Should The Blackhawks Make A Play For Jake DeBrusk?
One of the worst kept secrets in the league got out on Monday: forward Jake DeBrusk wants out of Boston. Which got us wondering… could the offensively desperate Blackhawks be a potential suitor for the unhappy winger?
DeBrusk, 25, is in the final year of his current contract that carries a $3.675M cap hit. He is a restricted free agent after this season.
This season, DeBrusk has three goals and three assists and is averaging 14:24 on ice per game. He scored 62 goals in 203 games over his first three NHL seasons (2017-18 through 2019-20), including a career-high 27 goals in his sophomore season. He’s a shooter.
But he’s fallen into the dog house in Boston over the past couple seasons and has wanted out for some time. Over the weekend, DeBrusk formally requested a trade through his agent. Boston selected him with the 14th overall pick in the 2015 NHL Draft… 11 spots after a player the Bruins may be interested in swapping for him.
Dylan Strome, the third overall pick in 2015, just happens to be in the final year of a contract that carries a $3M cap hit and will be an RFA this coming summer. And he was, once again, a healthy scratch on Sunday.
According to CapFriendly, the Bruins currently have $2,266,443 in available cap space. Chicago, on the other hand, is already using LTIR space. So a deal may require either the Bruins to retain some money or take back another player (cough, Gustafsson, cough).
Either way, DeBrusk is desperate for a change of scenery. The Blackhawks need scorers. And he could be the kind of guy in the final year of a deal that would do well after a change of scenery.
DeBrusk for Strome works for me.
All for it, only issue is Debrusk is due a 4.34m QO next summer to retain his rfa rights. Probably a 3rd line guy on a good team, pretty high caphit. Has arbitration eligibility as well. If he were to sign an extension for less than his caphit be a good acquisition. Strome due a 3.6m QO, so not a huge difference but both pretty high.
They definitely lack some scoring punch. Sounds like a good deal. Strome for DeBrusk. Let’s see how the management handles this….
If the Hawks were to turn Strome into DeBrusk I’d be elated which probably means it’s not going to happen but we’ll see
Very interesting possibility though
I brought that idea up before. Bruins lost a little leverage. Thinking Strome Connelly retain $1.75mil of Connelly for Strome. They could put Connelly on IR depending on his injury.
Don’t mind giving DeBrusk $4.36mil for a year. That’s the $1.75mil we saved from Connelly. Pretty sure Boston will balk. I’ll throw a late pick if it would do it.
*for DeBrusk
If we only had a G.M. to make the deal. Anyone have faith in Interim Davidson to do something here? I would also be scouring the prospect bins for Centers. How a bout Strome,Gus,and Nylander for Debrusk and a minor league Center to take Reichel,s spot in Rockford as he is elevated to play with Debrusk and Hagel?
TW – the only problem being that Reichel is injured but I like your thinking
I also wondered in KD would be in a position to make that trade or have the chops to pull off a good trade if he were
I think it’s reasonable to take your time filling the exec positions but I think they need someone preferably a Hockey Ops guy like I don’t know Jeff Gorton (sarcasm) by the start of 2022 at the latest – sooner if possible
Jr 4.4m in a new contract to somebody who scored 5 goals all of last season and 3 so far this year is alot.
A bit off topic and sorry for the rant but I still can’t get over the fact that the Hawks didn’t even talk with Jeff Gorton. I guess the days of “One Goal” are long gone. I am even more confused by Danny Wirtz’ role. Correct me if I am wrong but it seems he came on the scene when McDonough was let go. Rocky told us he was a brilliant dude who would help find a new President to lead the organization. After a lengthy “search” we were surprised to hear ole Danny Boy was in fact given the job. No significant changes were made and we went from rebuild to “playoff contender” overnight. Then the Beach disaster took center stage (which Danny had nothing to do with). Now with the organization struggling to achieve mediocrity, the word seems to be that they are looking for someone who will take over for Danny. I mean does he believe he accomplished all his goals or is he just tired of the shit show? I am not in the Chicago area and would be curious to hear if any local reporter has even asked about this or whether Rocky has any type of plan to build a top tier management team.
How about we get a GM first and let him decide if he wants Debrusk or not?? Unless………..we’re already stuck with the “intern”.
