Hawks have played the same team too many times like back in the 60’s, I’d guess roughhousing will resume dramatically about one-third of the way into this season.
In response to Hawks 2015, I think the Hawks trainers and general staff are revealing their true colors. A big, skilled (but gentle) guy like Dach should have been made to pump iron and punch heavy bags in the offseason whenever he wasn’t practicing winning faceoffs, etc. Had that been the case “the other guy” gets the worst of any confrontation involving Dach.
Dach’s injury dramatically changes the Blackhawks lines. 1. Toews 2. Strome 3. Suter/Perri 4. Kempt My guess is Dach is done for this shorten season for there’s no reason risk a recurrence of the wrist injury. Sadly, the Blackhawks will be a lottery team.
I see Dach returning much stronger, just as he did at the end of last season before the playoffs. The injury is bad, but the silver lining is the opportunity the allow the man muscles to come in.
That hit was a nothing more than a freak accident that he got injured on it. Him getting injured doesn’t show he’s any weaker, he just came in at a weird angle and the russian player moved the puck and made a pivot that cause Dach to adjust to try and still somewhat play the body. And he had put on a good amount of muscle between the end of the season and the playoff bubble, and he probably put on more between that and the wjc.
Just because your stronger doesn’t mean freak injuries like that won’t happen and I think it’s pretty stupid to say that a 19 year old kid isn’t a durable player. Kinda too early to tell if he’ll be injury prone or not ya think?
Let’s give the team a chance to be competitive. Get Fluery with a pick. If they give us their four let them eat 3.5. Give us one of their #2 we’ll pay 5mil. Their #1 we’ll eat it all.
My thinking the two years gives us time for our young keepers to develop. Maybe The Flower and Subban want to show the Knights they messed up and have an extra chip on their shoulder. I would go with Lankinen as back up with a minimum of 60/40 split time. Condensed season.
Also Anthanasiou,
200 first post. What he said.
Be ok if not surgery.
I have been concerned for over a year that Dach is fragile. I really question if he’s going to be the type of model that spends a lot time on IR. Of course this was a freak injury.
Going to be a brutal season in Chicago.
This is what I thought when they went to division playoffs first two rounds every yr its going to get old fast. If they want to have the divisions for who makes playoffs fine but then at least do the normal 1/8 2/7 3/6/4/5 and reseed.
You save enough on gas during the 82 games. For playoffs every round should be original. 2 2 1 1 1 no matter the travel.
TIM W.
December 24, 2020 at 4:23 pm
Off Topic for a moment,that COVID Schedule is interesting.I imagine these teams are going to get real tired of playing each other in division exclusively.There is a 2 week stretch in March where we play the Bolts 5 times out of 9 games.
I’m not sure if he is fragile, probably not. But he plays both north and south and moves across the ice a lot. No matter how big (e.g. Lindros, Primeau) you can’t be strong enough to protect your vulnerable spots-head, knee, hand etc.
What I hope is he is very aware on the ice-not playing scared just smart-Kane doesn’t get hit or hurt much and this is his doing and his innate ability to know where people are on the ice.
It seems he is a target-that seems to be a given.
Jordy, I like that.
“the lion doesn’t concern itself with the opinions of the sheep.”
Hopfully 77 can move good enough like 19 did so be ok for that kind of stuff long term career wise.
Tim, the good thing is eventually were going to see Barratt Kurachev no matter what because they are going to be good.
TIM W.
December 24, 2020 at 1:05 pm
Unfortunately Strome,s best buddies are Debrincat and Kane so they are going to sign him.I would rather see Barratt,Kurashev,or Pirri play Center.
This. I want everyone of our prospects to play world juniors for both these reasons.
ESPOFOREVER
December 24, 2020 at 1:59 pm
WJCs are as important to the Stanley Cup to Canadian kids. I am disappointed he will be delayed playing for the Hawks bit I am heart broken that he won’t get the chance to lead his country to a gold medal. That would have been huge for his development.
This.
200FOOTGAME
December 24, 2020 at 4:28 pm
Let Kurashev try playing second line center if Strome holds out for more money. Hopefully he can show out a be a second line center of the future to play behind Dach in like 3 or so years.
This.
This is what I meant in last thread about blessing.
