Saad Injured, Kane Dominates As Blackhawks Down Jets

The last time the Blackhawks and Jets faced off on Oct. 12 it took overtime for the contest to be decided. This time, Chicago flew into Winnipeg after getting their tails whipped by the Avalanche at home.

In the background was the the awkward announcement a couple hours before the game that Brent Seabrook had not traveled with the team for medical reasons. So there was drama on top of coming off a bad performance.

How would the Hawks respond?

Chicago came out of the gates strong and Patrick Kane found Alex Nylander for the game’s first goal 59 seconds into the contest.

The goal is the first for Nylander in 16 games.

The Hawks carried the action for the opening eight or nine minutes be the Jets pushed back – hard. A late period power play saw the Jets get a number of terrific chances but Robin Lehner was on point.

At the end of the first Chicago had eight seconds of power play time left to kill but had a 1-0 lead. Winnipeg held a 16-12 shot advantage.

The Jets got another power play early in the second with Dennis Gilbert heading off but Chicago did a nice job of eliminating that advantage.

With 8:19 left in the second period with the Blackhawks on the power play Brandon Saad was hit hard into the boards and stayed down. He was helped off the ice and went straight to the room for medical attention. Saad has been playing the best hockey of his current tenure with the Hawks – perhaps of his career – so any significant loss of his services would be an enormous loss for the Blackhawks.

Winnipeg got some terrific looks in the final three minutes of the period but Lehner continued to be exceptional. At the end of two periods the Jets had a 30-15 shot advantage and the Hawks were down a significant forward. Chicago was credited with three (3) shots on net in the second period.

One issue for the Hawks was there was no depth from the offense. Only six of their forwards had recorded a shot on net in the first 40 minutes – not including Alex DeBrincat.

The bad news – at least immediately – came before the start of the third period.

Patrick Kane started the third period with Jonathan Toews and Dominik Kubalik and they immediately found the puck. Kane picked the puck off and found Kubalik who deposited his ninth of the season 37 seconds into the third.

DeBrincat was bumped back to the line with Dylan Strome with Saad out of the lineup.

Chicago continued to give up good looks at the net and finally the dam broke. Tucker Poolman rifled a shot home from the point to end Lehner’s shutout bid at 5:09 into the third.

Lehner had stopped 35 shots before the Poolman goal.

Soon after the goal Kirby Dach was hit in the ankle by a Keith shot and dropped. Thankfully, he didn’t miss a shift.

Chicago got a power play half-way through the third period. Erik Gustafsson unloaded a one-timer that found the back of the net and the Blackhawks’ lead was back to two.

Kane picked up his third primary assist on as many goals for Chicago. The goal is Gustafsson’s first in 14 games.

Nylander was playing a solid game and turned a good defensive effort into an assist. This time he set up Kane for the goal, Kane’s 19th of the season and his fourth point of the night.

This marked the seventh time in Kane’s career that he had one goal and three assists in a game and the 12th four-point game of his career. The goal came on Kane’s eighth shot of the night.

Lehner held the net and the final score was 4-1 in favor of the visitors.

The Hawks out-shot the Jets 17-7 in the third period.

Toews won 11 of 22 faceoffs and put four shots on net. David Kampf won seven of 10.

Gilbert and Olli Maatta led Chicago with four blocked shots each.

Lehner stopped 36 of 37 in the win.

The four-point game came on a big night for Kane in Blackhawks’ history.

65 thoughts on “Saad Injured, Kane Dominates As Blackhawks Down Jets

  • December 19, 2019 at 9:51 pm

    Man you could set a watch to this. Who was it Wrap, that said we play good for 3 games then like shit for 3 games, the whole time through here, sort of.

    last 6 games, were 2-4 but should be 3-3 with 3-0 lead in 3rd STL.
    VEG bad
    ARI bad
    STL good
    MIN good
    COL bad
    WIN good

    People could say MIN not good, but those are 6 good teams there.

  • December 19, 2019 at 9:52 pm

    Haan Saad, thats the style of players we need not out.

    Dunks go back to shooting puck into shinpads, not the ankles.

  • December 19, 2019 at 10:01 pm

    How to beat the Jets, unbelievably hot, goalie, solid special teams, win them on both sides and most of all give Kane the puck as much as possible. Hope Saad is ok, but looked like he’ll miss a little time. Either Sikura in or Cagguila activated. Rookies improving every game, mistakes will happen but that’s the reason they are called rookies. Solid 3rd period, the old win the first 5 mins, don’t lose the middle 10 and bring it home. 7 and 1 on 2nd half of back to back games. Bad news they play next 2 games on one days rest when the have rarely won this year.