I would love to see this deal get done. The team needs scoring help. Someone brought up the names Strome, Nylander, and Gustafsson for DeBrusk.
Reichel is hurt, as we all know. I would still like to see, when he returns, to be moved to center. Let’s do this.
Hammer, Thats the problem with moving at Wirtz speed to hire G.M.s and or a Team President. A Debrusk type of situation arises and you are not prepared to be in on it or god forbid even foresee it coming and get out front of it. We need some shrewd moves to get a couple of young quality Centers in here on top of the couple of finishers on the wings that we badly need. Along with a puckmover and a strong stay at home type who can skate on Defense. These moves are going to require adult hockey people to be in charge. Tick Tock Rocky,your move.
Hawks Win, The Lazerus,s,Powers,and Roumeliotis,s of the Hawks beat don’t push Rocky,s buttons too often to get those answers that we seek. From what I have read and heard at their pressers and interviews,all 3 most be very good sailors as they tend not to rock the corporate boat too often. Given the Hawks situation you would think they would be inquiring about not only a duo G.M. /Team President hiring but maybe ask the interim G.M. about the Hawks dire Center situation . Its the 800 pound gorilla in the room that no one speaks of as Dach appears to be destined for a wing and the system has nothing in the cupboard.
A question to be asked, do the Bruins have any interest in Strome or Nylander or Connelly for that matter. The Blackhawks don’t, so good chance the Bruins don’t either.
Ian agree with you on next year’s money for a 4 goal guy. My thinking is if your on the hook for the money no matter what use it on someone that at least you’re playing in the bigs. Only hope is if DeBrusk would take term instead. 2 or 3 yrs at $3mil per.
Hawks Win – Tim W. makes great points about the media. The Blackhawks have made it clear that any independent commentary that doesn’t fit the party line will not be tolerated.
The biggest question is what is the “goal”.
Many assume that the Wirtz’s have the same goals as the fans that post on this site. However, Danny Wirtz has made clear that social goals such as ‘inclusion’ and ‘diversity’ are his top priorities. The Wirtz’s are in the entertainment business – not the Stanley Cup winning business.
I hope I am wrong, but the next hires at the front office and on the bench will be made for appearances and advancing Danny’s social agenda. Again, I hope I am wrong.
Dominic for DeBrusk.
Dominic loss the touch either trade him or send him to AHL for 3 weeks. Strome HAS NO TRADE VALUE people, if he did he would have been gone!
hell trade Dach (daze 2.0) too, the kid doesn’t have the “it” factor for this league.
It’s just rolling the dice again ! You don’t know how a player will fit in ! Sometimes it works ! POPS 4
Goose Dach still only 20 years old. Give him a full healthy season if possible. Kubalik like DCat. Sophomore jinx. Has way above average shot. See if a bridge would work.
DeBrusk and Strome close in comparison. 261 games 140 points DeBrusk. 216 games 125 points Strome. Big difference DeBrusk +13 and will drop em. Strome -25 wears mittens.
Hagel Toews Kane
DeBrincat Dach DeBrusk (The Triple D Line)
Johnson/Entwistle Borgstrom Kubalik
Entwistle/Johnson Carpenter Khaira
Ian: Can’t imagine anyone on the Bruins saying: “Hey you know that Nylander kid on the Hawks might be available”. Rinse and repeat with Strome and Connelly.
JR, maybe look at Seattle, a team low on skilled players who might like the idea of trying to get something from a Nylander or Strome while they are building a team and see about a Tanev’s availability who’s under contract for 3.5m for a few years. Nobody works any harder than him every shift. I like Debrusk just not convinced it gets done with those guys and a liveable contract to keep Debrusk around awhile.
JR Roman-dominic is in his 3rd yr and production is going down hill like a roller coaster.
Dach is another Daze 2.0 switch the back with wrist injury. big frame gets pushed around hits sometimes and fights sometimes.
anybody with a brain will tell you STROME, NYLANDER, AND GUSTAFASSON hold no trade value. pretty much anybody on the hawks are used goods/sloppy thirds.
again, if hawks fans haven’t learned, Wirtz’s are very loyal, they will keep Davidson at GM, will give king a chance, will move at a snail pace to rebuild from the top down.
