Schwartz, Blues Hammer Blackhawks
Jaden Schwartz had a huge night for the St. Louis Blues that looked like it may have ended early.
Schwartz scored the first goal of the game 4:46 into the first period to give the Blues a 1-0 lead. Later in the first, however, Schwartz lost an edge and went into the boards behind Corey Crawford head-first and stayed down for some time. He was helped from the ice and the immediate thought was that he was hurt and certainly wouldn’t return to the game.
Well, Schwartz came back and scored two more times to complete a hat trick and lead the Blues to a 5-2 victory in front of a nationally televised audience.
Schwartz scored his second at 5:59 into the second and Vladimir Tarasenko scored at 7:49 to extend the Blues’ lead to three. St. Louis was 0-5 on the power play in the first two periods but held a 26-8 shot advantage through 40 minutes.
Kyle Brodziak made it 4-0 in favor of the Blues seven minutes into the third.
Coach Joel Quenneville pulled Crawford early in an effort to get his team back in the game, and it appeared to work.
Richard Panik tipped a Duncan Keith shot into the net for a power play goal at 14:47 into the third.
Panik’s fourth of the year had assists given to Keith and Patrick Kane.
Ryan Hartman added a power play goal 80 seconds later to make things interesting.
Hartman’s third of the season had assists given to Alex DeBrincat and Brent Seabrook and cut the lead to 4-2.
Over the next three minutes, the Blues hilariously tried over and over again to put the puck into the vacated Blackhawks’ net and failed. Jan Rutta made a few saves and a few other Hawks blocked shots but Chicago couldn’t get the puck under control long enough to get another scoring chance.
Schwartz completed his hat trick into the empty cage with 52 seconds left in regulation to put the final marker on the board.
Crawford stopped 28 of 32 in the loss. Jake Allen stopped 22 of 24 for the Blues.
Jonathan Toews won 14 of 21 faceoffs to lead Chicago at the dot. Nick Schmaltz returned and five of 12 in 18:07 on the ice.
Tommy Wingels led the Hawks with five hits but was minus-three. John Hayden and Patrick Sharp were also minus-three in the game. Keith and Seabrook were each minus-four in the game and didn’t look good on any of the Blues’ goals.
It was an ugly road loss that needs to be put away quickly because the Hawks come home to face Edmonton on Thursday night.
Everybody looked bad.
Sch. makers won this game. Everytime theres more then the usually amount of days of between games this happens.
No Rhythm, flow. Out of sinc. with schs like this. Its the gap between games that does this, not the 4in6 days.
Once we have a normal sch. again we can play. This type of sch is sputter, 5games in 6 days, then 4 days off, then 3in4. Start stop start stop start.
Still 4-1-1, then a hit, now? is good 6of7 games against top10 teams.
Not a great effort by any Blackhawk so no value in singling out a few as being totally inadequate. Take away those first two games of the season and one would have to say that those who questioned the likelihood of the Blackhawks even making the play-offs are closer to being expert forecasters than most of us would like to believe. Let’s hope our offense soon finds its way again.
Based on tonight’s performance, maybe Seabrook and Keith should join the defensemen rotating in and out of the lineup.
Discombobulated is the word that comes to mind! I dont comment on here often, but wow , that was sad ! I hate the Blues ! Many of the Hawks look weak on the puck. Anisimov looks drugged. I love Sharp , I hope he isnt done . Seabrook and Kieth do look a tad slow. I have a theory. When they won their last cup….. they did it with for the most part 4 Dmen. I believe that they havent recovered from that grueling run, when Kesler was trying to kill them . Sure they won the prize , but the top guys ( except Kane ) dont look the same.
Happened to by in Stl and was about to drop some money and go to the game. Decided against it and I’m glad I did what anwful game from the Hawks. Without their puck possession game I don’t like the Hawks chances against teams like the Preds, Blues & Wild who play more of a physical game.
I missed the game but from the highlights, box score, and Q’s post game comments it seems the Hawks spent the first two periods playing terrible and the only sign of life was the back half of the 3rd period,
The speedy Oilers are on the schedule tomorrow … Yikes!