  • December 19, 2019 at 10:06 pm

    Phil, was om to something with the home games. We wopped VEG and NAS and WIN, score wise or play wise depending on game, then got beat good by those teams/other at home? huh.

  • December 19, 2019 at 10:23 pm

    Colliton – Jack Adams Trophy finalist.

    Nylander – Art Ross Trophy finalist.

    Bowman – GM of the year finalist.

    No complaining for one night. We ll take it.

    P.S. Colorado gonna be real nervous waiting for the Hawks Saturday night.

  • December 19, 2019 at 10:32 pm

    One of the better efforts of the year especially when being pounded physically. Maybe playing with Kane will bring out Nylander’s skill – pretty goal and assist.

    I am concerned that teams are getting more physical knowing we can’t really play that way. If Saad is out I think we need to bring up someone from Rockford instead of Sikura. Don’t know much about Quenneville or Cramorossa but they both have good size and seem to be playing well in Rockford.

  • December 19, 2019 at 10:36 pm

    Most importantly,that is a spectacular night by 88 and 40.To his credit Kane saw an inexperienced defense and a group of big offensive forwards who dont backcheck real hard and he are them alive.Much better night by 92.After a slow start to the game 8 picked up his pace and play.The team played a much smarter and structurally sound game in the 3rd with the lead after being physically pushed around for about 30 minutes.These guys are really going to have to start protecting themselves as it looks like teams are taking advantage of them having no big tough forwards.Thought the only 2 that had a poor game were 12 and 17.

  • December 19, 2019 at 10:43 pm

    Just watched the end of the Avs-Canes game. Avs blow a lead by giving up 3 goals in the last 3 minutes. Girard was a -3, a little karma for his dirty hit on Dcat.

  • December 19, 2019 at 10:45 pm

    Still too many good chances for the Jets tonight, but to go up there and win is solid. Man, are we gonna miss Patrick Kane someday.

  • December 19, 2019 at 10:47 pm

    Hurricanes just dropped 3 goals in 2 minutes in the 3rd on the Avalanche beating them 3-1 in Colorado. Simple formula,big forwards took the body,knocked them off the puck,and went to the front of the net.Defense hops up in a play and takes advantage of cheating forwards.

  • December 19, 2019 at 11:14 pm

    Congrats to the Hawks tonight. And thank you for an effort that lasted 60 minutes. A well played game by most of the team, with 92 and 88 being seen at both ends of the night, making a difference. Dmen took some big hits to make plays – not something this team is noted for doing in recent past.

    And Robin was – well he was Robin. Wow!

    I’ll take that effort every game, regardless of outcome. No, we are not skilled enough to win a cup right now, but we can compete every game. If we want to.

    There’s gotta be a reason for tonight’s effort. We haven’t had that very often this year. Is the Seabrook saga behind it?

  • December 19, 2019 at 11:16 pm

    That’s being seen at both ends of the ice (not night). Sorry about that.

  • December 19, 2019 at 11:34 pm

    I did not see Kubalik’s slow start, but Foley referenced it as did Tim above. I thought he was dangerous all game. He was firing the puck. Maybe someone had a talk with him about his soft, low odds passes.

    Hopefully, this is what Nylander needed. Those of us who have been his detractors needed this to get rid of the pessimism, if only for one night. Good for Alex. Is it too soon to say “Joki who?” Just kidding.

    The first PP was a calamity. In addition to not even getting set up once, they lost Saad on that PP. The puck probably got cleared 5 times by the Jets on that pathetic effort. They were firing the puck on the second PP and it was good to see Gus get one. Even if he hadn’t, we couldn’t complain about the PP. There were shots and loose change. The question becomes, why don’t they do that more often?

    Dach got punished a couple times by bodies and pucks and still never flinched.

    The Hawks had an excellent third period, but would not have had the opportunity without Lehner.

    I would like to see a rule change where the goalie can only freeze the puck X number of times per game. Maybe 5 times. It would be exciting and create chances for goalies to make mistakes and also result in less faceoffs. Would also like to see a delay of game for too many icings. Maybe 4 per period or something.

    Watched the NBCSN feed last night and found their brief discussion with Eddie about whether Crow would waive his NMC to go to a contender, given his contract status to be interesting. Eddie said it would be worth it for other GMs to make the call to the Hawks to inquire.