AGAIN ONCE THE SETTLEMENT HAS BEEN COMPLETE WITH BEACH AND DOE 2 (HAWKS PAYING +50MM) YOU WILL NOT SEE ANY MOVEMENT IN THE BRASS.
keep beating a dead horse people.
@Ian/Hammer
I’m sure Boston would consider Kub’s for Debrusk, Strome by himself isn’t enough to get DeBrusk.
@Goose
Stan certainly left the cupboard barren, but it was Rocky who gave him that cupboard. It definitely looks as if Rocky my son, is a chip off the old block.
Personally speaking I have no illusions that anybody really wants Strome,Nylander, or Gus. I am just trying to sweep our garbage out the door in 1 swoop. I would ship Kubalik around the trade deadline with Dehaan following right behind him. Fleury also.
Ian, There are a few Kraken that I wish we had. Tanev,Schwartz,Olesiak,Giordano,Olesya,, etc.
Meant Dunne for the last name.
I know many of us would go back in time and take Byram instead of Dach but let’s remember that the Avalanche are walking on ehh shells now that he has just returned from concussion #4. He plays the type of game and has that on ice personality of a guy that is going to get run on a regular basis. He would do well to look across the ice to Makar who avoids alot of the nonsense.
Mackinnon is also becoming a target as he is returning tonight from an 8 game absence/injury.
@Tim W. there are many besides Byram that could’ve been had in that draft. Remember Cozens,
Zegras, Seider, Knight
https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2019e.html
Don’t be surprised to see Hossa with the hawks in some capacity. At his HHOF speech he thanked Danny Wirtz for being there , and said he looks forward to working with him. Whether it materializes or not we will soon see.
TimW i’m not an “if only we” dreamer, to me what’s done is done. The last 2 years of covid was like no other 2 years for lack of development opportunity for younger players, when you factor that Dach lost 2 training camps, almost all of what there was last season, his development has been stunted even more. There is plenty of time for him to find his game and be a top player in this league. He has come along fine in alot of areas, no he isn’t scoring highlight reel goals every night or landing crushing checks to show on replays but he does alot without the puck, a very good backchecker and becoming a top pker. Once the puck starts going in and he masters the fo circle a little better the negative noise will mostly go away.
My hopes for a coach and Gm is somebody who see lots of opportunity with this team and put a solid product on the ice combined with playing competitive hockey, which pretty much eliminates most of us here lol. Trades aren’t getting players you want by letting the other team take the players you don’t want, that’s just not realistic take on it. Doesn’t mean you can’t get a pick or prospect who needs work for those guys.
For what it’s worth i believe King is likely given a chance as coach and KD as Gm, a business guy hired to run day to day things unless Danny Wirtz wants to remain. Like to see Hossa hired in Vp/ asst. Gm opening, wouldn’t be just pr move but he is somebody who could be in charge someday. Maybe i’ll be surprised and some outside blood brought in time will tell but either way hopefully the team goes in positive direction from this point.
I see Strome is skating with Dach and Cat
Be interesting to see if he shows up on PP1 as well
Slavin on 4 th line – Hardman appears out for the moment
Reichel in concussion protocol, Connelly and Krutil expected to be out a couple more weeks.
Fanside chipped in with a Gaudette article this morning. Welcoming us to the Davidson Era. Get the impression that they aren’t big Fans and are predicting that he quickly undoes many Bowman moves . Stay tuned Hawk fans.
Ian, As far as we know that is #1 Concussion for Reichel. I don’t like it but I guess the news could have been much worse. Let him come back feeling 100% and get him up here to learn and play. I know it’s contractually better to leave him in Rockford for the year but I think this is a nice opportunity to learn at a higher level since he has already played with men in Europe. If we had 3 Centers I might have a different opinion but we don’t and he can learn on the job here without enduring the nightly AHL headhunting and dangerous play.
re Davidson “undoing Bowman’s moves” – we can’t complain about what Bowman did and then cry about someone trying to fix things. Was losing Gaudette for nothing ideal? No. But I can’t imagine even an interim GM wouldn’t at least try to move him before going the waivers route. And, frankly, the Hawks have enough dead weight on one-way deals that waivers are going to happen if you want to make room for guys who should be on the ice.
I would have liked to see more from Gaudette, but the org clearly didn’t like what they saw from him. And they moved on quickly. I’m glad they were decisive and did something. Stop wasting roster spots & cap space on dead weight.