That was really, really painful to watch last night. No positives at all to be taken from that woeful effort. The Hawks just weren’t ready to play and the Blues were. The score does not reflect the game. It might as well have been 5-0. I can’t say the efforts have been very good against division opponents thus far. Without Crow they would have been blown up by the Preds too.
Oilers can skate, but have some defensive issues. It has to be a better push tonight on all fronts by the Hawks.
Lets Go Hawks!
Looks like we have some “kinks” in the armor.
Recipe for Failure….
Pay 2 guys double of what they made in their primes for Half the effort/ability/compete… for their Post-prime years (and long term- to boot)
19 and 7 are half the players they were….
Turned it off after 1st – watching 7 forget Schwartz was behind the net…
and Toews- making grumpy faces after clearly tripping a guy with his stick (cuz doesn’t compete or win puck battles anymore) remember when Toews would go after a 50/50 puck on boards and come out with it 75% of the time… doesn’t even try anymore really… cuz he “focused” on speed this summer… Bullshit- he just ain’t strong enough or hungry enough anymore…
Once again- not Players fault… This all falls on the FO/SB for thinking these guys can play for ever at high level…
Bouma and Wingels- were NOT the answer this Summer… SB- needed to make a BIGGER move– AA is Garbage too
Poor all around effort except for Crawford. Although 2 and 7 were minus 4 one goal 7 just got on ice on a breakaway and 2 trying get off on a bad change. Another was a giveaway infront by AA and an empty netter.
Just need to bring a lot earlier than the 3rd. McDavid is 0 g 3 A and -5 in last 4 games at least.
Recipe for a Wall comment:
Hawks lose.
Takes shots at Toews & Seabrook. Blames Bowman for the sky falling in mid-October.
Doesn’t fail. Amazing.
He makes the same comment when the Hawks win. Beat the piss out of that dead horse. I think it moved a little.
I rarely post because I’m a lurker here. I’m far from a homer and agree with what most have voiced; but we are in October, It’s not like it’s February or March…
a hiccup every now and then is allowed, right? Yes it was garbage last night but please don’t panic.
I will end my post with: Corey deserves better. The guy has been standing on his head (up until last night) and has done great work.
Phil, The Hawks just weren’t ready to play and the Blues were.
Stefanie, a hiccup every now and then is allowed, right?
This says it here. 4 days between games gets out of sinc, no rhythm, no flow would make sense we weren’t ready to play and they were.
Wall…the problem was not 19-7 , the Hawks didn’t show up for the game …its a team effort. Their was no passion,
Its rare to see a team having good games all year long ..still have more then 70 games to play and the next one will be a very nice game to watch…
Love my Hawks and still think they have a really good team ..another 10-15 games to fine the way to play the lines with all those new faces .no rush just have fun guys .
Well Mo your schedule theory will be something to keep track of. What seems to be an early trend apart from the first 2 games is the Hawks have been very slow to find some jump early and set the tone. Crow has bailed them out of some rough 1st periods where they could have been down 2 or 3 goals easy.
Come on Wall you can do this. Snap out of your Eeyore funk now!
I’m hoping for a bounce back game against the Oil tonight at the UC.
Lets Go Hawks!
Wall,
Just out of curiosity here, but what do you think should have been done with Toews? I need a good laugh.
If it were up to you, Crawford would be gone. So would Seabrook. Believe you wanted Kane dealt a time or two as well. Who the eff would be left if you ran the team?
Serious question: are you the ghost of Wirtz Sr.?
He wanted the Hawks to sign Cory Schneider to an offer sheet in an attempt to force Vancouver to overpay him.
Oddly enough the Blackhawks led the Blues in 5 on 5 corsi 39 to 37 and tied 64 to 64 overall. The Toews line led forwards with all 3 in double digit numbers and 2 and 7 led dmen in corsi numbers. Murphy Sharp AA and Crawford only others with positive numbers. 88 -1 , 8 -3 & 38 -6 were numbers for 2nd line. 4th line numbers brutal , maybe Kero make a difference, But in fairness their icetime limited in 3rd where bkackhawks positive numbers were
Seabrook flat out sucks. He’s been regressing for the last 2-3 years and it cannot be ignored anymore. His contract is going to handcuff this team for the next few years. He’s not even a top 4 blue-liner anymore, yet along a top pairing guy on a team that’s supposed to be contending for Cups.