    Looking forward to hearing “the rest of the story” on Seabs.

    Is it possible the Hawks can be competitive with the Avs on Saturday? Let’s play the game and find out. Best guess is no. They always need superlative goal tending to compete.

  • December 19, 2019 at 11:36 pm

    With Saad out at least 2 weeks it might be a good idea to get a bigger body up.Wedin,Quenville,or someone with an ability to take the body and go to the front of the net.If nothing else just to remain competitive and take some pressure off the skill guys.

  • December 19, 2019 at 11:45 pm

    Robs.I think pride has to factor into Saturday night.If you dont get together and play the game of your life after the way that you have been embarrassed by them,I dont know what else would.Hopefully they get some help from their Coach as far as putting together an actual strategy that combats the Avalanche strengths.

  • December 20, 2019 at 12:39 am

    With Saad likely out I wonder how the lines will be set for the Colorado game?

  • December 20, 2019 at 6:14 am

    Big Indian, maybe not as soon as tomorrow, but wouldn’t doubt Cagguila gets activated and plays with Toews and Kubalik.

  • December 20, 2019 at 8:01 am

    Didnt COL try to take out and did sometimes, one of our good to better players with dirty hits. When we were the dynasty team and they sucked.

    I am not saying lets dirty hit them, but that should be pulled back up in the ‘hey remember when yuo did these things’ its karma payback time.

    I forget who it was and which of our guys that got hurt. I think we had 2 or more guys get hurt with cheap hits from them.

  • December 20, 2019 at 8:02 am

    Sharps shoulder? one of them.

  • December 20, 2019 at 8:30 am

    Lehner said it post game – best 3rd period all year playing with the lead as many have here have already pointed out

    Re: Seabs – I think the kids gotta play – CHI’s future is not a $7 million Seabrook and probably it doesn’t involve Duncs or Crawford or Gus – it’ll be interesting at TDL

    People keep saying CC has a NMC but I don’t think that’s correct – I think he has to submit a 10 team list he’d accept a trade to IIRC – if they sign Lehner he’ll surely put teams on his list that are likely to want him or maybe he’ll just waive his whole clause

    Boquist was more noticeable in a good way as well

  • December 20, 2019 at 8:51 am

    Wrap I believe you are correct about the LIMITED movement clause of Crawford.

  • December 20, 2019 at 9:01 am

    Last night was a one off.
    This year is another top draft pick year. Stan must not pick!

  • December 20, 2019 at 10:15 am


    I agree!

    If not for Lehner shutting the door, the hawks could’ve easily been behind by 3 or 4 in the first.

    Absolute grand theft by Lehner!

  • December 20, 2019 at 10:58 am

    Good win for the boys. Lehner and Kane are unbelievable.
    It’s just nice to read the comments at least for one game and not read people complaining (rightly so at times).

  • December 20, 2019 at 11:06 am

    Nothing has changed! One man 88 team! Need outshot once again! If 50 & 40 don’t shine, no way they keep close in any games. Team not big and skilled enough!

  • December 20, 2019 at 11:50 am

    Agree with Hull. 50 and 40 are masking (pun intended) mediocre team play, with exception of 88, and to a lesser extent, 19 and 20.

    Shaw never plays a complete season and deHaan is out again. Bowman rolled the dice on these trades and they backfired.

    Unless Nylander shows he belongs, the offseason moves were a setback.

  • December 20, 2019 at 12:46 pm

    Imagine the hawks record without arguably the 2 best goalies in the league….

  • December 20, 2019 at 12:51 pm

    Lots of questions in next few months about this roster, not just ice off moves, which if either Goalie is in next years plans. Which forwards will be around, Smith looks like Entwistle can fill that role and be upgrade, Shaw’s health and where does fit. Are Nylander and Kubalik both back and among other issues to arie as ywar goes on. Defense wise will Maatta and Dehaan (health also) both be back, are we maybe seriously looking at post Seabrook and even Keith era. Lots of work ahead.