Tim W- agree- AHL is a hack/cheap shot league. KID- is too gifted to be playing Chess by himself while rest of Hogs are playing Checkers.
Less likely to be hurt playing in NHL w real players (skill wise/ thinking wise) and less Hacks out there trying to earn time/look as enforcer/ energy guys in NHL
As if Debrusk- would matter on this team… need to do a full purge, blow up… Nothing down on Farm…
best options are in Jrs/College- couple D guys… ZERO offense/skill in the system… aging Kane and small sniper… Dach is OK-
Need to get lucky w/ 19/88 type drafts… and have $$$ to build around that
Dollar Bill: Kubalik for DeBrusk?? I think that would be fair.
Tim W: Great points about the media and Rocky’s snail pace. I too hit the roof when StanBo drafted Dach instead of Byram, but when I seen Dach and watched him for a bit I understood why StanBo drafted him and actually praised him later for that pick(shocking yes for me but I did back then). I say very little about Dach because I really like the kid and he still is only 20 years old and he’s still learning. I think he can be a dominant force in another year or two when he puts on a couple of more pounds. Maybe faceoffs isn’t his thing.
@Hammer Time, yep that would be fair, if it’s for Strome that would be a steal.
@Tab, Gaudette was hardly given a chance unlike Strome who seems to have struck out 3 three times.
And one can only assume they tried to trade Gaudette, from Kings language about it it sounded like they took the easy route, but that’s also assuming.
But like you said they have no shortage of dead weight on the roster, where to begin. Strome with 3points, R Johnson with 3 points, Khjaira with 2 points, DeHaan/McCabe/Stillman/Murphy with a total of 7 points.
And the real elephant in the room is Toews, with O goals, helping hold Kub’s to 3 goals
Good God TAB, If we’re speaking of jettisoning dead weight based on this 1st 20 or so games,that would mean Strome,Kurashev,Kubalik,Toews,Khaira and Carpenter should be packing bags. Maybe T.Johnson too. I give Hardman and Reesr another 20 or so. Dach would be my stary eyed future gamble.
Defense is serviceable for now but Dehaan would be on a shortlist.
Looks like Patrick Roy is tossing his hat in for the Canadiens G.M.opening. Their going fast Rocky. Don’t get caught holding Interim Davidson as your trump card.
TIM W. —makes perfect sense for Roy. English/French speaking possible GM. let them have him.
again we call all wish for the brass to make moves and pencil lines, but this organIzation is what it is, BrOKen. till they settle the beach and doe 2 settlement no one will be hired. this settlement will be dragged out till beach says yes to the money(+50mm inside rumor from a good source).
Goose: I think you may be right on that, can’t think of any other reason why they just sit there and twiddle their thumbs instead of looking around for a new leadership team. Although it shouldn’t make a difference, its two separate things. Good lord they own a friggen dynasty, it’s not like they can’t afford it.
I agree on the idea of Kubalik for Debrusk as well. Kubalik`s scoring has dried up like Debrusk `s but perhaps Boston thinks that could turn around if given power play time with Pasternak. For us, I like DeBrusk`s game more than Kubalik`s. Might not score as much but can be more reliable out there. Kubalik is a one trick pony these days. I think Vancouver is a better trade partner for Boston and DeBrusk however and they`re looking to make some moves. One of Miller, Horvat, or even Boeser might get moved. Stome doesn`t have the trade value for us right now.
Failing Debrusk however, any thoughts on Evander Kane. Supposedly, the Sharks will eat salary. He`s toxic for sure but he would fit a lot of what were missing on the ice. Strome or Kubalik might actually get a trade like this done because the Sharks want him out of the system so bad. Upgrade for us on the ice huge but I realize the baggage issues as well. Food for thought !
I completely agree that Gaudette didn’t see enough action with the Blackhawks.
But, if the org wasn’t sold on him and he wasn’t going to skate, there’s no reason to carry a daily healthy scratch. That is what makes him dead weight.
I also agree that Strome has had a much longer line and hasn’t shown nearly enough… but there’s been enough flashes of promise that he may still have trade value. Apparently Gaudette did not.
“Any thoughts on Evander Kane?”