The Hawks got 7 points out of 4 games against Eastern Conference team – very good. Then they played 3 divisional opponents and got dominated in all three games and were lucky to eek out an OT win against the Preds. If the Hawks have hopes of making the playoffs, they must fair better than that against Central Division teams.
I’m not sure what the answers are but my early season optimism has definitely taken a hit.
Ernie you were asking about a site for shot stats and charts try sportstats.ca/hockey its best I saw this year.
Sorry hockeystats.ca/game ignore previous one
Boring first 2 periods. Blues were big fast and physical. Hawks were none. Showed some life in the third. Hopefully that leads to a better showing/effort tonight.
Thanks Ian. Was hoping for a more individual shot attempts. Lots of turnover as far as hockey stat sources lately. Hoping it’s not the league getting rid of them when they started coming up with their own stats.
That’s all corsi is. Total shot attempts. And surprisingly, they tied in that area. Gotta hit the net more and get pucks through bodies.
I absolutely agree that is October and people shouldn’t be living and dying on every game. However, IF Conner Murphy continues to be a press box regular(yes I know he played last night) and Seabrook continues to get outskated by younger guys it’s absolutely going to be a problem. It’s unfair to expect Rutta and Forsling not to have some level of regression during the season. Seabrook has been proven to respond to bad outings with really good ones so let’s see what happens tonight.
I am with you Ebony I thought all the offseason moves worked like a charm after the first two games. Now the team seems to be displaying a lot of the same characteristics it had last year, getting out shot, slow starts, strong goaltending. Only the scoring seems to be a little more distributed around the lineup but the bottom two lines, particularly the 4th, my goodness you can probably count the goals on one hand from that last line by the end of the year.
But I keep coming back to the fact that, like Pittsburg, this core is gold. (Toews, Kane, Keith, Crawford) You fit the right parts around them and employ the right system, and you will have success.
Toews is not CROSBY or MALKIN. As great as Keith is, Letang can still skate with elite speed. But, I do not blame Seabs or Keith. The Pens have had the same low draft picks as the HAWKS the last 10 years but they manage to draft players like MAATA, DUMUOLIN, MURRAY, SHEARY, RUST, POULIOT, and so on. Who has our GM drafted on this team the last 9 years???
Toews has been a 50-60 pint man the last 3 seasons. Too bad but he gave it all the first 6-7 years.
Unfortunately, the depth is extremely weak on this team and it will be difficult to contend with the much bigger and faster teams in the west. I think it is time to let Snuggerrud, Hinostroza, Jurco, Dauphin and Kempf make the jump. Trade away Anisimov who is too slow. Debrincat needs a season or half a season in AHL. Waive Franson, and trade MURPHY or RUTTA for more assets or prospects. Unless, Evander KANE can be had?
@ TOTTI
Evander Kane? When the Jets were shopping Kane a few years ago I was all for the Hawks adding him, he is no doubt a dynamic hockey player. Evander Kane omg still only 26 yrs old is in a contract year and is obviously playing like a player who is looking at getting a fat paycheck. Wouldnt shock me to see him have his best season ever. No doubt he will be looking to get paid well over 6 million dollars a yr. Then once you pay him what are you going to get out of him? The 30 G guy or the 19 G guy? Not to mention his off ice nonsense. Seabs for Kane SURE but no GM could be that stupid.
You know Totti those are the kind of strong aggressive moves I would imagine Dale Tallon would execute if he were still the GM. I don’t think it is in Stan’s wheelhouse to tear it down and rebuild to that degree.
And you are right about the hit and miss draft record we have had over the past several years, particularly in the area of defensemen. I think Hammer was the last defenseman of any consequence that we drafted and developed ourselves.
In the meantime teams like Pitt developed the guys you listed, St L drafted and developed Pareyko, Dallas Klingberg, Nashville added Subban in a trade, developed Ekholm and company, Winnipeg developed Josh Morrisey….yes we have picked low but the drought has really hurt us compared to our competition. Too bad we couldn’t seal the deal with Butcher this off season as he looks like a real player already for New Jersey.