  • December 20, 2019 at 1:15 pm

    If Seabs is sitting to let youngsters play he may waive his nmc and maybe Keith will do the same – there would be Cup contenders I think interested in Duncs

    Not sure if any team would take Seabrook but Keith would be a valuable trade chip as would Crawford if they sign Lehner

  • December 20, 2019 at 1:27 pm

    Ian,I am no roster genius but if I were to make a few guesses at what the roster would look like if Stan Bowman is the G.M.Both goalies will be gone.Dehaan and Shaw won’t play again for this team due to their injury situations.Maata & Smith will be moved at the deadline.Dont think the Hawks have the guts to move Lehner or Crawford.Have a feeling that they will give Strome that Contract,I would not.He is just not a 2nd or 3td line Center.Keith is not going anywhere unless the Seabrook thing lingers and Colliton is still here next year.They will go out and get some Size at the forward spots.A lot hinges on what is done management wise and if Rocky steps in.

  • December 20, 2019 at 2:06 pm

    This team sucks and will continue to suck.

    Last night, seeing Lehner put on a clinic and seeing the offense show up in the 3rd.

    There aren’t many games this year, that I’ve enjoyed start to finish. There likely won’t be that many more.

    So no bitching from me today.

  • December 20, 2019 at 2:56 pm

    Tim-I don’t see Maatta going. Along with de Hann (gone, maybe for year) and Murphy the only thread of protection. I do like the early signs of Gilbert and welcome the physical presence. And Maatta is only 25, he just seems he should be older.
    Of course if there is a fire sale, don’t see that happening, then anything (almost) could happen.
    They have to consider Kane and Toews (and Lehner/Crow) and need to stay competitive-is it best for a top pick–no, but they aren’t in the getting the top pick business.

  • December 20, 2019 at 3:16 pm

    Tim i see possibly the defense next season 2nd and 3rd pairs as Maatta Mitchell as one pair and Gilbert Murphy but Dehaans injury raises questions on his moveability. Boqvist and Keith as top pair. In the unlikely event Keith is moved then an acquisition. Pulijarvi is type of forward you say they should get.

  • December 20, 2019 at 3:52 pm

    I will remain on record that if Keith is part of our top pair defensively, this year or next, then our defense is not in a position to get us to the playoffs, or have any chance in the playoffs if the goaltending actually gets us there. Simply put – his days as a top line Dman are over. Again – name 5 teams in the NHL who would right now move Duncan Keith into their top line and have him NOT replace a player of better quality (injuries do not count). We are talking for a full season. I refuse to live in the past.

    And Boqvist is NO WHERE NEAR ready for a top pairing. What good are the playoff if you are going to get shellacked? Both Crow and Lehner would claim injury or illness!!

    I am very happy with last night’s effort. But why last night and to some extent the Colorado game before it? What happened? What changed? Why was Kane sighted on the backcheck – and doing it well? Why was Keith in defensive position most of the night? Nylander skating hard? Was it the coaching (ah yes, we all know that can’t be the case). Gee – maybe they decided to give a shit for a game or two? I think LEhner actually called out the core and the forwards with his comments post-game in his previous start. He said it straight. And spot on. We have a structure, but we don’t play it.

    That’s all I ask of them on a nightly basis. Try hard and do your job. Control what you can control. Otherwise, ask for a trade, so we can determine who really wants to be here and have a chance to evaluate the team as individual players to determine who fits our needs.

  • December 20, 2019 at 3:56 pm

    Dehaan plays a physical game.This is shoulder surgery #5 for him.I hope that I am wrong and he comes back strong .Its just there really is no precedent for his injury history.Shaw was having serious concussion issues in Montreal and I dont think he would ever play the game any differently.Forwards like him and Caggula are just giving away too much size now for the type of game that they play.Who knows,with Darcy Kuemper,s injury last night ,and his shaky play before that,the Coyote,s may be asking about Crawford.They dont seem to trust Raanta.Although Minnesota probably had a good book on Kuemper before they threw a 7 spot on him last night.

  • December 20, 2019 at 4:04 pm

    I agree.That 3rd period last night was the way you play with a lead.It was a breath of fresh air.Instead of holding on for dear life,they took control.The Coach actually had the right players on the ice and backed off lining up at the blue line.Lehner must have been in shock.Probably the most comfortable 3rd period he has had in awhile.

  • December 20, 2019 at 5:16 pm

    Lets hope bowman out of desperation starts trading players away just gsther picks. This team is in a rebuild. The management needs to be honset with themselves and be smart and deliberate in their next moves. Even if that means jobs may be lost.