I would move Toews and Strome for Horvat and Boeser immediately. Vancouver is looking for a rebuild and Toews may want to go much closer to home and end with a change of scenery. HELL,I would even throw in Nylander and Kubalik and take back some salary in either Tyler Myers or their other expensive D Man,Eckman-Larson I think. To put a cherry on top of the deal I would toss in Gus. Don’t go crazy guys,I’m just spitballing here. We need to think big. Maybe the Interim guy will want to make a huge splash.
Horvat-Hagel-Debrusk Boeser-Dach-Kane Debrincat-Reichel-Hardman Reese-Tyler-Slavin On Defense- Seth Jones/Murphy Kalynuk/Myers McCabe/Mitchell. Lankinen in net.
I’m in on that TW
Homer Jack Edwsrds “Marchand suspended for ALLEGEDLY slew foot”. Guess he didn’t see the video yet or thinks he just skates that way.
WOW, Just watched the 3rd period of the Florida-Washington game. The Panthers had 2 of their top line players out,Barkov&Duclair, along with Forsling and still put up 50 shots on net in coming back from a 4-1 deficit to beat the Caps 5-4 in regulation. On defense for the Panthers tonight was Van Riemsdyk and Lucas Carllson. They are loaded at all the forward positions as they absolutely manhandled Washington. They are on another level,thats for sure.
Watched the 3rd period TimW, Caps were completely outplayed. Hard to see somebody beating the Panthers right now.
Said before looking at Horvat an ufa in summer of 23 or trade and sign ahead of it similar to Jones deal might be something to think about if that is the type direction the new Gm wants to go.
Just seen the highlites. Look out the two acquisitions that I was after. Two Sams Reinhardt and Bennet. From Calgary and Buffalo. Not only for that playoff push but for the future with their signings.
Forgot I wanted Montour too.
Early picks for the finals to me looking like Panthers and Flames. Be a good final to watch.
JR, I was right there with you on Sam Bennet right from the beginning. I knew if he was given regular ice time that he would be a monster at Center. Wish we would have grabbed him.
Put a group of us in a room and we could absolutely put together a Frankensteins Monster NHL Team. A team that possesses all the elements for success!
Tab I understand your position in E Kane. I saw the small interview with him about skating again after suspension and with the Barracudas. He did not sound like a block head or an Ahole. As a matter of fact he sound contrite and grounded. He stated that these were all off ice problems. Problems that do happen in life. Problems that do not effect on ice performance. I too am a little cautious. Anyone can put a mask on for a 10 minute interview.
I did like B Lemieux before but he is not as talented as Kane and his actions were on ice. He’s a fourth liner. Kane possibly a first liner.
Strome for Kane and Kubalik for DeBrusk I believe helps the team make up. Hate losing Kubalik but we still have DCat as a sniper. Kane at $3.5mil the worse that happens is we can waive and bury in minors.
Make those moves and pick up a player or two of Tim W ‘s deal and we have a more balanced hockey team. Don’t think we can get Horvat since he was just appointed Captain. I’ll take Boeser and Meyers or OEL.
An organization angel to use is, we are giving a player a chance to right himself watch us as an Organization right ourselves……
with that Lemieux for 4th line.
Thank God some on this site aren’t the GM of this team-saying Dach is the next Daze, at 20 is just wrong in so many ways. (and it would take a degree of compassion and introspection to get that)
This team is struggling now for many reasons, too many to fix quickly. This is a longer term challenge and I agree they need the right people to lead.
JR, If it wasn’t for the Beech mess I could see rolling dice on E. Kane but now I would say that Rocky and WOKE Danny will only be allowing the cleanest of clean to come here. Tell you what though, E . Kane is 1 of the very few that constantly went after Ryan Reaves and fought him many times. Also the 1st to defend against cheap hits.
EKane/Boeser Reichel Kane
Boeser/EKane Dach DCat
Hagel TJohnson DeBrusk
Khaira Borgstrom Entwistle/Hardman
$Jones Murphy
Kalynuk Meyers/OEL
McCabe CJones/Mitchell
Lankinen/Soderberg
Hopefully Columbus gets our #1 pick this year. Then we have our #1 for next year and a #1 we get for Fluery. Plus a pipe dream #1 for deHaan. Now we have 3 shots at getting Bedard in the 23 draft.