Mox- few years ago I pondered the question here…
Should SB/Hawks deal 19 for 2016 #1 or #2 (knowing Jets had top pick) – Mathews Pick??? Gave stats on How Mathews- surpassed a lot of the Kane scoring stats from USDP as Youth… and Using that extra cap space for a couple of $5M stars + Mathews or Laine….
I said- it was a much “ballsier” deal for SB to do… yet it was probably the smarter business decision… Of course- we don’t even know if Jets would have done it (I think they would of)… but – once again… it would be safer (for SB’s Job) to just pay 19 — versus– make big trade.. fail… and then Hawk Nation would Blame it on SB… Now Tab/Fans- say – 19 or 7 are not the problems… I agree– it’s there contracts that are bad!!!
amount and length… yes- most will say – price for success…
I will say it’s price – for past success… bad business decision
I agree “Hereismike”! Butcher would have made an impact as well as Mike Reilly last year if he would have chosen the HAWKS over the Wild.
Maybe the new coaching staff at Rockford will develop players a little more but if Vinny is platying at centre at Rockford and then you ask him to play wing, for example, then he is not in a position to succeed. This pattern has been going on for several years…Happened with TEUVO, SCHMALTZ last year, and VINNY….
True Mike, Hawks really need to draft better dmen and develop them as well for the NHL. And SAAD is also the last drafted left winger with size and speed to make this team.
You 2 aren’t Hawks fans. You’re just Bowman haters. Get over yourselves. If you were smarter you’d have a job in the league.
Mike fucking Reilly? Hawks went after him. He signed with the team his dad is minority owner of. Reilly was a -27 2 years ago and was just recalled the other day after being sent down. Nobody knows if he’s worth a shit. Ditto for butcher.
Had Butcher been signed you would have bitched for signing another guy under 6′. The incessant complaining is nauseating. How the hell do you enjoy a game?
Centers can play wing. Wings can’t always play center. Playing center in the minors teaches defensive responsibility and hopefully gives you another guy that can take draws. Too many centers is like too many center fielders. Adam Eaton was OK in center field. Put him in right.. gold glove caliber. Most of these forwards played center growing up because they were the best players on their team.
You’re asking for a very specific skill set at a specific position. Teams are hoping to get 1 or 2 impact players at any position. What you want is flat out unrealistic and ignorant to expect.
Seabrook lets Maroon get behind him 1 to 1… keith had McD… Watch your own guy… not Keith s guy!!!
Getting old.
Funny you say that Wall first thing i thought of was if McDavid scored how down you would be on Seabrook for not trying to help Keith. You definitely are getting old
I think Hayden deserves a shot on the 3rd line alongside Sharp. Maybe move Debrincat on the fourth line where he can play some puck possession alongside Bouma.
Unfortunately, Kero simply does not add anything to this team. He is not NHL caliber. Maybe bring up Hinostroza or Dauphin to play 4th line centre. Feel for Toews who had numerous chances to put the Oilers away in regular time as well as OT. Oilers have lots of speed! Russell block shot artist!
And great game once again by Forsberg. Talbot as well.
Ian- very clever… but really? pretty simple 2 on 2 … u got guy on left – I got the guy on right…
Toews- Great game with about 6 Grade A+ chances (zero points)
Oesterle- decent game… not bad for 1st
Murphy- best game as Hawk
Snuggy – waiting in Rock…
SB- will have some D prospects/guys to deal at TDL… assuming No one gets hurt… all of Forsling/Kempny/Oesterle/Murphy are goods chips to have
You absolutely do not trade Forsling. That’s one of the dumbest things I’ve heard in a while.
ANISIMOV is who we need to trade for a young prospect. Let’s give Vinny and Kempf ice time. Unless we land Galchenyuk for AA????
Give Forsling a whole season. But we need offence on the 3rd and 4th line, badly. Watching Anaheim play and it is amazing how Bob Murray keeps to draft NHL players! With so many regulars out, they manage to get AHL players performing.