  • December 20, 2019 at 5:43 pm

    Silent i think by end of season alot of the nay sayer talk on Boqvist will be much quieter. Agree and have posted to the fact i would like see them acquire another top pair of the future guy. Just posted what i think thwey might ice next season to start. Actually it’s funny last night against a pretty good Jets team people posting and i agree it was their best 3rd period of the year. Boqvist playing most mins by far in a game and 3rd period on top pair with Keith in that period.

  • December 20, 2019 at 6:13 pm

    I hope the nay sayer talk is more quiet too. But recent history tells me that this board, and fans certainly in general, frequently misjudge the talents of young defensive players. We had Ruuta and Forsling as our top pair for years to come in November of 2017. Joki was treated with the same regard last year.

    You obviously have a good insight about hockey, a good grasp of the game. I think we can agree that judging a Dman on 12 games of play at the NHL level may be a bit risky, even at 45-50 games. At 100, we probably have a pretty good picture of the stronger likelihood of how that player will turn out. But given one more full season, we can then be pretty sure of who that player will become.

    Unfortunately for me, I don’t feel that the guys getting the most minutes are necessarily your best players all of the time, meaning they are not necessarily the top pair or top line.

    I can’t imagine being someone who is trying to determine how to fix this team when too many of the players are giving a full effort. The last players I would hope to be giving me an incomplete effort would be the players making the most – the core guys I have already taken care of the rest of their lives financially. Why would they betray me with half-assed efforts? Got a problem – come see me! We are family. Maybe that has happened, I don’t know.

    Until this group plays hard every night for a period of time greater than they have so far, how can a GM judge players or coaches, or how can you even judge the GM? Personally, I don’t ever recall needing a coach to tell me I needed to play harder in my life. Oh, and I was playing for free. Until the vets on this team put out, they ARE the problem.

    The last 2 games give me hope that maybe they finally will give effort worthy of our time and patience, as we wait for them to come together as a team or be reformed, or even dismantled.

    I enjoy your posts, and appreciate your points of view.

  • December 20, 2019 at 6:47 pm

    Silent thx and enjoy reading your posts as well. Agree defenseman can be hard to really gauge where they will be the first 100 or 150 games. What is impressing me about Boqvist right now is the committment he is making to defense and sacrificing offense to do it. Sometimes he makes a bad choice or doesn’t get good coverage on his man, yes but i don’t worry about a young player making mistakes if he is trying to become a better player which seems to be happening and gaining confidence.

    Not so sure it’s as much lack of effort on the core as it is coming to terms with they can get away with now, compared to what they could when younger. As somebody mentioned having a defensive beast on the wing like Hossa to have your back and be an elite scorer too is hard to replace. Toews, Hossa and Keith could dominate both ends of the ice, now a little older and no fault of his, Saad he isn’t Hossa, nobody is, they need to find other ways. More of committment, adapt a bit and when the going gets tough resorting to old habits aren’t as successful anymore. Still believe the right coach can get alot of hockey from those 2 yet.

  • December 20, 2019 at 9:03 pm

    Like Phil said, we have to play hard, having some inexperienced young players and the core we do. The role players are good, like the goalies.

    So why do we ‘play’ in only half?i mean exatly 50% of the games. We should have enough evergy to ‘play’ in maybe 75% area (no team can for 100% of the games)(not even 2010 Blackhawks). So why.

    Because we do ‘play’ and outplay or play good/beat any kind of teams (top 10, mid tier/bottom10)in half of the games. We have flat out out played half/split essentially the games with every top 10 team we have played. Why.

    Its hard to understand.

  • December 20, 2019 at 9:15 pm

    Silent.Ian-Where this team is now and it’s current major problem is that the upper management has refused to evolve and provide etc with the complimentary pieces that are required not only to compete but to protect them.No Centers,No size on the wing,No bigger faster and physical puck moving d men,I know they now are developing but that is not going to help the core now.Continually drafting smaller players until this year.Yes,19 and 2 are not what they were but effort is not the problem.It can’t always be blamed on the Cap.And now you sprinkle in a very young inexperienced Coach who has no Nhl help on his bench.and you have a losing proposition.