200FOOTGAME
December 24, 2020 at 4:28 pm
Could be a blessing in disguise as I don’t see this team being more than the second to last team in front of the wings within the division. Without Dach and if Strome holds out they’ll be worse. We might end up with another high lottery pick. Could be the perfect storm to add another top 5-10 pick especially with the abundance of defenseman upcoming in the draft.
Scott Salmond ( team Canada ) that team Canada Has a Captain and nobody will replace Dach ….he ask to stay with the team but the Hawks said to go to Chicago for more exams…
Salmond also said that all the coaching staff thought he was the heart and soul of the team . Heartbreaking to see him leave after be refuse 2 years ago at 17 years old and last year Hawks didn’t let him participate and now a bad accident put him out .
Finaly Seabrook said To ( Vice President of team Canada )that Dach was devasted about the situation .
Hopefully Dach will be mentally stronger after that last baddluck because Seabrook will feed him positively ….and we know how he can do that ( remember when he went to talk to Toews in the playoff after he got the second or third penalty ….Seabrook went to calm him ..I don’t know what he said to the Captain but it works.
I feel the same way The coaches feel for the kid. ..he will move on but it’s not easy at his age ..I think he will become a Captain for the Hawks in a few years.
Hopefully the young Canadian players will regroup and win
Go team Canada .
Anyone see the picture of his wrist yet? UUUUUUGGGGGLLYYYYY
Just heal well/properly please. Longterm is what matters.
Sucks for world juniors tournament.
Liked watching Teuvo lead FIN and Buckaroo leading FIN to. Really wanted to see Dach do the same.
Looking for silver linings when an injury is involved is not something I can get behind unless the injury is the type that won’t be lingering or chronic. Kane’s broken collarbone comes to mind – it is a simple matter of healing the bone and it’s over and done with. It allowed the Hawks to enhance their lineup and Kane was back for the playoffs and they won the Cup.
Dach’s wrist fracture is not as cut and dry as a broken collarbone and there won’t be any silver lining if he doesn’t heal and come back 100% as if it never happened. Hopefully that happens and we can retroactively look back and find a silver lining but until that happens I see nothing positive about this at all.
That’s not to say I don’t want “the next man up” to seize the opportunity and do well – I do – but there would be shadow hanging over it.
When I find my team in times of trouble
A number one pick comes to me
Losing would be wisdom let it be
And in our hours of darkness
That 1st pick is right in front of me
Stan have some wisdom Pick Power D.
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200 ft. No I don’t want NHL players in the Olympics ever. The only tournament these guys should play in is the NHL playoffs. To me this is a professional playing in a minor league all star game, just doesn’t make sense. And I don’t appreciate the stupid comment, we have to be better than that.
ER, not looking for or wanting ever from our guys getting hurt. Just that the situation were in being a dynasty team in transistion to keep some of dynasty core and establish a young core and Then get the deepness players. We need elite players when we can get them and when were in these types of record seasons we have to get them/top 5 players.
Sure we can get some from 15-25 but lets do that and get our deserved top 5 players to. We really need both. Thats what I mean by my posts/not just saying with you to everyone. Not want any of our guys get hurt but on these kind of yrs its better now/when we need it then when were good again. Thats what I mena.
I want this yrs draft guy to be a Bolly kind of player. No matter what he actually is good at be the kind of key/important player Bolly is. We need that spot to/not just one or two spots.
So lets keep adding these key peices and better get our fair share of top 5 skill draft players just like we did with 19 88.
Its our turn bitches. Anyone that doesnt want to hear it I cant hear you I have three rings plugging my ears.
Maybe it’s “old fashion” to be patriotic and want to represent your country – but, I’m old fashion in that way so I’m in favor of players representing their countries in international tournaments. It engenders the feeling of being part of something bigger than self and that in and of itself is a good thing and should be encouraged and supported. It’s character building and life shaping.
I don’t know if “putting country first” is fashionable anymore in this day and age, but this old fashion guy thinks it should be.
ER, posts was for all not you just the first part. I am for world juniors. If it was a job that was just a job sure but these guys are playing/having fun like kids they not punching inout and paid by the hr. Theres a difference. Some need to get highest caphit because they can only cash in once others get more then needed and are playing for fun/team/country/pride.