Please, for the love of God, keep Evander Kane out of your collective minds.
If you saw an interview, that’s nice. The San Jose Sharks players begged management to never put him on the NHL roster again. Do you really think a team with as many issues as the Blackhawks currently have should add a player the Sharks exiled? Really?
I have no idea why anyone would entertain the thought of having E. Kane here. It just boggles the mind. Once again: NFW!!!!
(In Leo Getz voice) ok ok ok ok how about Aston-Reese for Strome.
Move Hagel up to either 1st or 2nd line Boeser on the other Ashton-Reese with TJ and DeBrusk.
TAB, Relax,we just bounce things around. If you disagree that’s fine. Your opinion is noted. You can rest easy. Your talented offensive guy Strome is back in the lineup on the 2nd line and your 0 Goal 8 Assist Center is back as #1 with his pal Kane so your vaunted nuclear option is in effect. Maybe the breakout will be Thursday? Well at least we will win some faceoffs to make things alright.
When building an organization close mindedness and woke will land you at the bottom of a division looking up and praying for future top draft picks to serve as life preservers as your season ticket holders find something else to invest their free time in. I wouldn’t take E.Kane at this point either but the status quo is not going to do.
So the Hawks medical staff has no idea what is going on with Tyler Johnson and he is getting no closer to playing. Please keep Reichel away from here until he has fully recovered.
Brock Boeser,Braden McNab and Ryan Strome are all out there to be had. I would send Vegas Kubalik and Nylander for McNab and a minor league Center. Boeser is at 5.7 Mil per so Kubalik, Nylander, and Strome should do it.
Avalanche catching a beating in Toronto tonight in Mackinnon,s 1st game back from an 8 game injury. Austin Matthew’s with a hat trick. Leafs put up a touchdown with the extra point.
Hey, Gaudette scored a goal. What do you know…..
Wrap, Hey Wrap I won our side bet. Adam Gaudette scores in his 1st game with Ottawa. Somebody send Coach King and Interim Davidson the replay of his goal. Maybe they will know who he is now.
Wrap, I got another side wager for ya. Who will score more goals by the Allstar break? Kamph vs Toews and Dach???? Right now it is 3 to 3!
You forgot to mention that Gaudette was a minus 2 in eight minutes of ice time.
They lost 6-2 . Most were a minus on the night. Baby steps. The guy scores goals. We can get him a couple of defensive wingers now and then. TAB says Plus Minus doesn’t mean anything
Good for Gaudette, hope makes the most of his chance. An rfa with arbitration rights, they did him a favor by giving the opportunity to go somewhere and have the arbitration give some leverage next summer on his next contract. See if takes?advantage of it.
Watching the Ducks game now,this just in Trevor Zegras is pretty good. The Ducks have some real good young players.
TW – good for Gaudette I’m not surprised either although I thought Kub would score last game
The Kampf vs Toews and Dach is funny but in a bad way for us Hawk fans
Toews hasn’t really been close all year –
he had a chance in front on a quick pass from Hagel (I think) but looked like Kampf by redirecting it right into the goalie
Other than that I’m hard pressed to think of a grade A chance he’s had – it’s so sad for him but also dragging the Hawks down
I see that King has rearranged both PP units splitting up 12 and 88 which seems really weird and taking Jones away from Kane – the only rational reason I can think of for this is that King is trying to eventually move 19 off PP1 and this is a transitional step to not hurt Toews’ feelings or cred too much
If that’s not the reason it’s hard to justify not having 12 88 and 4 out there together
I assume with the game on the line and the Hawks on the PP those 3 will be reunited with Hagel and ??!? – my guess is Kubalik
Wrap imagine when it comes down to it, Kane plays with both units. He does already most of the time.
Switching back and forth between late games and I think McDavid and Zegras will pot more points tonight then are centers have In a couple months. The game is so much easier when your top line Centers drive the play. Nice hockey night, have seen McDavid,Zegras,Mattbews,Draisaital ,Tavares,and Crosby look real good tonight. Those are some quality Centers. Mackinnon had an off night or it would have been even better.
If these are Toews last years wondering if we can do him a solid with help from Win. Thinking if we retain $5mill give them a 4th and take Stastney and a 3rd.