  • December 20, 2019 at 11:21 pm

    Tim I’m not sure how you expect management to really help 19, 2, 88, 20, 50, 7 when these guys are taking up so much of the cap space.
    The core needs to lead the team if the hawks are going to have any success.
    Lack of effort is a huge issue along with old age and lack of talent.
    To many players have an all offense and no defense mantality which is pretty obvious when every game the opposing teams get at least 35 shots.
    Agree coaching staff is made up of useless tools and the GM without a contract has made some really dumb moves to try to get himself another contract.
    Is the Toews and Kane Stanley Cup window still open?….lol

  • December 20, 2019 at 11:44 pm

    Don’t care if Nylander scores 15 goals this season, he is too soft and will never help this team get into the playoffs. Roster is weak and that is Bowman. It’s SAAD to see when 20 is injured that are options are Cagg & Sikura? Wow, how awful is that considering we have not made the playoffs the last two seasons and were eliminated in the 1st round back in 2016? We have no goalie prospect (GRAVEL not the guy, can’t get an invite to Canadian Junior team), no center, no power forward, no power dman, nothing! Nick Schmaltz for Dylan Strome? NEVER would have made that trade! Watch Nick skate all over the ice for Arizona, his speed, skill, determination on the back check, all of that outshines a slow skating and weak Strome. Too bad but Bowman cannot give that guy any $$$. Noel Acciari another hat trick, a real 4th line player who can score goals, has size and can skate like the wind. Tallon! Plus, Bowman trades the only Dman he has drafted the last 2 years that has some size (JOKU), not super size but not like the smurfs he drafted in Boqvist, Mitchell and Beaudin! What was he thinking? Well, not much, he has no clue.

  • December 20, 2019 at 11:45 pm

    By the way, well said TIM! The coaching staff is the most embarassing one in the league!

  • December 21, 2019 at 12:40 am

    It is an unforgiving league for teams top players.Toews has to get his results stats wise on par with Kanes.Toews has 0 points the last 2 games.He is ranked 33rd in the league for Center scoring and his -6 ranks near the bottom for top centers.Last year when he had his career year it ranked 14th point wise for centers.This team as constructed needs him to be up top of the center stats lists.

  • December 21, 2019 at 1:01 am

    The core takes up that much cap space now. When 7 50 and maybe 2 arnt here. Thats not a thing anymore. Plus when those guys are gone, whatever yr that is. 19 88 prob do 5 ish m caphits, something lower then 10.5, then it wont be like its been core caphit wise.

    Not going away from your point.

    Whatever yr that is coming up, theres a whole bunch of players in line for that yr. Then the young wave will be the core.

    For us sucking, for half the games, and thats with this system and everything that has snowballed, that we have to deal with, as its hard enough already. That gets us another top draft skill player. Thats 3 right there and if we trade as much as we can at deadline draft and summer, to load up on picks, next yr were prob looking at another top 5 draft skill player.

    Then were talking about having 4 elite players right there to go with 12 and the old geezers 19 88. I do not care what age 19 188 are when young wave is a core, they still can be good, at lower caphits like 5-10, not 10.5, with a team full of younger players and guys like Gilbert.

  • December 21, 2019 at 2:03 am

    Not about cap hits, it’s about the roster, the prospects, the drafts, the trades, the GM’s failure to keep feeding 19, 88, 7, 2 more players! The system and the coach we all agree, is non existent! Watched highlights with the Panthers tonight and you can tell there is a system in place with the right roster to make it happen! Thus, the GM has a pulse on his team and his coach. Bowman is clueless so let’s stop about talking about cap issues like it only exists in Chicago. Take the Pens, how many injuries do they have? How many miullion dollar players do they have? And they traded an all-star like Kessel away, yet everyone they draft makes the team and the system keeps going without Crosby at times and Malkin as well. Tristan Jarry in goal! A drafted goalie like Murray! In 2015, Kane and Toews were still young!

  • December 21, 2019 at 7:27 am

    Hull the Pens have drafted impact goalies true. However they have drafted no defensemen since Letang over a decade ago on current roster. Some good forwards last decade still there Hornquist and Rust who helped win last cups and Simon and Lafferty now. So if you take Dach, Debrincat and Saad not losing there and if Lehner resigns makes that a moot point about their drafting helping so much more.

    I will agree their supporting pieces have stepped up big time for them while last few years Blackhawks have lacked there and is something that needs to happen on both ends of ice to help goalies and scoring.

  • December 21, 2019 at 8:43 am

    I am not blaming caphits, just saying that in a couple yrs/2? whatever yr it is, most of core will not be on roster and 19 88 could do lower then 10.5, it will be just in time for some of the young wave to get bridges/whatever they do.

    I do think like your saying, we need more good role players, secondary scoring, other things we need to be better at and have better players-fast young size/the stuff other teams have more of that we need.

    We do need those things. Then were talking.