I have no problem with Dach playing at Junior’s. Leadership is a developed skill and being named captain of team Canada would have aided and quickened his maturity as an NHL player. It was a freak injury that could of happened in practice.
My issue is Hawks medical staff mismanaging the Nylander’s situation. Did he not get an end of season physical. When did they determine that the knee cartilage was compromised. Who is overseeing there off season training. Did they not notice that his ability to skate away from contact was degraded? I have had a beef with the Hawks medical staff ever since they misdiagnosed Bickle. I am a medical dumb ass but all you have to do is to google to know that torn cartilage does not heal. Of course the knee will feel better with rest but that does not mean its ready to compete in the NHL. Determining that he needs surgey 3 weeks before the season is inexcusable. I am not that hung up concerning Nylander’s availability, in my opinion its just another example of Bowman inability to run an NHL organization. Medical staff report into the GM.
I hope they do not screw up Dach’s recovery.
Hawks sign C Carl Soderberg 1yr $1 million
Guess we have our 3rd line Center now in Soderberg.
Mo, I wasn’t responding directly to you – it was meant to address the overall issue of athletes under contract with a team putting themselves at risk of injury by playing in international tournaments. I appreciate the sentiment that the player should be loyal to his employer and not risk damaging their asset unnecessarily and I admit it’s a solid argument. However, there’s another side to that coin and my aim was to present the other side – one that I hold. Maybe to purest definition between the two sides of the argument can be defined as loyalty – where does your primary loyalty lie – your employer or your country? That isn’t meant to be hyperbolic or overly dramatic – it’s meant to define the essence of the choice.
My choice would be to my country.
Soderburg is someone we could flip at TDL. 6’3″ 210 Wallmark Soderburg Janmark we can call it the “How Swede It Is” line.
Koekkoek to Edm hope he does good there. Looked good for us.
I would have to guess that the Soderburg acquisition is a reaction to the Dach injury. A 35 year old center worth a point every other night.
If the Hawks are plan to flip him, that’s fine. If its just “another ” guy filling a roster spot and taking time from a young guys, that’s not fine.
I hope Bowman has a plan because I do not see Soderburg or the Mark brothers being part of a long term cup contenting team.
ER, yea I know just wanted you to know I wasnt to only you to. To everyone just saying stuff. Cheers man.
Better be doing the medical stuff the right way and have an overall plan to load young wave while gathering pecies along the way/for deadline deals whioch turn into prospects or players we keep when were ready again.
Not going to say more specifics on the medical stuff but I personally know a woman who personally knows Crows family/his dad and she told me his dad said they wanted him to come back/play before he was really ready/100% so there is some ? to that stuff.
Re: Soderberg
Low risk move that could pan out – he’s got skills to play top 6 – hopefully this doesn’t meant Dach is having surgery is out for most of the season
Thats what I thought at first then thought Strome doesnt do 1m then this player does.
My sources are saying this injury very possibly is a multiple fracture – one to a forearm bone and the other in the wrist/hand. The injured area is said to be rather unpleasant looking, as stated by someone above.
Opinion – The bigger bone tends to be a easier heal than the smaller wrist/hand bones. Either way, The forearm injury may be a blessing in that it will cause a greater need to immobilize the area and give a better opportunity for uninterrupted healing to the smaller bone. Personal experience has taught me the difficulty of healing wrist area fractures. Small bones can be big problems.
Certainly he will get great care and hopefully heed the warnings from the doctors about the wrist break. It’s his future he will be messing with should he get careless in the healing process. Remember – he is only 19. Hopefully he is unlike most of the rest of us and is willing to listen at that age.
Eraptor…i also go …. to my country ..with junior and with olympique.
Just search for Dach wrist pic and you can see the picture of his wrist.
Gruesome.
I prefer not submitting links myself.
Silent, I broke my arm at the wrist both bones and my wrist/area is not as straight as my other wrist. Couldnt throw the baseball as well after that to being right handed.
Have you seen our goal tenders? This year is a wash anyhow. Development is priority one and him playing in WJC is part of that. Play the kids, net a top five pick and on to 2022
HHNL
“My issue is Hawks medical staff mismanaging the Nylander’s situation.”
I have the very same question. How is it that this injury wasn’t diagnosed and dealt with long before now?