Would they give us either one of PLD or Copp or Lowry with their 3rd for Toews at $5mil and our 2nd.
JR, Like Vancouver Winnipeg appears stuck in the mud with their current group. I would think they would be open to do something. Knowing Toews thougjh I don’t think he would waive to do that as it would have the appearances of him giving up. It’s going to be an interesting trade deadline as many of the top Western Conferences teams are struggling with consistency.
@Tim W
Gaudette?
“Wrap, I got another side wager for ya. Who will score more goals by the Allstar break? Kamph vs Toews and Dach???? Right now it is 3 to 3!”
Anyway we could’ve had Zegras who many thought was the most skilled player in the draft in which we got Dach. I feel sorry for Dach who got put in a no win position by Stan. He should’ve stayed in the Juniors for another year before bringing him up to the NHL. Same w/Jokiharju/Boquist/Mitchell. If possible I’d send Dach to the Rock for awhile to see if he can gain back his confidence
Unfortunately Stan set this team back a decade with the moves he made after getting smashed by the Preds. Is Danny boy going to follow that?
Ian – if Kane goes to the Jones Cat Hagel PP unit that’s more like a top unit as least as far as the Hawks go and then Toews is on the unit with Gus Dach et al
This must be their thinking otherwise why have your top 2 goal scorers and your top D man all on a separate unit from Kane
I think they’re looking for ways to quietly get Toews off PP1
If Kane joins the Cat unit for a third period PP in a close game that’ll be telling
Wrap i think balance may be the goal, right now the 2nd pp looks like a minor league unit at times. Borgstrom although no where near Kane’s level, tries to emulate him in that he wants to be the playmaker who is a danger to score, so leaving Kane out in his spot would seem likely. This way having 2 units who can maintain possesion and create scoring opportunities addresses that.
Laughing at some of these proposed trades. If you are parting with a bag of pucks, you are getting someone else’s bag of pucks back. The only players that have value on the trade market are; Hagel, Kane(assuming he waived his NMC), Dcat, Maybe Dach and maybe Jones if a team has room for his salary. Kubalik needs a rebound to be worth anything. Toews, Strome, Nylander, DeHaan and Carpy get you nothing back. If the strategy is to dump salary fine but we aren’t getting Top 6 talent nor high round draft picks for any of the above unless it comes from the first pool of players. I appreciate kicking around options but if the thought is we are going to dump our players in the second pool and recoup a bunch of equity, that is a pipe dream.
Dollar Bill, Good God, Dach would get killed at Rockford as he would be a big target for the AHL Goon Squads. He is going to have to be a slow develop at Center here or move him to a wing at put him with Toews.
$$$Bill – I 2nd the idea of Dach in AHL… boy would be killed there. AHL- is a bunch of wannabe s for the most part… and yes- NHL guys/quicker and can hit as hard or harder… BUT- AHL ers are much less predictable and more likely to make bad/hits due to lack of understanding and control.
Watched TT several times w/ Hogs… People think he was a wimp in NHL… he was way more of a Puss in AHL- for good reason… he understood how unpredictable and wreckless some of those guys were.
Watching TT and HINO in AHL was like watching 9 skaters versus 1… TT/HINO were playing a different game most of their shifts. Dach- doesn’t have the wheels and IQ to stay out of harm…
I still like Dach- but watching him play w/ Kane and NOT give up the puck OR over handle the puck– is TOO frustrating. Brass must be reading this blog and figuring out that Dach does not work w Kane. Looking forward to Dach and 12/Strome
I see that King has finally healthy scratched RJ – he doesn’t have Gaudette to put in there (not that he would anyway) so it’s Josiah Slavin to centre Hardman and Carpenter – hope he shows well and maybe wins a FO or two
Wasn’t this the player/and type of player people here were asking for before. Now that BOS wants to let another good player go we should say yes. Segin Krug Debrusk these are too players that don9t want to stay in BOS for some reason.
See there is worth while to pay your players what they deserve and not low blood them saying it’s better for the team then they leave for nothing per say.
Now that we unloaded the older half of the dynasty core let’s start adding good players back when available.
Let’s tank a few games say lose 5 in a row at some point in next 15 games so we can stay near the teams at -11 -11 -10 and get an elite top 6 fw in draft. Then have 77 at wing.