    If we did better, for supporting cast the last 3 yrs, then we wouldnt have 3/after this yr draft and a possible 4th top 5 draft skill players coming. We might have 0 of those kind of players

    So we wanted that, but beat way to reload is to get 4 top 5 skill draft players. So that could not have worked out any better for us.

    19 88 will still be good enough to help contribute and help the young core. Something the other top teams do not have.

    7 2? 50 window is closed on thie core as a group. 19 88 can still win a cup when they are 40. Just wont best players on team at that point. Contributes.

  • December 21, 2019 at 8:53 am

    We hvae got lucky at draft before/drafted well.
    We hav emade good trades before.
    We have sign good ufas before.
    We have had a good system before.
    We have had good coaches before.
    We have had good young players before.

    We need to do these things again and we can. We do need to do hem though, cant just pretend were doing them.

  • December 21, 2019 at 9:47 am

    I believe it is the role players that make a difference. Every team has their superstars. 11 teams have 6 players taking up at least $40mil in cap space.
    Tor 49 (ltir help)
    SJ 47
    Chi 45
    Dal Phi 43
    Veg Pit 42
    Ed Fl 41
    Bos Buf 40
    3rd and fourth liners just as important as superstars.

  • December 21, 2019 at 1:05 pm

    Hockey Buzz Site this morning is reporting an E3 rumored trade of Toews and Keith to the Kings for Doughty and a Top Prospect.May upgrade it to E4 rumor before the end of the day.

  • December 21, 2019 at 1:10 pm

    I believe E5 is the definitely going to happen rating for that writer.

  • December 21, 2019 at 1:16 pm

    Tab,Work your magic and see if this thing has legs.

  • December 21, 2019 at 1:24 pm

    TIM – Can you link us up on that info? Not finding it myself. Thanks.

  • December 21, 2019 at 1:29 pm

    Silent,Its Eklund from the Hockey Buzz.Just type in Nhl rumors and it will be the 2nd entry listed.

  • December 21, 2019 at 1:32 pm

    He gives out the big stuff for free and pushes his Rumored Trade Chart hard but you really dont need it.

  • December 21, 2019 at 3:17 pm

    If you think the Blackhawks would trade Toews & Keith in the same deal you really need to reconsider the choices you’ve made regarding narcotics in your life. Especially to LA. Especially for ONLY Doughty & a prospect. Neither side wants anything to do w/ that deal in a hundred years.

  • December 21, 2019 at 3:37 pm

    Tab,You know Eklund and what he puts out there a lot better than I do.I just had never heard it anywhere and was wondering where it originated.He usually does not throw real wild stuff out there with 1 of those E1-5 ratings on it.

  • December 21, 2019 at 3:42 pm

    On the more realistic side of things,the Rangers highly drafted Center LAnderson has asked for a trade.He might look good wearing the Indian Head.

  • December 21, 2019 at 3:48 pm

    Maybe put the Strome brothers together and the Hawks get Anderson and Kreider.Hawks would have to throw in a draft pick.

  • December 21, 2019 at 3:48 pm

    I stopped reading Hockey buzz trade ideas after the never happened, during the dynasty yrs. I think.

    Its fun to fantasy football.

    What I am excited about is getting another top 5 skill draft player, if we stay around 3-5 area in standings. Which could happen if we make trades at deadline.

  • December 21, 2019 at 3:52 pm

    I would like to see Wirtz refresh and make trades and moves that get us back to Four Wheel Drive again.

    Better to suck for a yr and get another top 5 draft player, if were not top 10-15 teams standings wise, with a full roster like this yr.

    Then go about it as load up on draft, get a top 5 draft stud each yr, and made those trades and moves to get us back, once the young wavers are established.

    Prob only 19 88 12 20? 5 44? left and then you are ready with the wave.

  • December 21, 2019 at 7:04 pm

    Not blaming the sch, for more then it Really deserves, but.

    You cannot ever, ever have all the games agasint any division team be played by game 30? It has to be 2 or 3 games in 1st 40 games and 2nd 40 games.

    I realize it cant be done, corrctly, but at least have 2 or 3 games in each half/40 games.

    Same thing with other conference games, should not ever play any other coference games in last 10-15 games of 82 games, because they have nothing to do with seeds.

    Man I wish I could be the sch maker for the NHL, it would be done properly.

    Every team in league needs to have an open sch date availablility for the rink, in order to be in the league. Then the sch could be done right, like I am saying.

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