I also would like to know who on the scouting staff actually scouted Nylander prior to Bowman trading for him. Did they not recognize his lackadaisical and inconsistent style of play for what it is OR did they actually think those habits would somehow go away once he arrived in Chicago? Did they alert Bowman to these facts? Did Bowman simply ignore the scouting staff? The Buffalo media and blogs were all over it. Sometimes when there’s smoke there’s fire.
I have played hockey from an early age; youth hockey, high school, college and another 35 years of beer league hockey. In all my years of playing I have yet to encounter a player that exhibited the long term lackadaisical and inconsistent style of play that we get from Nylander suddenly snap out of it and give 100%, 200 foot game consistently. It just does not happen and I don’t expect it will happen with Nylander.
EbonyRaptor
Love your posts, they are always well thought out and respectful. Top notch!
I respect your opinion Wingate as I do everyone’s. But you or I have no clue what condition Nylander’s knee was in. We’re not privy to his ex rays or MRI or discussions they had among themselves, his agent, or Nylander himself. As far as talent goes, he’s a stud that was well scouted and comes from a pretty damn good bloodline. So Bowman took a chance on him and being around leaders like Toews, Kane and Seabs would payoff. Honestly my biggest problem with Bowman has been the contracts he handed out. We’ve lost a lot of good to great young players cause he didn’t have cap space and or had to get those shit contracts off his hands.
Hawk one, thats the thing as positive as I am about everything have to tell it how it is and get more top 5 draft picks quality players. So we have 3 Dachs not one. Maybe part of the ‘plan’ was to go without a top 5/10 goalie. Just having two top 5/10 goalies didnt work. And let the young wave develop and that includes the goalies.
Have some players in place with size and are good at D to get structure and protection to be aloowed to play and devlope while getting the manditory top 5 draft players we have to get or we wont be top 5 again.
Its nice that BOS got nback to top 5 so fast. Its because there core had some yuonger players in it then our dynasty core. Once that runs out they are done for longer time just like PIT.
Where CHI will be reloaded again by having these few off yrs now. Still in time for 19/88 to add 2 more Cups when they are 40 like DET did in 2008.
Big picture.
Given the two recent injuries if I were Stan I would reach out to some lesser desired players with two way contracts in what for those individuals could be a last shot at the nhl. Maybe they get lucky and someone becomes a little better than a fringe player, given depth as a big problem for the team its worth a shot.
About three weeks ago Skated into an opponent no where to go collision. Wrist jammed up similar situation. Ate in elbows absorption . Wasnt fun wrist was quite tingly. First thing I thought of seeing that Dach run in,not surprised about the wrist,my run in had me thinking. ….never fun to get an injury and eye opening to almost get one
Grey Hawk,
You are correct, we don’t know the extent of Nylander’s knee injury. It’s probable that the Hawks medical team had been working with him on a rehab plan. My mistake.
He may be a “Stud” talent wise but whatever talent there is hasn’t translated to on ice performance and that’s what counts. I am personally far less interested in his “blood lines”. I hope he’s on the path to being a star but I have my doubts. I think we might agree that his performance has not met expectations of a high first round draft choice. Based on what my eyes tell me of his performance so far his lackadaisical and inconsistent style of play is exactly what he is and is probably what we can expect going forward. It’s clear, at least so far that he’s not motivated enough to play a complete 200 foot game. I don’t expect him to be checking like a freight train (don’t ask a thoroughbred to pull a plow) but I do expect every forward to fore check and back check consistently. It seems that a number of fans blame the defensemen for the high shot counts that we have witnessed the past few seasons but in reality when forwards don’t play a 200 foot game it’s a huge problem. I am not pointing any fingers at any fan in particular, this is just an observation on my part. Hawks have precious few forwards that are willing to do the “non glamorous” work in the neutral zone thus allowing the opponent forwards to fly through the neutral zone unabated. Saad was one the best at being a complete forward, yet so many fans see only stats and don’t really understand that defensemen need forwards to do their job defensively as well as offensively. I hope that one day Nylander understands, and is willing to help execute “team defense” in addition as scoring goals. Only time will tell.
Wingate, I agree 100% with your assessment of Nylander. My comment was referring to what Bowman saw in him to trade for him.